[mod.religion.christian] answers

christian@topaz.UUCP (04/05/87)

>Subject: Re: More Questions on Christianity<


[This is a response to an article claiming that crucifixion was due to
 a plot to make Jesus appear to fulfill various OT prophesies.  As usual
 I have tried to abbreviate quotations. --clh]

1- I'm rather suspicious of defining Jesus as a bible scholar.
2- The word messiah is much better than saviour (due to saviour's christian
   connotations.
3- Jesus & co. [:-)] didn't try to "convert" other people since they didn't
   form a new religion & their target audience was Jewish.

[The article said that the crucifixion was the result of the misfiring
 of a plot. That plot was due to a misinterpretation of some prophecies
 about resurrection. --clh]

The prophecies of the OT dealing with the messiah have almost nothing
to do with resurrection or self-sacrifice.  Those that do, have an
allegorical meaning so obvious that no one can claim them to be as
they seem (especially no scholar). Martyrdom isn't one of the
qualifications to the messiah. Jesus himself seems quite reluctant to
die ...

[The original posting discussed how "son of God" came to be attached to 
 Jesus --clh]

Jews at those times despised the gentiles for being pagans. Thus
naming their messiah with a pagan title would have been an unspeakable
thing to do.  The son of god was attached to Jesus by the pagan
Christians, not the 12 (all Jewish) diciples.

>[Have you read "The Passover Plot"?  You might want to. --clh]

I did. You've summed up the writers claims quite neatly.  I find this
book a very interesting data collection about the period.  Though some
of his conclusions seems to be quite apart from the historical
background of the 2nd temple society.