anand@utastro.UUCP (Anand Sivaramakrishnan) (10/28/86)
bl@hplabsb.UUCP (Bruce T. Lowerre) writes: > Summary: How does one test for it? > > How do you know it's silver and not gold, platinum, iron, or sodium? > Why the 3rd chackra? Couldn't it be one of the other 12? In reply... it is easy to tell that it must be silver because of the sudden reversal of the biomagnetic field when the cord is cut. The silver cord is the only one that is wound in such a fashion as to generate an external, measurable field. > How does one test for the cord? It would be boon to modern medicine to > detect the presence of the "silver cord" rather than depending on > electrocardiagrams to determine absolute death. Actually, with sensitive enough instruments (liquid helium cooled, to cut down noise) one can detect the same information in the biomagnetic field as is present in an electrocardiogram. But one must solve the inverse scattering problem in order to decrypt the data. One of the secrets of the mystery of existence (known to only a few select swamis) is that most fundamental phenomena in the known Universe are understandable only in terms of either Maxwell's equations or plumbing (and, at high enough temperatures, both, as in the case of astrophysical plasmas).
zdenek@heathcliff.columbia.edu (Zdenek Radouch) (10/29/86)
In article <1366@utastro.UUCP> anand@utastro.UUCP writes: >> How does one test for the cord? It would be boon to modern medicine to >> detect the presence of the "silver cord" rather than depending on >> electrocardiagrams to determine absolute death. > >Actually, with sensitive enough instruments (liquid helium cooled, to cut >down noise) one can detect the same information in the biomagnetic field as >is present in an electrocardiogram. But one must solve the inverse scattering >problem in order to decrypt the data... There is a practical reason for preferring EKG. In order to sufficiently eliminate the noise in this method, the body under investigation has to be liquid helium cooled, too. Such low temperatures have been known to cause problems in laboratory animals. zdenek ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Men are four: He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him; He who knows and knows not that he knows, he is asleep - wake him; He who knows not and knows that he knows not, he is simple - teach him; He who knows not and knows not that he knows not, he is a fool - shun him! zdenek@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU or ...!seismo!columbia!cs!zdenek Zdenek Radouch, 457 Computer Science, Columbia University, 500 West 120th St., New York, NY 10027
cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) (11/02/86)
In article <1366@utastro.UUCP> anand@utastro.UUCP (Anand Sivaramakrishnan) writes: > >> How do you know it's silver and not gold, platinum, iron, or sodium? >> Why the 3rd chackra? Couldn't it be one of the other 12? > >In reply... it is easy to tell that it must be silver because of the sudden >reversal of the biomagnetic field when the cord is cut. The silver cord is >the only one that is wound in such a fashion as to generate an external, >measurable field. > >> How does one test for the cord? It would be boon to modern medicine to >> detect the presence of the "silver cord" rather than depending on >> electrocardiagrams to determine absolute death. > >Actually, with sensitive enough instruments (liquid helium cooled, to cut >down noise) one can detect the same information in the biomagnetic field as >is present in an electrocardiogram. But one must solve the inverse scattering >problem in order to decrypt the data. One of the secrets of >the mystery of existence (known to only a few select swamis) is that most >fundamental phenomena in the known Universe are understandable only >in terms of either Maxwell's equations or plumbing (and, at high enough >temperatures, both, as in the case of astrophysical plasmas). Ok, I'll bite.....should this have had :-)'s??????? I've spent 8 years working in Biomedical Engineering - I've got a BS in Chemistry (with emphasis on instrumentation systems), MS in Bioengineering and am 2 months from a PhD in Bioengineering (not to mention the hands on works as a CPR instructor trainer, Adv. First Aid instructor, EMT instructor ...ad nauseum...) - any way IF there IS a 'biomagnetic field' (which I will not argue one way or another) there will be a LOT more noise from EMG's and EKG's than from background magnetic fields.....Last I was aware, mag field sensors weren't really so great around very very small field strengths (and given the large number of currents in the body -> large numbers of small fields, I doubt the field strength EXCEPT AS A LUMPED PARAMETER would even be measurable....) And while my interpretations of Murphy's laws: 1. Mother Nature is a bitch 2. Life is a bitch, and then you die 3. Any experiment designed to understand anything will invariably be as if flushed down a toilet (not the plumbing reference) I simply can't agree that Maxwell's laws and plumbing alone will solve all the mysteries of the universe...... -ed cetron Center for Biomedical Design Univ of Utah......
ccplumb@watnot.UUCP (Colin Plumb) (11/02/86)
In article <3988@utah-cs.UUCP> cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) writes: > > Ok, I'll bite.....should this have had :-)'s??????? > In an attempt to forestall *long* postings replying to this, let me try to kill the topic with one word: YES The previous article was well-written satire, not truth. -Colin Plumb (ccplumb@watnot) Will somone tell me why everybody puts disclaimers down here?
cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) (11/03/86)
After submitting me request for :-) clarification I received the following:
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To: cetron@utah-cs.UTAH-CS
Subject: Questioning whether Anand's article should have had smileys
If you ever again ruin such a beautiful deadpan hack as Anand's by
asking for smileys, I will pay some kid to gun your grandma, spray-
paint your car or something equally heinous, ya dig?
Of course it should have had a hundred smileys in it, but there is
a class of people in this world who will wonder long and hard about a
posting like that. YOU may have deprived us of the sublime pleasure
of watching them wonder.
Gaaaaa.....
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I responded with:
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From: cetron (Ed Cetron)
Subject: Re: Questioning whether Anand's article should have had smileys
Cc: cetron
sorry, but unfortunately I have spent too long listening ('reading')
the rantings and ravings of the Sunny Kirsten's of the world over in
misc.headlines.....
Believe it or not, after the misc.headlines debates, I actually thought
that he was serious.....His arguments were identical to several requests I have
seen come into various Bioengineering depts for assistance...
But let's face it.....The plumbing should have tipped me off.....
I apologize.....I feel soooooo stupid.......dumb even.....and it
really was excellent satire...
-ed
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I forward this NOT as a flame, but to apologize totally to this entire news
group for ruining some exquisite satire...
.....Oh Mr. Bill, wait for me....
-ed