chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui) (01/27/85)
The local PBS station, KTEH (54 in San Jose) just announced that they will
be starting a run of the series 'The Prisoner' starting in March. For all
of you in the KTEH viewing area, rejoice and get your VCR's tuned up. For
the rest of you, start yelling at your PBS stations. The shows ARE
available, all they need is some persuasion... Another reason to support
PBS stations.... (*yipee!*)
chuq
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Of course, for all you law abiding Citizens out there who wouldn't dare Steal a copyrighted program (or don't live within the range of a friendly PBS station [WHYY Philadelphia was up to "The General" before Usenix]), you can Buy the episodes at your local Video Emporium for only $39.95 each. Be seeing you. === Guy Riddle == AT&T Bell Laboratories, New Jersey ===
ron@wjvax.UUCP (Ron Christian) (01/28/85)
Funny, just the other day my date confessed that she thinks
she remembers a tv show from her childhood, something about
a giant beach ball that devours people. Everyone she's asked
about it, (family, friends) thought she was crazy. Now, once
and for all, she can see that she wasn't.
--
Ron Christian (Watkins-Johnson Co. San Jose, Calif.)
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> From: nsc!chuqui (Chuck Von Rospach) > The local PBS station, KTEH (54 in San Jose) just announced that they will > be starting a run of the series 'The Prisoner' starting in March. For all > of you in the KTEH viewing area, rejoice and get your VCR's tuned up. For > the rest of you, start yelling at your PBS stations. The shows ARE > available, all they need is some persuasion... Another reason to support > PBS stations.... (*yipee!*) It should also be noted that, according to Patrick McGoohan in a local interview (he's in Boston doing a play), the entire PRISONER series will be available on videocassette sometime this year. --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Maynard, MA) UUCP: {decvax|ihnp4|allegra|ucbvax|...} !decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-akov68!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%akov68.DEC@DECWRL.ARPA
iannucci@sjuvax.UUCP (iannucci) (02/05/85)
[ I've always been mad, I know I've been mad ... ]
Just thought I'd add my two cents to this news. Our PBS station here
in Philadelphia started showing The Prisoner about 8 weeks ago, and I am
enjoying it immensely. It was recommended to me the last time it was shown
and I checked it out, but I was only a mere 13 years old at the time, and
couldn't appreciate it. Take note that episode 7 ("Many Happy Returns")
is exceptionally good -- the best of the series that I have seen so far,
so don't miss it if you haven't seen it.
The only thing that bugs me about the show is ROVER, the balloon-
like entity which guards the perimeter of the village. The way I see it, they
needed a believable way to keep the very clever No. 6 from escaping the
island, but is this really believeable? Or am I being unreasonably picky?
Any thoughts on this?
--
David J. Iannucci (the dirty vicar) St. Joseph's University
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"A witty saying proves nothing. " --Voltaire
=============================================================================weiss@gondor.UUCP (Michael Weiss) (02/06/85)
> The only thing that bugs me about the show is ROVER, the balloon- > like entity which guards the perimeter of the village. The way I see it, they > needed a believable way to keep the very clever No. 6 from escaping the > island, but is this really believeable? Or am I being unreasonably picky? > Any thoughts on this? *** REPLACE THIS man WITH number six! *** I love this show! Except for ROVER, though, I wouldn't call it SF. I am not in Philly now, so a friend of mine is taping the entire series for me. When I go home, I watch about 3-4 hours straight of it. About ROVER. I find him silly. Many times you can see the string pulling him along the water, but I don't mind. When you love a show you take a lot of things as givens. ROVER could have been done more convinsingly, but such is life in the Village. I hope they tell us who #1 is at the end of the series, or at least get him rescued. Q: Any thought as to where the Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? "I am a MAN, not a number!!" -Number Six -- -Michael "on the Twilight Node" Weiss ...!psuvax1!gondor!weiss - The opinions expressed herein are those of my superiors, and are not necessarily shared by myself.
