[misc.misc] University entrance regulation

gunnaro@rhi.hi.is (Gunnar Orvarsson) (12/18/89)

					Reykjavik, 18.12. 1989


    To whom it may concern,


	On behalf of the students in the University Council of the University
 of Iceland, we would like, with this article, to ask you for some information
 regarding the entrance regulations in your universities for students without
 a standard secondary school diploma.
	We would like the present regulation valid in the University of 
 Iceland to be revised, as today the chances of admission for these students
 are not only minimal, but also dependent on ad hoc decision of faculties
 or even persons.  We have the impression that the chances of admission of
 these students in other countries are greater and that the decisions involved
 are less subjectively made.  In order for us to be able to prepare our issue
 as thoroughly as possible, it would be of great help to receive information
 from as many universities as possible.  Therefore we would be greatful if
 you could answer these following questions, or, otherwise, if you consult 
 someone who can.  

    1. What are the standard regulations for admission of students without a
       secondary school diploma?
       What is the general purpose of these regulations?

    2. Is each application treated separately?  By whom and on the basis of 
       what information?  Is the agae of the applicant of importance?  Other
       factors?

    3. What has been the experience with these regulations so far?  Are there 
       many such applications?  Are some groups more represented among the
       applicants than others ( men/women, unemployed, foreign students,...)?
       Are the applications aimed at specific faculties or studies more than
       others?  How is the performance of these students?

    4. Are the students/teachers at your universities generally satisfied with
       these regulations?  Have specific criticisms come up? Have alternatives
       been suggested?  Have other regulations existed in the past?  If so,
       when and why were they changed?



   Please, e-mail your answers directly to me, or post them as an article on 
   this newsgroup.

   With sincere thanks and friendly greetings,
   
   on behalf of Roskva, The union of socially orientated students in the 
   Universty of Iceland,

                Gunnar Orvarsson (gunnaro@rhi.hi.is)

 
   Physical address:

                      Gunnar Orvarsson
		      Vikurbakka 14
		      109 Reykjavik
		      Iceland

jpp@tygra.UUCP (John Palmer) (12/19/89)

I'm not an official with Wayne State University in Detroit, Michigan, but
I know that people need either a high school diploma or a general education
certificate.
 
The ad-hoc admission standards should be eliminated for the good of everyone.
Even when there are standards in place, there must be some overseer to make
sure that people can't circumvent them.
 
I have personal knowledge that this occurs at Wayne State - particularily
in the Computer Science Department. The university bulletin states that a
student must have at least a 3.0 G.P.A. to be admitted to the Master's 
Program, but I know that there are many students (especially foreign
students) who have GPA's under 3.0, some of them with 1.5's and 1.6's.
The only time that the CS department pulls out the rule book is if someone
in charge of admissions has something personal against the applicant, or
is a friend of someone who has such a grudge. The moral of the story:
"Be sure to have a very strong overseer".


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jwhite@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jonathan White) (12/20/89)

The California master plan for higher education provides
for three levels: The University of California, The 
California State University system, and the California
Community College the Community Colleges provide, among
other things, two year academic degrees. To attend one
of these two year schools you must be a high school graduate
or 18 years of age. Those who have gotten a degree from one
^^
of the Community Colleges are then eligable to go on to the
University of California or one of the State Universities 
depending on their GPA on graduating (it must be higher to
go to U.C. than to the Cal State system)



jonathan