peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (03/06/90)
It seems like Amiga users are a better class of people, at least in Houston.
My wife calls a number of local chat boards, and mentioned on one
of them that she was using an Amiga. The person on the other end
remarked that he didn't call Amiga boards, because when you
talked about pirating software on an Amiga board they turned you
in. The very nerve!
Now if only this attitude (of the board users and sysops, that is) could be
promulgated to other places and user groups...
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v "Have you hugged your wolf today?" `-_-'msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) (03/06/90)
Note that many BBS's in the Houston area, and elsewhere (attctc, jolnet, illuminati, etc) are being shut down as part of an FBI sting, which seems to involve Bell South 911 and possibly ATT 3B2 software. See comp.dcom.telecom for more info (I know nothing but what I saw there). Mark -- Mark Smith, KNJ2LH All Rights Reserved RPO 1604 You may redistribute this article only if those who P.O. Box 5063 receive it may do so freely. New Brunswick, NJ 08903-5063 msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu
nick@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) (03/06/90)
In article <5249@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar (Peter da Silva) writes: >My wife calls a number of local chat boards, and mentioned on one >of them that she was using an Amiga. The person on the other end >remarked that he didn't call Amiga boards, because when you >talked about pirating software on an Amiga board they turned you >in. Hey, this da Silva guy is talking about pirating software. We'd better turn him in. :-) > _--_|\ Peter da Silva <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>. Nick. -- Nick Rothwell, Laboratory for Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh. nick@lfcs.ed.ac.uk <Atlantic Ocean>!mcvax!ukc!lfcs!nick ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ A prop? ...or wings? A prop? ...or wings? A prop?
ben@pnet01.cts.com (Ben Decker) (03/07/90)
The situation is the same here in San Diego. There was one pirate BBS that
lasted a SHORT while. It was run by a 14 year old kid with more than a few
social disorders... The Amiga community shut him down. The bottom line... The
Amiga MUST be supported by its users to stay alive and on top of the heap. I
think most of the users have gotten to where they would rather support the
machine than hope someone else does, at least here in San Diego.
-Ben
UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!ben
ARPA: crash!pnet01!ben@nosc.mil
INET: ben@pnet01.cts.comjback@trinesundc.East.Sun.COM (Joe Backo - PS Mgr Sun Washington) (03/07/90)
In article <Mar.5.18.38.43.1990.17610@topaz.rutgers.edu>, msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) writes: > Note that many BBS's in the Houston area, and elsewhere (attctc, > jolnet, illuminati, etc) are being shut down as part of an FBI sting, > which seems to involve Bell South 911 and possibly ATT 3B2 software. > Is this the same attctc that was once known as "killer"? If so, I'll take the address out of my L.sys ASAP.... Thanks for the info. Joe
peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (03/07/90)
In article <Mar.5.18.38.43.1990.17610@topaz.rutgers.edu> msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) writes: > Note that many BBS's in the Houston area, and elsewhere (attctc, > jolnet, illuminati, etc) are being shut down as part of an FBI sting, > which seems to involve Bell South 911 and possibly ATT 3B2 software. I realise that it's fashionable in the rest of the U.S. to think of Texas as one big homogenous "lump", and I know that many Houstonians might normally be flattered to have you consider Dallas as some sort of suburb of Houston, but really it isn't. Also, while the Amiga operating system has a lot in common with UNIX, the Amiga and UNIX communities aren't quite as closely integrated as you seem to be implying. Well, thanks for the kudos. I'll let John or Greg or someone assemble a Dallas-based response... -- _--_|\ `-_-' Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. <peter@ficc.uu.net>. / \ 'U` \_.--._/ "I've about decided that the net is not the place to do the right v thing. It might violate a charter somewhere ..." -- Spenser Aden
eaeu079@orion.oac.uci.edu (Jason Goldberg) (03/07/90)
In article <1752@crash.cts.com> ben@pnet01.cts.com (Ben Decker) writes: >The situation is the same here in San Diego. There was one pirate BBS that >lasted a SHORT while. It was run by a 14 year old kid with more than a few >social disorders... The Amiga community shut him down. The bottom line... The >Amiga MUST be supported by its users to stay alive and on top of the heap. I >think most of the users have gotten to where they would rather support the >machine than hope someone else does, at least here in San Diego. > -Ben There are more than a few Amiga pirate BBS's in the Irvine, CA area and they seem well conected to a national network of Amiga Pirates. I have aquired some of of their text files, including a list of their BBS's but they are very carefull and their is no way I can get on to any of these systems to confirm them. Is there anything further that I or someone else can do about this? -Jason- -- --------- Jason Goldberg INTERNET: eaeu079@ORION.OAC.UCI.EDU BITNET: eaeu079@UCI.BITNET
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (03/07/90)
In article <25F4C688.3767@orion.oac.uci.edu> eaeu079@orion.oac.uci.edu (Jason Goldberg) writes: |There are more than a few Amiga pirate BBS's in the Irvine, CA area and they |seem well conected to a national network of Amiga Pirates. I have aquired |some of of their text files, including a list of their BBS's but they are |very carefull and their is no way I can get on to any of these systems to |confirm them. Is there anything further that I or someone else can do |about this? You can call the Software Publisher Association toll free number, and they will tell you what you can do. Ask ATT for the 800 number for the SPA. -- Marco -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (03/07/90)
In <4756@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>, tommyk@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly) writes: >I recently took part in a fairly lively discussion about the "ethics/morality" >of software pirating by individuals. Has this issue been aired before on news. >If so where? >tk What a novel idea! I have never actually seen any debate on any network or BBS on this subject. We should definitely start one! I'm sure there would be all sorts of benefits from it. Seriously, yes, it's been done, and done again, and redone, reiterated, repeated, encored, reprised on every network or BBS that's been in existence for more than 17 days, and if you start another one, the entire net will hate you and flame you mercilessly. -larry -- Gallium Arsenide is the technology of the future; always has been, always will be. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
tommyk@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly) (03/08/90)
I recently took part in a fairly lively discussion about the "ethics/morality" of software pirating by individuals. Has this issue been aired before on news. If so where? tk -- ================================================================================ Disclaimer: "You can't pin that wrap on me." ================================================================================