iannucci@sjuvax.UUCP (iannucci) (02/07/85)
[ We want information ... information ... ] >I love this show! Except for ROVER, though, I wouldn't call it SF. >I hope they tell us who #1 is at the end of >the series, or at least get him rescued. Q: Any thought as to where the >Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they >do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? >-- >-Michael "on the Twilight Node" Weiss ...!psuvax1!gondor!weiss I do share your enthusiasm for The Prisoner, and agree that it really isn't SF (but where else would we discuss it?). I don't think we'll ever find out who No.1 is, but I think that No. 6 will eventually escape. If there's anyone out there who knows, please don't spoil it for us. Anyway, there's more I could say if you've seen "Many Happy Returns" (episode 7), but I don't want to spoil anything for you if you haven't. Here's a trivia question for observant Prisoner fans: What is No. 6's address in London? And another question: What in God's name is that umbrella-looking thing that all the No.2's carry? This must have some significance. The location of the Village? That I can tell you. It's on the Baltic Sea on the coast of Lithuania. I don't believe that that means that it is a Communist institution, though. I am convinced that British intelligence runs it. Episode 9 tonight in Philly. Be seeing you! -- David J. Iannucci (the dirty vicar) St. Joseph's University {allegra | astrovax | bpa | burdvax}!sjuvax!iannucci Philadelphia "A witty saying proves nothing. " --Voltaire =============================================================================
myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Jeff Myers) (02/09/85)
> Q: Any thought as to where the > Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they > do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? > > "I am a MAN, not a number!!" -Number Six > As I recall, the Village is actually a little burg on the south coast of Wales. jeff m
reid@dciem.UUCP (Reid Ellis) (02/09/85)
Relay-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP [Michael Weiss writes] >Q: Any thought as to where the >Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they >do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? The Village scenes were shot in a town named Port Marion in southern England. Our family visited there a few years ago. It is a tourist attraction due to its definite air of unreality. A lot of the buildings are about 2 feet thick so that you open the front door and walk right through out the back. There is even a statue there dedicated to the summer of some year [1965?] just because it was a really nice summer. If you are ever in the area, plan a visit. You can eat in a restaurant that overlooks the beach where #6 wrote "Help me!" in the sand in giant letters. -- Reid Ellis "With great power comes great reponsibility" - Spiderman {allegra,decvax,duke,floyd,linus}!utzoo!dciem!reid
lindley@ut-ngp.UUCP (John L. Templer) (02/09/85)
Argh!!! I can't stand it anymore!
Having seen the complete sequence of "Prisoner" episodes twice,
I am having much difficulty restraining myself from telling all.
Oh, well. Any way, where all is it currently being shown? It
has been too long since I have seen it.
--
John L. Templer
University of Texas at Austin
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"and they called it, yuppy love."cs2532aa@unm-cvax.UUCP (02/09/85)
>> The only thing that bugs me about the show is ROVER, the balloon- >> like entity which guards the perimeter of the village. The way I see it, they >> needed a believable way to keep the very clever No. 6 from escaping the >> island, but is this really believeable? Or am I being unreasonably picky? >> Any thoughts on this? > About > ROVER. I find him silly. Many times you can see the string pulling him > along the water, but I don't mind. When you love a show you take a lot > of things as givens. ROVER could have been done more convinsingly, but > such is life in the Village. I haven't spotted the wires on Rover yet, but then I'm not really looking for them either (reminds me of when STAR WARS was on CBS and you could see all the matte lines and little squares of film where they inserted the TIE fighters and X-Wings...but thats another flame for another newsgroup...). Since The Prisoner is really a "people" show as opposed to a "hardware" show, any little things that I might have trouble believing in (like Rover, all those invisible cameras that are everywhere and seem to follow folks around without them noticing [except for Number Six, of course], the mind control techniques used in "A, B, and C"... all these things are ignored by my conscious mind. I'm too wrapped up in the story to notice! > I hope they tell us who #1 is at the end of > the series, or at least get him rescued. Q: Any thought as to where the > Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they > do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? The last episode of the series is absolutely fantastic. No matter what you want to see, you probably won't be disappointed. The ending has some amazing twists that have kept people puzzling over them since the series was first shown. As for where the Village is, my vote is for somewhere in Greece. In an early episode of "Danger Man" (known in the U.S. as "Secret Agent"), the Patrick McGoohan character is sent to Greece to try and keep a British agent from "selling out". One of the locations looked EXACTLY like the area where the Village is, in fact, it looked just like a shot of the beach in front of the Village. Coincidence? Maybe...you never know. At the end of that episode, when Drake (McGoohan's character) finds out that his bosses lied to him in order to get the other agent back, and that the agent was to be arrested despite Drake's promises to the contrary, I realized just why he resigned!! If I worked for a bunch of guys like that, I'd jump ship too! Be Seeing You, .rne. ----- Real World . . Ernie Longmire / 311 Don St. SE / Los Lunas, NM 87031-9405 UUCP . . . . . {{purdue,cmcl2,ihnp4}!lanl,ucbvax}!unmvax!unm-cvax!cs2532aa GalactiNet . . 1/MkyWy/r9.844-T00.05'24"-S206.28'49"/3/U.S.AT&T/5058655516 Scotch . . . . Dewars ----- Thank you . . . Good Night . . . Drive carefully.
darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) (02/09/85)
The Prisoner was actually filmed at the Hotel Portmerion in Wales (so in
some sense, that's where the vilage is, or could be).
Rover was something of an accident. It was originally envisioned (and
built) as a robot/machine-like entity. Unfortunately their machine proved
to be very cranky, especially in water. It was out of commision and they
had to film something, when they happened to see these weather baloons
laying about...
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VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPAggr@cord.UUCP (Guy Riddle) (02/10/85)
# About ROVER. I find him silly. Many times you can see the string pulling him # along the water, but I don't mind. When you love a show you take a lot # of things as givens. ROVER could have been done more convinsingly, but # such is life in the Village. I hope they tell us who #1 is at the end of # the series, or at least get him rescued. Q: Any thought as to where the # Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they # do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? # # "I am a MAN, not a number!!" -Number Six # # -Michael "on the Twilight Node" Weiss ...!psuvax1!gondor!weiss Actually they did build a mechanical Rover contraption, but it rolled over and died when they started filming. The Rover they did use was a weather balloon, with shots of a Lava Lite (do they still make them?) to show Rover's emergence from the depths of the Sea. I actually like Rover -- it was cute and liked to cuddle. You do find out who Number One is, in the last episode of course. Or maybe he really isn't Number One. You'll have to make up your own mind after seeing it -- you don't expect an unambiguous ending, do you? The outdoor scenes of the Village were filmed in Wales, at a resort hotel called the Portmeiron (if I remember correctly). Watch the credits for the final episode -- it's listed there. And the most frequent version of the quote is "I'm not a number, I'm a Free Man!". === Guy Riddle == AT&T Bell Laboratories, New Jersey === ggr.btl@csnet-relay.ARPA ihnp4!ggr
mgh@hou5h.UUCP (Marcus Hand) (02/11/85)
The village used in the prisoner is in Cornwall, the southwestern-most county of england where its always damp, rarely snows except on the moors and generally has some pretty lush and interesting vegetation. The actual village's name escapes me at present, so I'll look on a map when I get home and see if I remember the name.
ron@wjvax.UUCP (Ron Christian) (02/11/85)
If you had read the books, (Which I did at about 13), you
know that the rovers were fluidic robots. In the book
'The Prisoner' the bouncing balls were color coded for
specific function: ground based guardian, flying guardian,
amphibious guardian, and so forth. The white robots were
the only ones that could kill. (Which they did by digesting
the victim; leaving only metal parts behind. Ugh!) I guess
they decided to make them all white in the series. Or
am I missing something, due to a black and white tv?
Shouldn't we move this to net.tv before the drwho-but-not-prisoner
fans get vicious?
--
Ron Christian (Watkins-Johnson Co. San Jose, Calif.)
