[net.sf-lovers] STIII: Excelsior

AMARTIN%DEC-MARLBORO@sri-unix.UUCP (06/29/84)

From:  Alan H. Martin <AMARTIN at DEC-MARLBORO>

There seems to be a dearth of good World Almanacs on the net.  The
nickname for New York State is "The Empire State".  Or did King Kong
climb the Excelsior State Building?  The state motto is traditionally
defined as "Ever upward".

The four other Constitution Class MK-IX heavy cruisers involved in the
war games in "The Ultimate Computer" were named Excalibur, Lexington,
Potemkin and Hood.  The name Excelsior - NCC-1718 was reserved for use
on a Bonhomme Richard Class MK-IXA heavy cruiser whose construction
was authorized by the Star Fleet appropriation of stardate 3220.  This
could not be the Excelsior of ST/III, because the registration of the
ship in the movie was NX-200 (or -2000).

The logical ship to have written in to the script to chase the
Enterprise would be the first MK-X dreadnought scheduled to be built -
the Federation - NCC-2100.  The word that describes a dreadnought is
"more".  It has one more warp engine, mounted on a short pylon rising
up out of the back of the primary hull.  It can go two warp factors
faster - cruising at warp 8 and bursts of warp 10.  It can go for two
more years (20) without stopping for refueling and resupply.  (New
York Star Trek fans know that the important replenishment stops are
not Star Bases, but White Castle hamburger joints.)

It has one more dish antenna, at the rear of the secondary hull (the
shuttlecraft bay is at the front).  It has two more phaser banks (they
are also on the secondary hull).  It is like the Enterprise, only it
can sense more life forms, kill more life forms and ferry more
ambassadors to apologize for it all.  Maybe the first time they built
one and turned it on it sucked itself into a self-made black hold.  Or
whipped around in circles (since Federation designers have never
learned how to make the engines on these crates so that the axis of
thrust points through the center of gravity).

The dreadnoughts were real hot-rods, that is why Scotty didn't like
the Excelsior.

Alan Martin			/AHM	(AMARTIN@DEC-MARLBORO)
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milne%uci-750a@sri-unix.UUCP (07/04/84)

From:  Alastair Milne <milne@uci-750a>


   There seems to be a dearth of good dictionaries on the net.  "Excelsior"
is Latin, meaning "higher".  The Oxford at least will give you exactly 
the derivation.  I hardly think New York calls itself the Excelsior State 
because of its overwhelming lumber industry.

   Besides, if you research naval history, I think you'll find at least 
one or two notable ships named Excelsior, just as you'll find Exeter and 
Enterprise.  Furthermore, didn't the episode called The Ultimate Computer
have a sister ship of the Enterprise called Excelsior, in the war games?
Couldn't swear to it -- I don't remember it that clearly -- but I 
thought it did.

				Alastair Milne

milne%uci-750a@sri-unix.UUCP (07/10/84)

From:  Alastair Milne <milne@uci-750a>


    Several people have pointed out that New York is the Empire State; 
perhaps "Excelsior" is merely on the seal.  I have the Oxford Universal 
Dictionary's word for it that it's in there somewhere.  (Though "Excelsior 
State Building" does have rather a ring to it, no?)

    However, the point was not geography, but the naming of a ship, for 
which "Excelsior", in its Latin meaning, seems quite appropriate.

    Although I'm glad people are alert to inaccuracies, I hope that this is 
the last I will ever see on this subject.  If anything was ever done to death,
this has been.

    On a subject I prefer: does anybody know why this new warp effect has been
used in the last two movies (the one in which the ship simply accelerates, and
leaves behind a trial of multihued images of itself)?  I thought the 
star-streaking effect of the first movie much more effective, and rather more
likely (as far as any of this can be called "likely").  It certainly gave a
better impression of the sort of speeds the ship would attain with warp
drive.

				A. Milne