[misc.kids] Why the Mac is better for kids, too.

norman@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Donald A Norman-UCSD Cog Sci Dept) (08/01/89)

In article <2274@wasatch.utah.edu> cetron@wasatch.utah.edu (Edward J
Cetron) writes:

:I love my Mac, and I realize how great the user interface is, etc,
:	...
:BUT, I want to use it about 50% of the time for my 7-year old to learn with.
:	...
:SO:  my request for the net is:  Is it worth keeping the Mac?


I respond:  keep the Mac.

The same features that make you love the interface are equally
important for kids.  I bought a Mac SE/30 for my family.  With 5
Mbytes of RAM and 40 Mbytes of hard disk.  It's more powerful than the
Mac II I use for myself (except for  screen size).  Why?  Because I
want their computer experience to be without hassle.  They can load up
multiple applications at the same time.  They can store things freely.
Professionals understand computer discipline and cleaning up
files: they don't and shouldn't need to.  (I did teach them how to
back up.)

Software?  There isn't much "educational" software out there, but in
my opinion, the two greatest educational software packages around are
MacWrite and MacPaint.

My son is now 9, but he  started writing school essays using MacWrite
when he was 7.  He writes letters to friends and he has started
writing stories.   Now that MacWrite has a spelling checker, that is
also an educational tool: he learns a lot about spelling by using the
spelling checker.   And MacPaint is used to put in the illustrations,
of course.

One of my colleagues has developed a wonderful set of excercises for
kids in Hypercard.  Example: there is an invisible button -- the goal
is to find it with a mouse click.  The neat thing is that the kids can
learn to move the button themselves, or to make it visible, or
invisible, or covered with different graphics.  And they can change
what happens when the mouse click misses the button.  Play music, say
things, or what have you.  The amount of Hypercard programming you
need to know is very little -- the kids have no trouble with it.

I haven't done it yet, but I am thinking of getting some talking
faces using the Bright Stars software: Kids do like to write stories
and then have the Mac say them aloud.  They end up writing plays,
with multiple plots and characters.

As for educational software?  My son does like "Where in the world is
Carmen San Diego."  It comes with an Atlas which is helpful.  Probably
a 7 year old isn't ready yet.   And get a good typing program.  We
use Mavis Beacon Typing, which is OK but too smart for its own good
(no, I have no better recommendation).

And for games - By a Nintendo set.  It is easier to use, with better
games and cheaper.  Making an Apple look like a Nintendo is silly: We
had the same games on both an Apple IIGS and Nintendo, and the GS
never got used.  In fact, I (we -- the whole family) hated the GS so
much we got rid of it and bought the SE instead.  Comparing the Apple
II to the Nintendo for games showed how deficient the Apple II was for
those things, and comparing the Apple II to the Mac for word
processing and picture drawing showed how deficient it was for real
applications.  My family ended up using my Mac II for homework, and
letters to friends, and stories, and party invitations: I had to buy
them the Mac SE/30 so they would let me use my own machine.

  The only thing I got out of that experience was material for a paper
  on why specialized devices like Nintendo will outdo general purpose
  devices like the Apple II.  It's in an Apple-sponsored book too:
     Norman, D. A. (in press, 1990).  Why the interface doesn't work.  In
     B. Laurel (Ed.), The art of human-computer interface design.  Reading,
     MA: Addison-Wesley.

Conclusion:
In other words, be creative.  The best educational software is
innovative and educational use of tools.  Which you can do yourself,
with more fun.  And these tools then translate readily into useful
skills for school and home.

don norman

Disclaimer: I make up my own mind, but Apple does give my research
group money and it employs me as a consultant in their Advanced
Technology Group.



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