{pesnta,twg,ios,qubix,turtlevax,tymix}!wjvax!ron@RUTGERS.ARPA:Caro.PA@Xerox.ARPA (02/11/85)
From: Caro.PA@XEROX.ARPA > The only thing that bugs me about the show is ROVER >> About ROVER. I find him silly. Arrrrg! I LOVES ROVER! He's the best part of the whole series. A local PBS station did a Patrick McGoohan (sp?) interview. Good ol' #6 explained the genesis of Rover. It seems that the original Rover (Rover Prime) was a robot, a mechanical dog-like creature on treads (shades of K-9??). But the first episode required Rover to "swim" in the sea. Needless to say, Rover Prime shorted out and expired with a puff of smoke. So #6 and the producer were standing on the beach, trying to decide what to do about Rover, when #6 notice a weather balloon floating above a weather station that was close-by the shooting location. I could just see the lightbulb light up over his head! So ROVER SECUNDUS was born. I think it was an excellent idea. That bouncing spheroid seemed so innocent, so cute looking ... but what a deception! ROVER, being so simple and featureless, allowed one's imagination to expand at the horror and malevolence that lurked within its gaseous core. If I saw a two meter diameter blob bouncing down the street ROARING towards me, I'd be scared pissless! Sigh ... this is the result of the Star Wars mentality ... everything's gotta be gee-whiz-flash-bang-hi-rez-sim-com-3D or else it's "silly". Is there no room left for the imagination? If you are unimpressed by Rover Secundus, don't bother reading Lovecraft. You'll be hopelessly bored. [I think Rover would fit quite nicely into the Cthulhu Mythos, don't you?] Perry Abdul Alhazr'd "Who is Number One?" "You are Number Six ..." "ORANGE ALERT! ORANGE ALERT! ORANGE ALERT!"
md@ncsu.UUCP (Mike Davis) (02/12/85)
Although I know it is not the place for it, I would like to say that including info about things that aren't quite the subject matter of the particular network is fine by me. (This is going here because of the rude comments about posting prisoner stuff on tv.drwho.) For weeks I tried to get net.drwho, net.doctor and every other combination I could think of, with no luck. If it wasn't for that Anjelique (sp) Pettijohn stuff being cross listed on net.startrek I would never have found it. And for that matter if one of the startrek movies hadn't had some small effect using an APPLE ][ computer a cross listed apple/startrek article might never have been posted, and I would have never thought of looking for startrek (or drwho). I realize there must be a listing of all the nets somewhere but until I find it this is the only way I can learn of new ones.
weiss@gondor.UUCP (Michael S. Weiss) (02/12/85)
> I do share your enthusiasm for The Prisoner, and agree > that it really isn't SF (but where else would we discuss it?). *** REPLACE THIS Baltic Coast WITH YOUR Village *** I propose we move it to net.tv. I do love it and want to get a rollicking discussion going about it. Re: episode 7, I have seen it so what do you have to say? And how do you *know* where the Village is? "I am not a number!" - Number Six -- -Michael "on the Twilight Node" Weiss ...!psuvax1!gondor!weiss - The opinions expressed herein are those of my superiors, and are not necessarily shared by myself.
map@whuxl.UUCP (PEARCE) (02/12/85)
> I hope they tell us who #1 is at the end of > the series, or at least get him rescued. Q: Any thought as to where the > Village really is? Not that many places can have the kind of climate they > do (rarely rains, never cold), with a bay and mountains, etc. Whaddya think? > > -Michael "on the Twilight Node" Weiss ...!psuvax1!gondor!weiss > *** REPLACE THIS FORTUNE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** The Prisoner series was filmed in a town called Portmerrion, on the South Wales coast, UK. I have been there. The whole town consists of an architects fantasy of a period Italian town. Some of the buildings are just frontages, i.e. no complete buildings. They just look good. Number TWO's front door actually opens onto a sheer rock face. I understand that *they* now run the town as an exclusive hotel. And yes, number SIX's house does exist right where you see it in the series. ***SPOILER**** If I can recall, when I saw the original Prisoner series in England, number SIX is number ONE. Confused? Well that's how the series ended all those years ago. P.S. What do you mean, that it rarely rains and is never cold in the village. I assume you don't know Wales in the winter. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Mike "answer the British questions" Pearce ..!ihnp4!whuxl!map | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
@RUTGERS.ARPA:Daniel_S._Conde.osbunorth@Xerox.ARPA (02/13/85)
From: Conde.osbunorth@XEROX.ARPA > The only thing that bugs me about the show is ROVER, the balloon- > like entity which guards the perimeter of the village. The way I > see it, they needed a believable way to keep the very clever No. 6 > from escaping the island, but is this really believeable? Or am I > being unreasonably picky? > Any thoughts on this? This is what I got from the interview on TV Ontario... Rover was originally a remote controlled "robot vehicle" that actually flipped around, went into water, etc. and did other neat things. However, during the filming of one of the early episodes, Rover went into water, and stayed there. Not being able to fix it in time, the crew was in the jam. Then someone looked up at the sky and saw a weather balloon, and that became rover. PM thought that it came out better with the new Rover than some kind of a mechanical vehicle. Incidentally, there is a Prisoner novel that you could buy, provided you look really hard....I think it's written by Tom Ditsch (sp). Daniel Conde conde.pa@Xerox.ARPA
msp@ukc.UUCP (M.S.Parsons) (02/14/85)
In article <388@hou5h.UUCP> mgh@hou5h.UUCP (Marcus Hand) writes: >The village used in the prisoner is in Cornwall, the southwestern-most >county of england where its always damp, rarely snows except on the moors >and generally has some pretty lush and interesting vegetation. The actual >village's name escapes me at present, so I'll look on a map when I get home >and see if I remember the name. No! NO! The village is in Wales, UK, a place called Port Merian (Not sure of the spelling.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Parsons UUCP: ..{ucl-cs,cfg,edcaad,mcvax,kcl-cs}!ukc!msp msp@ukc.UUCP JANET:MSP%UKC%{EDXA,UCL-CS}.. MSP@UKC.AC.UK Mail: Computing Lab, University of Kent, Canterbury, Kent, England.
