klinner@sun.uucp (Kent Klinner) (11/04/86)
Has anyone out there ever used on a Teneron encryption modem made by Raven Communications (Arizona)? I spoke with Joe Hawraneck today about this little device. It supports callback, DES encryption, and a proprietary encryption scheme. It's also relatively cheap: $795. I have an internal alarm that goes off when I hear proprietary, so I would appreciate any information that anyone out there has. I couldn't resist the temptation to ask him about their overseas business. Their box has a microprocessor and Motorola's DES chip, so they applied for an export license. In order to get it they had to submit a description of their proprietary algorithm to the NSA. The NSA was very frank about their intentions: they don't want anyone, here or abroad, using any kind of encryption that can't be broken by the NSA. Here's the kicker. They got an export license that would allow them to sell the box only to divisions of US companies or to banks. They were forbidden to sell to foreign-owned companies except for banks. Of course, the enforcement of this kind of restriction has got to be difficult, so I suspect that there are piles of forms that have to filled out before any shipment is ever made. Isn't it encouraging to know that our tax dollars are being spent so wisely? I don't want to rekindle the debate about export licences and the proper role of government. I just thought you might find this interesting. Now back to the subject of my posting ... Apparently, Raven has sold these boxes to foreign branches of US companies. I'm looking for case histories, anecdotes, warnings, etc. Kent Klinner sun!drseuss!klinner Sun Microsystems P.S. terrorism, bombs, kidnapping, encryption, NSA, CIA, cocaine, heroin, assassination, child abuse, pornography, peace