RTaylor@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA (08/04/84)
From: " Roz " <RTaylor@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA> For what it's worth: In recent history (last 10 years or so), general officers (U.S. Army sticks in my mind) who ***spoke*** out against the administration were not court martialed (of course, they hadn't stolen anything quite so valuable as a starship). These poor (?) fellows spoke their minds and opinions which happened to be countrary to government (stated) policy. Normally, what happens is he is offered a new assignment which is drastically below his current assignment, in prestige, responsibility, etc. (For example, a 2-star general might be offerred a 1-star's job...not good!) Normally, the erring officer then exercises his option to retire rather than accept the "down-grade" assignment. In worse offenses (like speaking your mind and saying the President was wrong, but not treason, murder, etc), the service has been known to give the officer the option: you may retire, or you may have a court martial...the option is only given when the service is concerned about the image of its officer corps or its own image. Because discipline is so very important during war, the Services have to demand discipline during non-wartime to ensure it is available when needed. This leads to a variety of responses to non-capital offenses during peace time, from verbal reprimands to courts martial...lest we forget, capital punishment is still a viable punishment for a court to award...although there are regulations saying which offenses can use capital punishment. (It has been a long time since anyone was executed for it, but rape is still punishible by death under court martial regulations!) Although the public may not know or realize it, most officers in any branch of US Service (and probably the enlisted personnel even better) can read between the lines and see the disciplinary action in most cases (which are publicized). And, for that reason the military community understands or knows what is going on, even if the general public doesn't. For example, several years ago an Army general in Hawaii came out on at least two occasions and said in polite politicalese that the President's policy in a particular area was wrong...the first time he made a public apology...30 days after the last one he announced his retirement! Sorry about the lesson on military justice...the bottom line is, that I feel Starfleet would consider the above and come out with something like the following; probably playing on Kirk's "officership": "For the good of the corps, discipline must be maintained!" I think a court martial would be required for Admiral Kirk, unless he were a hero in the public's eye. In that case, he would be offerred his choice of retirement or some very obscure underling job somewhere....[and once you've tasted power it is hard to go without it!] Flames and discussions on this topic can and should be addressed to me at my EMAIL address: rtaylor at radc-multics Roz
ayers@convex.UUCP (08/14/84)
#R:sri-arpa:-74000:convex:42100006:000:196 convex!ayers Aug 14 14:47:00 1984 Or how about the old standby that saves face for all: We are announcing that Kirk and crew were on secret mission all along. or didn't you see the FIRST cloaking device story????? blues, II