pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) (11/20/86)
In article <16@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu> mnr@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Marc Ringuette) writes: >The standard line is this: > The Universe is expanding. It isn't just that galaxies are moving > away from each other, but rather the fabric of the Universe is > expanding. >In what way does it make sense to say the entire Universe is expanding? >One must have something to measure against. > > 1. Assume the speed of light, gravitational constant, etc. are constant. > Then if it takes longer for light to reach you, gravity has less > effect, etc., then the universe is expanding. I think it's that the more distant objects are "redder shifted" indicating that they have a higher receding velocity. Assuming that every thing was born at the same point in space and time, then it is reasonable to assume that the stuff with the fastest receding velocity would have traveled for as long a time as everything else and therefore it would be farther away. >This seems plausible, but I see two alternatives which should be >indistinguishable: > > 2. Assume the Universe isn't expanding, but the speed of light, > gravitational constant [are changing.. .. ] > > 3. Assume the Universe isn't expanding, the speed of light and the > gravitational constant are constant, but that time is speeding > up Time is a "dumb" word in English, because it is forced to convey a number of quite different meanings. German for example, is nicer in this respect, and therefore it's easier to think about it. (Ask Al Einstein) In (3) above "time speeding up" probably means the "framing rate" is increasing. To see this, imagine that the universe is created by "billiyuns and .." of synced "3d" movie projectors that can "holographically" replay everything. What we would have is a sort of "time quantized" version of reality on tape. Then the play back could be "run at different framing rates". Incidentally, some do think reality is time quantized, but it's probably on optical disk. :-) Now the problem with 2 and 3 is that they are coupled by "physics" law. Ole Al invented a General to do just that. Ahh! life was so simple before AE. That means that the kind of thing your suggesting in (2/3) is already a part of reality and should be considered in when doing (1). But, (1) is a "snap shot" now, and even if we look as far back as we can, things weren't so much different in density than they are now, so.. it wouldn't say too much about changing "today's picture". However, if we go really far back it's a different story, we have to guess. The other problem is that "forces" may have been different. There are more ideas yet to come. More follows one that, in just a moment but first: WARNING: Physics Fundamentalists STOP HERE!!!!! Not responsible for skull cracking and other evidence of brain generated steam! -------------------- Sanity stops here ----------------- Eyes do not cross this gap -------------------- Begin sci.bizzare ----------------- Even now, there are these funny weirdo "QSO", quasars, and the like that we see when we look way back in time. My guess is that "information and its operators" are really what fields and particles are all about. If that's true then there is no reason to believe that "substance" can't have an analog existence in a hypercompressed form in other more primitive spaces. I speculate that what happened was a vortex of some of this stuff in two space, exceeded some kind of stability limit, and "boomba"; a blob of it shattered and injected into a void 3-space clamping time and dissociating to "our physics". Curiously, a myriad of "pieces" of the 2 space fabric from the "shattered" blob managed to remain partially intact. Somehow QSO's are these remnants, the transitions between those two space states. So in some state they are sort of micro meta-stable piece of the big bang. (If you can refer to something that powerful as a quasar as being "micro" - eat your heart out Motorola) One of the features of this idea is that there is a limit as to how much "information" mass-energy-momentum you can pack into a cube of 4-space. When that is exceeded then the space starts to "leak" information. (It happens all the time at the White House). It leaks back into the "still attached" piece of primitive space or two space. Then as hyper-matter, it spreads out going to a suitably low density out toward the "frayed edges" of the piece. This hypermatter continuously becomes re- 3 dimensionalized and condenses back" into three space matter over a disk region. This matter is still not free of the local gravity centroid so it acts to feed stars and begins to form a more familiar object. Thus QSO down converts to ordinary galactic systems. Gradually, the cores of these "black holes" will all drain away, and the "galaxy" a kind of "information storm" or low pressure system, itself, will subside. Still the process will go on for perhaps a hundred gigayear. Hey guys, my guardian angel has to exist some where, right? >Is there any evidence which proves 1 over 2 or 3? If your coronary has subsided, it's a moot question. Don't you sometimes wish you too could "REM" in full consciousness Star Hopping? Use PLASMAK(TM) fusion propulsion engines! Hey big fella need any big ideas? (C)1986 Paul M. 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