[net.sf-lovers] Dune

BALZAC%YKTVMZ.BITNET%Berkeley@sri-unix.UUCP (08/14/84)

From:  Stephen R. Balzac <BALZAC%YKTVMZ.BITNET@Berkeley>

Could someone who has a copy of the hack cast for Dune, please send it
to me?  Thanks.

moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) (12/03/84)

On the other hand, Dino has done the excellent "Ragtime" adaptation (if
ANYONE could truly have adapted it), and THE DEAD ZONE, which is one of the
most underated movies of last year  -- much better than the book.  So it
looks like a toss-up to me.

Oh, Frank Herbert says it's great, but then he also has contracts for the
options on the next score of Dune movies, and is in trouble for back taxes
in our ol' state of Washington (talk about the White Plague... the Worst
Plague is tax people :-) ).  Also, he keeps hinting that Lucas plagarized
from Dune in the STAR WARS movies.  Frank should be so lucky.

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charles@uw70 (Bad Charles) (12/27/84)

Since the movie is out, it is appropriate to reprint the following parody 
that first appeared in net.jokes several months ago:


The Associated Press yesterday released information concerning the near
completion of the movie version of Frank Herbert's "Dune".  They neglected
to announce any casting information, so we at Mellon Institute thought
that we would fill this gap with our own suggestions:


Baron Harkonnen		Jackie Gleason
	("One of these days, Leto, a one way trip to 'da doon.  To
	 'da doon, Leto!")

Emperor Shaddam		Ricardo Montalbon
	("Ah, Reverend Mother, are you aware of the old Ixian proverb that
	 says, 'Melange is a dish best served cold'?  You know, it is very
	 cold in spice.")

Duke Leto		Marlon Brando
	(pretentious, overbearing, has the respect of his men, and you only
	 see him for the first 15 minutes of the film.  "Paul, my son, you
	 are going to another planet.  No wait, I did this line before...")

Reverend Mother		Joan Rivers
	("Can we tawk?  You wanna tawk?  Here, stick your hand in this box...")

Liet Kynes		Ben Haggerty
	(man of the wild, knows everything about exobiology, but has a very
	 common sense way of looking at things.  "Well, see, this sandtrout
	 is, like, kind of like a vector, you see.  He, uh, has this, um...")

Gurney Hallek		Alec Karras
	("Gurney just pawn in game of life.")

Sandworm		Frank Oz

Stilgar			Harrison Ford
	("Shields may be one thing kid, but the sandworms will turn you into
	 lunchmeat in a minute.  Give me chrysknife in a tight spot anyday.")

Doctor Yueh		Hunter S. Thompson
	(See also his treatise "Fear and Loathing on Arrakis")

Count Fenring		Marty Feldman			
	("I was the Sisterhoods closest attempt at the Kwisatz Haderach.
	 They got everything right except my future sight is a bit cockeyed.
	 They call me the Ersatz Haderach.")

Paul Muad'Dib		Muhhamed Ali
	("I float like an ornithopter, and I sting like a hunter-seeker.
	 I'm the prettiest duke-apparent, and the protector of the weaker.
	 And if you mess with my Fremen, you better call on your Guard,
	 C'oz I'll make you a target on my righteous Jihad.")

Princess Irulan		Loni Anderson
	(We don't care if she can act, we just want to see her in an
	Imperial Bikini.)

Chani			Susan St. James
	(Ditto.)

Feyd Rautha		Tom Selleck
	(We have to be fair.)

Lady Jessica		Nancy Walker
	("So.  You killed him.  You proud of yourself?  My son, the killer.
	 Oy, what would your father (may he rest in peace) say?")

Thufir Hawat		Hymie
	("My first line approximation is for goodness and niceness.")

Beast Rabban		Bruce Weitz
	("Okay, hairbag.  It's into the arena with you!")

Jamis			David Carradine
	("So grasshopper, you know about slipstyle boots.  Big deal.  Let's
	 see how you hold up in a tahaddi-challenge.")

Shadout Mapes		Eddie Murphy
	("'Dis here's mah' castle, see, an' I don' wan' no dumbass honkeys
	 fum Caladan messin' wif it, you hear?")

