[sci.space] Pop-top SRB's

Gooding.WBST@XEROX.COM (10/14/86)

   Consider the following scenario: A significant malfunction is
detected during the early part of an STS mission following lift-off.
The appropriate designated individual in mission control orders an
abort.  This order pops the tops of the SRB's off and away from the
orbiter.  Reverse thrust nozzles are now exposed and the SRB's top ends
are ignited.  The thrust of the already burning ends are effectively
countered allowing the orbiter to detach before the SRB's buckle and
submit to a destruct order along with the ET.  The orbiter makes a best
effort emergency landing based on speed, altitude, etc.  
   Is this a viable method in which to minimize the risks of STS
missions encountered from lift-off to SRB burnout?  

Steve <Gooding.WBST@Xerox.COM>

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dsmith@hplabsc.UUCP (David Smith) (10/16/86)

> This [abort] order pops the tops of the SRB's off and away from the
> orbiter.  Reverse thrust nozzles are now exposed and the SRB's top ends
> are ignited.  The thrust of the already burning ends are effectively
> countered allowing the orbiter to detach before the SRB's buckle and
> submit to a destruct order along with the ET.

Based on what AW&ST said about the IUS/TDRSS failure (to the effect that
continued chamber pressure is necessary to support combustion), maybe
blowing the top off would extinguish the fire.  Note that the SRB is
hollow and burns from the inside out along its whole length.

But if blowing the cap doesn't extinguish the motor, I doubt it would help.
If the orbiter lets go, it will pivot around the rear attachment points
and break up, as previously noted in this forum.  If the SRBs are
jettisoned, the orbiter and tank must fly through the plume.  If nothing
is cut loose, the front-end exhaust from the SRBs will impinge on the
oxygen tank.

			David Smith

henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (10/16/86)

> ... maybe
> blowing the top off would extinguish the fire.  Note that the SRB is
> hollow and burns from the inside out along its whole length.  But if
> blowing the cap doesn't extinguish the motor, I doubt it would help...

This may have been what NASA had in mind when they studied thrust-termination
systems for the SRBs early in the shuttle development process.  I don't have
details.  Their conclusion, according to the Rogers Commission report, was
that it could be done.  The problem is not shutting down the SRBs; the
problem is that doing so in any straightforward way involves violent
deceleration that the orbiter and external tank would not survive unless
greatly strengthened.  The strengthening cuts the payload to roughly zero.
-- 
				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
				{allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry

john@chinet.UUCP (John Mundt) (10/17/86)

One of the biggest problems early in flight is having enough
of a velocity to make it back to the runway.  If I understand
you correctly, the reverse thrusters would slow things down
before the orbiter detached.  No profit in that.  If the SRB's
could be "pop-topped" the orbiter could then shut down the main
engines and release from the ET while still maintaining as much
velocity as possible.