[net.music] Great Guitarists

stuart@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stuart Lewis) (04/06/84)

As far as great guitarists go, the absolute best (!!please now, this is only
my personal opinion - no flames!!), my vote goes to Dickey Betts of the Allman
Brothers.  Who can forget his firey solos on "Ramblin' Man" or the tearful
wails on "Melissa".  If you've ever heard or seem him live you might agree
with me - very controlled and steady performer.  For the ABSOLUTE pinnacle
of any guitar passage/solo by ANYONE in my opinion (*note: opinion),  
it's got to be his work on "Jessica".

Ranking right up there I'd have to include Chuck Berry, Bo Diddly and the nu-
mber one deciple of his, George Thoroughgood.  As far as breakthrough pioneer,
Jimi Hendrix.

				Stuart Lewis
				ssc-vax!stuart
		

hxe@rayssd.UUCP (04/18/84)

Great Guitarists?  Why, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Roy Buchanon, of course!
But don't forget John McLaughlin and Carlos Santana, especially together.

Heather Emanuel {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccieng5} rayssd!hxe

dmf@whuxi.UUCP (FLANAGAN) (08/15/84)

My roommate and I were discussing the alltime GREAT guitarists.

Several names and bands came up; our BARE list consists of:

 Dire Straits - Mark "Knopfler" or however you spell his name

 Pete Townsend

 Ronnie Lane

 Jeff Beck

 Eric Clapton

 Andy Summers



We did not feel need to include Eddie Van Halen; since we think he's
over rated.

Any additions?  Post to net.

etan@tellab1.UUCP (Nate Stelton) (08/16/84)

Great guitarists of all time? Everyone sees it differently. Here's how I
see it:

All-time greats--

  Andre Segovia                    Carlos Montoya
  Django Reinhardt                 Pat Metheny
  John McLaughlin                  Allan Holdsworth

Nominees that almost made it--

  Charlie Christian                Barney Kessel
  John Williams                    Steve Morse
  Les Paul                         Jimi Hendrix
  George Benson                    Tal Farlow
  Ralph Towner                     

I'm talkin' 'bout names that will be remembered for many years to come.
I probably forgot one or two that I wanted to include.

                                 -etan

bill@apl-uw.UUCP (Bill Hanot) (08/16/84)

I'll throw these in for consideration...

Jerry Garcia

Al DiMeola

John McLaughlin

Jimi Hendrix

I give points for originality as well as technique...

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sean@zinfandel.UUCP (Sean Gilligan) (08/17/84)

[Just in case...]
Nobody has mentioned Ronnie Montrose yet, so I will.
Has anybody heard him LATELY?!

gtaylor@lasspvax.UUCP (Greg Taylor) (08/18/84)

Since I just turned 30, I guess I must be an old fart already. This posting
is not an attempt to mention my favorite, but rather to reiterate a point that
comes up nearly every 6 months or so (every time a bunch of new folks get on
the net, maybe). This sort of cheerleading by list is a real waste of time,
and we've gotta sit through it with nearly every instrument every time someone
starts it. If we've got to sit around talking about "who's the best" (note that
I find this sort of chatter equally offensive in net.classical....maybe even
*more* so there, since the tendency to elitism is occaisionally a bit higher
-just a *feeling* mind you ;-) ), let's at least try it as if we're tryng to
introduce someone who doesn't know the person's work at all. Give some 
examples or pointers (to an array of albums) for the people who *might* be
really interested in the question. The other kind of name dropping is just
a bunch of wank.

Flame off.

Now, let's try an interesting question. Anyone want to try talking about
the "unsung genius of the thrash guitar?" I've oftern wondered why thrash
guitarists don't use those cheapie Univox guitar synthesizers. THey do the
nicest job of laying down the buzz of doom (though perhaps not intentionally)
of any device I ever heard. Does the good thrasher sneer at the synthesizer
in general principle?

Okay: catharsis and questions. That's about the best I can do. Your turn.
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hunt@pyuxo.UUCP (J Hunter) (08/20/84)

[Yummmmm..........................Yummmm..............................]


