rb@cci632.UUCP (10/02/86)
In article <419@unc.unc.UUCP> cm@unc.UUCP (Chuck Mosher) writes: > > >In article something-or-other Ellen Leibman writes: >>In article <379@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes: >>> What people who are >>>against sexist erotica/porn/whatever should be doing, is >>>producing and distributing non-sexist erotica that can take the >>>place of the sexist stuff. >>--Jamie. >>YaH! Here, here! Why can't this seem to be done? I have seen a good number >>of magazines start out that way (notably really old FORUM and later LETTERS) >>but they have all seemed to be unable to stay that way. They end up resorting >>to decidedly male-geared articles, lead stories, cover headlines and all female >>Ellen Leibman > >I may have recommended this before, but it bears repeating. "Yellow Silk" >a "Journal of Erotic Arts", is put out by editor Lily Pond of Albany, CA. I haven't seen this one, but there are several female publishers of feminist erotica. Mostly themes of female dominance. Holly Publications, Centurians, Evelyn Rainbird, and Eros publications are a few of the more moderate. Reflections is more hard core. Most feature the "latest fashions", male "slave" models, couples layouts, and articles written by women. Before anyone flames that this is sexist too. I bring these up as alternatives for people who are offended my male dominance, all female models, and male geared articles.
wendyt@unisoft.UUCP (Wendy Thrash) (10/04/86)
In article <440@cci632.UUCP> rb@ccird2.UUCP (Rex Ballard) writes: >[T]here are several female publishers of feminist >erotica. Mostly themes of female dominance. > >Holly Publications, Centurians, Evelyn Rainbird, and Eros publications are >a few of the more moderate. Reflections is more hard core. > >Most feature the "latest fashions", male "slave" models, couples layouts, >and articles written by women. > >Before anyone flames that this is sexist too. I bring these up as alternatives >for people who are offended my male dominance, all female models, and >male geared articles. Rex, Rex, Rex! Who's kidding whom? Folks, let me draw for a minute on my (ahem) eclectic tastes to clue you in on something: Do the words "SM" (or "S/M" or "S&M" or what have you), "B&D," "dominance and submission," "whips and chains and leather and steel" mean anything to you? Well if so friends, I say we've got Trouble.... Oops, wrong article. Seriously, though, to pretend the Centurians, Evelyn Rainbird, etc. are feminist publications is a bit like pretending that hamburgers are made for the sake of cattle. The magazines described are primarily fetish rags, with a few "articles" thrown in, perhaps because they're cheaper to print than pictures. The notion of the dominant female, in the sense addressed by these publications, remains primarily a male fantasy. Trading one male fantasy for another is not the path to feminism. Mind you, I have nothing in particular against the publications in question; several of my friends have appeared as models in one or another of them. Nevertheless, "Yellow Silk" is feminist erotica; Centurians et. al. are porn, porn, porn. --- If I had a .signature file, it would say something like ...sun!unisoft!wendyt or ...lll-lcc!unisoft!wendyt. Too bad I don't have one.