msc@saber.UUCP (Mark Callow) (02/19/85)
> The village used in the prisoner is in Cornwall, the southwestern-most > county of england where its always damp, rarely snows except on the moors > and generally has some pretty lush and interesting vegetation. [Sorry about this being in net.tv.drwho but I couldn't let the above go by without correcting it.] Nonsense. The Village is Port Merion in North Wales, which isn't a real village. Port Merion is a holiday resort; each building contains several rooms or apartents of what is basically a large and somewhat unusual hotel. It was built in an Italianesque style by Sir Clough Williams-Ellis. I was there in August. Sadly it had an air of faded glory and was in need of painting. It's still interesting to visit though. They have a Prisoner souvenir shop in Number 6's cottage. Very little of the Prisoner was actually filmed there. A set was built at the studio. -- From the TARDIS of Mark Callow msc@saber.UUCP, saber!msc@decwrl.ARPA ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!saber!msc, ...{amd,ihnp4,ittvax}!saber!msc
ckuppe@spock.UUCP (Charles A. Kupperman '87 ) (02/19/85)
The Prisoner does return. Several episodes have been released on videotape, and can be mail-ordered, or bought in any store. You can also buy the three books written in the late Seventies...
mab@hou4a.UUCP (Michael Brochstein) (02/21/85)
I have been to The Village, it really exists ! As many of you know, in the last episode of The Prisoner the credits list the hotel where it was filmed. It is in Portmarion which is on the coast in Wales. It is indeed intersting to "walk" in The Village. It also shows how hollywood can make things look very different in real life and in person. The main features of the village do exist but reality if more down to earth. The boat in concrete is there as are all the other architectural items from the TV show. They are just smaller and juxtaposed differently in real life. You can by a number 6 button for your jacket in the "Village Shop" but the only other Prisoner souvenirs consist of one paperback book aimed at younger readers. I truly recommend a drive to the village not only to see it but to see another side of Britain which is not overun by tourists. It is out of the way but a very pleasent trip through beautiful countryside. -- Michael Brochstein AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel, NJ ihnp4!hou4a!mab (201) 834-3482
pete@stc-c.gb.UUCP (Peter Kendell) (02/21/85)
Actually----
The Village is in North Wales. It is called Portmeirion
and was built in the early part of this century by an eccentric
architect name of Sir William Clough-Ellis. If you want to find
it on the map, Portmadoc is the nearest town. Since the series'
recent reshowing on Channel 4 TV, it is now possible to get all
kinds of cutsie souvenirs there. (It costs about #1.50 to get in).muffy@lll-crg.ARPA (Muffy Barkocy) (02/27/85)
> > Incidentally, there is a Prisoner novel that you could buy, provided you > look really hard....I think it's written by Tom Ditsch (sp). > > > Daniel Conde > conde.pa@Xerox.ARPA Actually, there are at least three Prisoner novels, being published by New English Library. They are: The Prisoner Thomas M. Disch The Prisoner: A Day in the Life Hank Stine The Prisoner: Who is Number Two David McDaniel I find them occasionally at a bookstore here in the city (SF) ...I suggest looking at any stores which carry lots of English editions... Muffy