Here's my nomination for GREAT guitarists (I found that I had to
categorize them):

CLASSICAL:  Andres Segovia

HEAD-BANGERS:  Eddie Van Halen

FOLK-SOFTER ROCK:  Paul Simon, Stephen Stills

COUNTRY:  Roy Clark, Glen Campbell

SOUTHERN ROCK:  Dickie Betts

ROCK'N'ROLL:  Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck

JAZZ:  Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass

BLUES:  Matt "Guitar" Murphy, B. B. King, John Lee Hooker

This was definitely tough....It'll be interesting to see what the
NET comes up with....

..."I'm wasted and I can't find my way home...."

Ace 

pyuxo!hunt

marantz@null.DEC (Josh HL01-1/S07 DTN 225-4835) (08/20/84)

In addition to the ones you mentioned, I would consider the following
guitarists to be great.  In no particular order, and with no attempt
at completeness:

Steve Howe
Robert Fripp
Steve Morse
BB King		(I just got back from the Newport Jazz festival)
Pat Metheny
Jimi Hendrix
Phil Manzanara

				-Joshua D. Marantz


Mon 20-Aug-1984 09:26 EST

elf@utcsrgv.UUCP (Eugene Fiume) (08/21/84)

Enough already.  If you're going to rave about a guitarist, talk about
specific and novel contributions that aren't well known.
An example follows.


Eugene Fiume
U of Toronto

jdb@qubix.UUCP (Jeff Bulf) (08/22/84)

Jorma Kaukonen

Jerry Garcia

(the late) Reverend Gary Davis

(controversial) John Cippolina


"His mind remains un-bended; he has to die"
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	Dr Memory
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andrew@inmet.UUCP (08/22/84)

#R:whuxi:-9500:inmet:6600200:000:292
inmet!andrew    Aug 20 11:52:00 1984

Ronnie Lane plays bass, not guitar.  (In his present condition, he probably
doesn't play much of anything.)

How could you forget Jimi Hendrix?  I haven't forgotten him... matter of
fact, I postponed my wedding by a week so it wouldn't fall on the anniversary
of his death!

Andrew W. Rogers

jmd@aluxe.UUCP (Joseph M. Dakes, AT&T Bell Labs, Reading, Pa.) (08/24/84)

Add Frank Marino (Mahogany Rush) to the list.


				Joe Dakes

Set the music free..

rkp@drutx.UUCP (Pierce) (08/24/84)

>Ronnie Lane plays bass, not guitar.  (In his present condition,
>he probably doesn't play much of anything.)

>Andrew W. Rogers

BOOOOOO!HISSSSSSS!

That was in really poor taste!

--
   Russell Pierce
   AT&T Consumer Products
   Denver, Colorado
   ...!drutx!rkp

boyajian@akov68.DEC (Jerry Boyajian) (08/27/84)

Didn't we play this game just a few months ago? OK, here we go again. Top flight
guitarists, in my opinion, are:

Andres Segovia, Carlos Montoya, John McLaughlin, Carlos Santana, Guy Van Duser,
Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Alvin Lee, Mike Bloomfield,
Les Paul, Brian May, Eddie Van Halen, Brad Gillis [listen to him on the live
Ozzy Osbourne album, rather than his Night Ranger stuff], Steve Stevens, Freddy
King, Neil Geraldo, Mark Knopfler, Danny Carnahan. There are probably other that
I've forgotten for the moment.

However, *the* absolute *best* guitarist around today is Stevie Ray Vaughan. I
have heard this guy in concert twice this year. He sounded, in all seriousness,
like he was Jimi Hendrix come back from the dead. He even played "Third Stone
from the Sun" *better* than Hendrix did! The man is phe-NOM-enal. Even if you
play his albums twice a day for the rest of your life, you haven't really heard
him until you've gone to one of his concerts.