The theme song will be sung by Chrystal Gayle.
	("Don't it make my brown eyes blue?")


			  Charles E. Camisa
			  Geophysics Department
			  University of Washington

indra@utai.UUCP (Indra Laksono) (12/30/84)

	Speaking of DUNE.  I wonder how many people liked the movie?
In my humble, naive opinion, to say that it didn't do the book justice
may be the understatement of the Millenium.  Let's just say that if 
Herbert was dead, we just might hear subterranean vibrations (like turning).

	In fact, when the movie started, everybody clapped REAL LOUD.  But
the giggling started 1 minute into the movie when Princess Irulan said all
those profound things.  The thing that really cracked everybody up was Paul
repeating over and over : "Dune, Desert planet...  Spice, sandworm".

	It was only at the end, when Paul Muad'ib captured the emperor, etc.
that we really realize how much the audience enjoyed the movie  (REALLY).
Paul said that his battle was fought in the name of Justice.  Then, Feyd
Rautha (Sting) said,"Justice" (say it with sarcasm).  Almost everyone clapped.
I almost did too.  It was the most disappointing night in my life.  (Maybe
my hopes were too high.)


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geb@cadre.UUCP (12/31/84)

Indeed, the movie of Dune was a joke.  Dino de Laurentis
strikes out again.  I wasn't as disappointed, since I
hadn't expected much, given the pre-release hype and
all the books, etc. release before the film, to try to
make some money before everyone found out how badly
it stank.  Frank Herbert wasn't turning in his grave,
since he's still alive and most of the books he turns
out now are of the same ilk as the movie.  I guess he's
the type of author who only really has one good book in
him.  It is extremely difficult to make a great movie
out of a great book.  Look at Ralph Bakshi's abortion
with Lord of the Rings.  But really, how could you 
make a movie out of LotR or Dune unless the movie ran
20 hours in the case of Dune and maybe 100 hours in the
case of LotR.  Who would finance it?  What theaters would
book it?  The charm is tied up with all the rich detail,
that can't be shown in a movie.  The detail is not just
in the sets.  Something like Star Wars succeeds because it
was conceived as a movie (or series) and tailored accordingly,
but lacks the depth of meaning of LotR, or even Dune (which
though good, shouldn't really be considered in the same
galaxy with Tolkein, or even Gene Wolfe).  

stork@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (David Zabowski) (01/02/85)

I thought this was a JOKE net not an opinion net.  Oh well...
I guess I am just stupid or something....


					Dave Zabowski
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holly@dartvax.UUCP (01/03/85)

Speaking of Dune....
  Of all the people I have talked to, it seems that only those who
saw the movie before reading the book (myself included) thought it was
a good movie.  However, immediately after seeing the movie, I read
the book, and realized how bad the movie was compared to the book.
Rhetorical question--How did Herbert allow them to make such a mess
out of what is really an excellent book?

Ken Varnum

jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) (01/03/85)

In article <124@cadre.UUCP> geb@cadre.UUCP writes:
>Frank Herbert wasn't turning in his grave, since... most of the books he
>turns out now are of the same ilk as the movie.  I guess he's the type of
>author who only really has one good book in him.

The first sentance, I might not argue, but before making a statement like the
second, try reviewing some of his earlier works, such as "The Green Brain",
etc.
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merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (01/04/85)

> Speaking of Dune....
>   Of all the people I have talked to, it seems that only those who
> saw the movie before reading the book (myself included) thought it was
> a good movie.  However, immediately after seeing the movie, I read
> the book, and realized how bad the movie was compared to the book.
> Rhetorical question--How did Herbert allow them to make such a mess
> out of what is really an excellent book?
> 
> Ken Varnum
> 

Uh, gang, what say you move this discussion to net.movies?
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                                    Peter Merchant

julian@osu-eddie.UUCP (Julian Gomez) (01/07/85)

1) Frank Herbert liked the movie
2) STOP TALKING ABOUT DUNE ON NET.JOKES!!!
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larryg@teklds.UUCP (Larry Gardner) (01/14/85)

Is Dune really as gross as I have heard?  I mean blood and gore.

karen alias larryg