[mod.religion.christian] On "speaking in tongues

harwood@cvl.UUCP (David Harwood) (11/04/86)

	Some more controversy - no matter what most charismatic
Christians believe, or what scholars say, there is some more miss-
understanding -- of what was meant by "speaking in tongues", as Paul
says, "speaking in the tongues of angels". There is extra-Biblical
reference to this Jewish religious concept, and no one in early
Christianity "babbled" in literally unintelligible dialects. Actually,
there are examples of "speaking in tongues of angels" right in the
New Testament writings. I won't argue this at all since I once wrote
thousands of words with references to all sorts of ancient Jewish and 
Christian tradition. But the basic Jewish idea is that no one knows
"the mysteries of heaven (the magnificent things)" except the angels
in heaven, or those who like the angels have "ascended to heaven"
as Paul did (II Cor. end, which is Jewish traditional account of
such ascent.). Those who were "baptised in Christ", especially those
"sent by God" (a Jewish traditional concept, originating with the
call of Moses in Exodus 3) -- the "apostles" (Greek for "those sent"),
were likened to angels because they were admitted to the presence of
God, knew the "heavenly mysteries", and were sent on missions for
God, as Paul was for Christ.
	So, the Jewish traditional idea is that "the angels" know
"the mysteries of heaven", what Paul calls "the mysteries of Christ"
- for Christians. According to Jewish tradition, the angels in heaven
praise God with celestial "hymns" about his mysterious but "magnificent
works or things". There is one great Celestial Song (the TriSagion is
most important to the Kedush though), with each angel having " a new
song" to sing (cf Revelation about the songs of the saints). Well,
according to Jewish tradition, "the angels" on earth glorify God in
the same way as in heaven - by composing new songs (hymns) to be
sung by "the choir" below in Synagogue (assembly). The subject of
these "hymns" or inspired poems is "the mysteries (of Christ)" in
the Christian assemblies. 
	Now there are a number of these hymns, not only in early 
Jewish Christianity (eg the important Odes of Solomon which are 
related closely to Johanine thought), but in contemporary
Jewish sects, even The Thanksgiving Hymns of the Essenes at Qumran.
The latter have a similar subject generally - that of the mysteries
of God's revelation and redemption, and refer to speaking of the
mouth as inspired by God.
	But there are a number of these "angelic hymns" about the
mysteries of Christ, even to be found in the New Testament. Examples,
are the prologues of John, Colossians, Ephesians, Hebrews, and parts
of other Pauline writings. Paul himself, as a Jew, composed many
hymns himself. In fact, the hymn to love with its conclusion about
mystery of knowing God (as in a glass darkly, Greek 'enigma' - referring
to Numbers where Moses sees God face to face, "not as in a prophetic
parable"). is ITSELF an example of such a "hymn" spoken in the tongues
of angels (Paul's own composition).
	The Jews in Acts understood the Gentiles' "speaking in tongues",
but were astonished because these who were converts to Christ were 
using their own Jewish RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION with its traditional
prophetic figures of speech. (Judaism was an exclusivist religion by
and large - about which outsiders knew nearly nothing, certainly not
about their prophets teaching about the one true God.) So Luke has them
joke that the converts to Christ are drunk (indeed - with the new wine).
	So what is Paul complaining about in I Corinthians 14, after
composing his own hymn -- he is saying that the meeting is becoming
a disorderly and presumptuous scandal to outsiders, who might be
converted. Except that some members are "speaking in tongues (as angels)"
nonsense - which even they cannot interpret. (Note he says that when
we speak in tongues (of angels) we are speaking to God, and to what
he calls "the initiated" (literal Greek), but "outsiders" cannot understand
this sort of religious manner of speech (hymns or poems about the
heavenly mysteries, which only "the angels" -those initiated- can 
understand). That is, while we can understand -- as Paul says earlier
in I Corinthians because we share the understanding of Christ, being
his members - the mind of Christ, speaking of the Spirit to those
who are spiritual themselves -- nevertheless, this "speaking in tongues
(of angels)" is a scandal (obstacle) to conversion of outsiders.
He quotes Isaiah about this, to prove that God said that outsiders
CANNOT understand such inspired religious figures of speech. Isaiah
prophesied to the people, but they mock him as speaking nonsense
-- as if what he said was "a strange language" to them. They cannot
understand because "THUS SAITH THE LORD." (a very strange concept
of Jewish religous thought even for us modern Gentile Christians,
by the way, which is exactly paralleled by Jesus quotation of Isaiah
to explain why he speak "in parables" (about the mysteries of the
kingdom of God).)
	So Paul is complaining that some do not really know what
they are "speaking about" (they are talking nonsense), and that,
more important to Paul, this is scandalizing the conversion of
outsiders, who don't understand these things yet (before their
conversion).
	Enough controversy, I'm tired. (Ask me why did Jesus
write with his finger in the ground in the story about stoning
the adulteress ;-) I don't mean to offend anyone with arguments
about obscure subjects, which are not very important for our faith.
	Yours in Christ,
					David Harwood