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Maynard, MA)

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bllklly@uwmacc.UUCP (08/31/84)

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A great guitarist not mentioned so far:
Bill Nelson:  Formerly of BeBop Deluxe, a rock(?) band that got lots of good
	      reviews, but never really caught on.  He's very fast (when
	      he wants to be) and fluid, a very lyrical rock sound.
	      Sunburst Finish is probably the best BeBop Deluxe record as
	      far as his guitar playing.  (The album title refers to the
	      red/yellow guitar stain, of course, and as a visual pun,
	      the guitar on the album cover has burst into flame.)
	      It includes a lot of great songs, including Fair Exchange, the
	      only BBD song I've heard on the radio more than once.
	      Drastic Plastic is another good album, but with much less
	      guitar.  Nelson is now doing solo work, but don't buy his
	      solo albums expecting to hear his incredible guitar--they're
	      almost entirely keyboards.  Sigh.
-- 

Bill Kelly
{allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!bllklly
1210 West Dayton St/U Wisconsin Madison/Mad WI 53706

steven@ism70.UUCP (09/06/84)

He of the $100.00 guitar sound:

David Lindley

muller@inmet.UUCP (09/06/84)

**
Hey, what about Norman Blake or Tony Rice (or the late Clarence White - a
great acoustic player too, y'know)?

rob@ctvax.UUCP (09/18/84)

#R:ism70:-4200:ctvax:39000030:000:1080
ctvax!rob    Sep 18 09:34:00 1984

Re: Chet Atkins.

For a real treat of two old fogies who can still blow the socks
off Def Priest, Quiet Leppard, Motley Riot, Judas Crue etc,
try the "Chester and Lester" album featuring Chet Atkins and Les Paul.
I wonder how many of the "Modern Masters of Metal" who have played a
Gibson Les Paul guitar, have actually listened to Les play.

A couple of other examples of Atkins' work are the sixties' single
"Boo Boo Stick Beat" which sounds like one of the first examples
of a wah-wah or a volume pedal or somesuch effect. Another album
to find is one called something like Chet Atkins' Workshop.
I recall that's the one where he wired the fingers of his left 
hand to provide a bass effect from the vibrations picked up by his
left hand!

I remember one Prairie Home Companion where Atkins announced he was
going to play a punk-rock song. Laughter ensued and then he played a
beautiful rendition of the Blondie song "Heart of Glass". His comment
afterwards was that one can find good melodies anywhere.

And he doesn't bite the heads off bats!

Rob Spray
...convex!ctvax!rob

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (09/20/84)

Without Les Paul, we wouldn't have the electric guitar as we know it
today (some may seek to go back in time and alter history for this
alone! :-), we wouldn't have multi-track recording (he virtually
invented the notion of multitrack recording and overdubbing),
and I think he also developed a number of sound processing techniques
(like tape echo and, I think, tape flanging).  Modern music owes this
man a debt that approaches unpayability.

He once gave a seminar in London to which he invited rock guitarists.
The only one who showed up was Steve Howe.  His work is greatly
underappreciated.

He used to have his whole house wired for sound.  His wife, the singer
Mary Ford, would often sing all the parts (overdubbed, of course).
In fact, there were microphones in so many places that she could put
on a pair of headphones and sing into a microphone while he engineered
the recording in the basement and she washed the dishes in the kitchen.

When his elbow joint was shattered in an automobile accident, he insisted
that if the doctors had to set his arm permanently in one position, it
should be slanted in just the right position for him to play the guitar.
His arm is still set that way.

Enough trivia.  If you find one of the Les Paul's greatest hits type
albums floating around in budget bins, pick it up, and check out the
overdubbed vocal harmonies and unusual guitar sounds on "How High the Moon",
and "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles", and remember this was over thirty years
ago.  It still stands up.
-- 
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?			Rich Rosen
WHAT IS YOUR NET ADDRESS?		pyuxn!rlr
WHAT IS THE CAPITAL OF ASSYRIA?		I don't know that ...  ARGHHHHHHHH!

strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) (09/21/84)

Does Link Wray fit into this category?