[sci.space] Extraterrestial Intelligence: the one from Michael Rivero

S46@DHDURZ1.BITNET (GUNNAR RADONS) (06/19/91)

To Michael Rivero and all who are interested;
 
I am sorry that I had not the time to grab the part of your reply to the
Extraterrestial intelligence discussion, since I just received in and I'm in
a hurry. But I have to reply to your saddly very wrong reply on metallicity.
 
1) Low metallicity means lower metallicity than the sun. The default value
   for the solar metallicity (anything beyond Helium4) is 0.02. That means
   only two percent of the sun exsist of elements heavier than H, and He and
   their isotopes.
2) Sun and the solar planets are born from the same molcule cloud, which itself
   seemed to have been enriched by a supernova. This relates back to element
   abundance measurements from meteorites.
3) Now one topic where I am very shure about (the other two were guesses from
   the literature and my memory).
      We see many more population I stars around us then population II stars.
   This is due to the fact, that it is very difficult to determine whther an
   M-dwarf is from poulation I (and therefore young) or from population II
   (old). Futher, most tstas we see in the solar vicinity are K and 1-Dwarfs.
   You may wnat to check the Gliese-Catalogue of nearby stars for proof.
4) The space density of stars along the z- axis (perpendicular to the galactic
   plane) is more or less gaussian (even if you beleave in the isothermal models
   of Cam, Schwarzschild etc., the conclusions won't change).
   This distribution is the same for young and old stars, since it is governed
   by the global potential of the galactic disk. The stars make oszillations
   perpendicular to the galactic disk. Therefore they are constantly
   accelerated when they run toward the disk, they swing across,  and get
   decelerated again. But this time it swings further out, since the mass in
   the galactic disk had changed. The idea is that the gas from the galactic
   halo permantently rains into the galaxy (I think this is even observed)
   and slowly raises the mass inside the galactic disk, deepening the potential
   well.
   Therefore: Even stars with metallicity less than 0.00001 have lots of
   heavy metals (in kilograms), but their relative amount is small. Whether
   there is a planet allowing live depends on how old the star is, how the
   accretiaon of dust and grains to protoplanets works, how much mass the
   planet has, how and whether their will be hight emeperature core,
   water, or other solvents.....
 
I am sorry that this got that long...
Gunnar Radons, s46@dhdurz1.bitnet