[net.sf-lovers] Constructed as in BUILT, guys...

duntemann.wbst@XEROX.ARPA (07/03/84)

No, no!  You got it wrong!  When I spoke of "constructed
worlds" I meant more than just "built systematically in the head
of a writer."  I meant a planet or planet-sized thingie which was
put together out of whole cloth or reworked wholesale (a la
Riverworld) for some purpose.  L5 tincan worlds like Rosinante and
Bova's Colony are small change.  I mean BIIIIG.  Ringworld.  Cuckoo.
Riverworld.  Gaea.  Artifacts or complete crustal
reconstructions.  Did I miss any?

And Tom Godwin is, of course, famous for "The Cold Equations," a story
I never bought anyway.  It's been 20 years since I read it, but it
seems as though they could have unbolted a chair and thrown in out
the door instead of the girl.  What we in the trade call "idiot plot."

There was a Hal Clement story I didn't see on that list:
"Seasoning," which was part of a rather silly series of "shared world"
stories surrounding a planet which Harlan Ellison designed (not
built.)  It was in IASFM about four years ago, and involved baloon
creatures and a supercomputer named Black Diamond (chummily
referred to as "Beedee.")  Definitely minor Clement, but if you're a
completist...

By the way, did that anthology (called MEDEA: Harlan's World) ever
hit print?  None of the stories fit in with any of the others; some
made the baloon things intelligent and some did not; one writer
gave them the ability to move about at will like dirigibles without
saying how; stuff like that.  A mess, like most anything Harlan gets
his fingers into.

Illigitimati non carborundum, you latin hacks--

--Jeff Duntemann

The Carbon Filament Rat

duntemann.wbst@xerox

cas@cvl.UUCP (Cliff Shaffer) (07/13/84)

Farmer did another series of 5 (short) books, collectivly called
"The Tierworld Series" (or some slight variant on that).  Worlds in this
universe are quite definately constructed.  It is a little like
Riverworld, but not so pretentious.  I think they are the best books
he has done (but then, I don't care much for most of Farmer's work).

There is, of course, The Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy...

		Cliff Shaffer
		...!rlgvax!cvl!cas

kcarroll@utzoo.UUCP (Kieran A. Carroll) (07/19/84)

*
Then of course, there's always Zelazny's series of universes,
as expounded in the Nine Princes in Amber series. As I recall,
these universes were constructed, although I won't say
by whom, as that'd be a SPOILER.
-Kieran A. Carroll
...decvax!utzoo!kcarroll

mwm@ea.UUCP (07/19/84)

#R:sri-arpa:-154200:ea:11700019:000:860
ea!mwm    Jul 18 17:02:00 1984

He wants built worlds, let's give him a few:

The largest built world story (the world is big, not the story) is Terry
Pratchett's "Strata". It makes Farmer's _World of Tiers_ books (previously
mentioned on the net) look small time.

************** MILD SPOILER ****************


In "Strata", we have

	1) A race that creates Hydrogen out of ????.
	2) A race that creates stars out of free Hydrogen.
	3) A race that builds worlds around world-less stars.
	4) A race that lays down crusts on worlds (with "strata machines",
		of course).
	5) (The biggy) A race that builds universes, complete with
		evidence that 1-4 exist.

The only world we get to see in any detail is a *flat* world (Pratchett
likes those - his first novel dealt with one, too) that looks like the
medieval version of earth, complete with angels, devils (or deveels :-) and
magic.

	<mike