gooley@uicsl.UUCP (09/17/86)
What's so ordinary about the name Smith? G. K. Chesterton once wrote an essay about the romance and excitement behind the name. Recall what a smith does, especially a blacksmith: pounding red-hot steel into shape. Dull? Prosaic? Hardly. (Chesterton put it much better than I can.) If my name were Smith, I would take great pride in it.
herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) (09/17/86)
In article <3212@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) writes: >My opinion: Only change your name if he'll also change his. In that >case, change both your names to something unrelated to either of you >that you can both agree upon. in Chinese weddings, neither the bride or the groom change their family names. the Anglicised version is often changed just because it is traditional in western societies. my mother's Chinese and Anglicised family names did not change but very few people outside the family know that. to every one she is introduced to, she is Susie Chong. Herb Chong, IBM Research... I'm still user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... (Note: address may disappear after September 22, 1986. stay tuned to net.net-people for any changes.) VNET,BITNET,NETNORTH,EARN: HERBIE AT YKTVMH UUCP: {allegra|cbosgd|cmcl2|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!philabs!polaris!herbie CSNET: herbie%ibm.com@csnet-relay ARPA: herbie@ibm.com, herbie%yktvmh.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu ======================================================================== DISCLAIMER: what you just read was produced by pouring lukewarm tea for 42 seconds onto 9 people chained to 6 Ouiji boards.
robt@molihp.UUCP (Robert L Thurlow) (09/18/86)
I have gone through life with my own name of Robert Thurlow and am quite pleased with it. It is relatively rare, and most people I know with the name are related somehow. There is a Thurlow in the Encyclopedia Brittanica (real a**hole, too :-), and a couple of islands and a town up north of here, plus a street in downtown Vancouver, are named Thurlow. So I wouldn't change my name; why should my SO do so? I think that the name change is something that is anachronistic and not really rational, and I think I would be proud to have an SO who did not want to lose a part of herself for me. On the other hand, if her last name was Smith or Jones or Schattenkirchner, what the hell ... :-) # UUCP : ...!ubc_vision!molihp!robt Robert Thurlow # # My thoughts are my own, and are void where prohibited by law. # # "There was something fishy about the butler. I think he was a # # Pisces, probably working for scale." -Nick Danger, 3rd Eye #
jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (09/19/86)
In article <99800002@uicsl> gooley@uicsl.UUCP writes: > >What's so ordinary about the name Smith? G. K. Chesterton once wrote an >essay about the romance and excitement behind the name. G. K. Chesterton is considered a master of paradox. Jeff Winslow
paul@mba.UUCP (Nuthin' Fancy) (09/19/86)
Consider "DiGiacomo". Consider "Yost". Consider "DiGiacoYost". Consider the fact that it is being considered. paul yost. Keep the spirit aLIVE AID. PS- ...consider the HORROR!
huds@ur-tut.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) (09/27/86)
A few years ago when my sister got married she decided neither to take her spouse's last name nor keep her own but to hyphenate the two. This was due in part to feminist attitudes, and also to the fact that I'm the last Hudson son and I'm not planning on getting married - keep the lineage alive! So now she goes by Hudson-Hankins. We kid her about being a Hudhank, or a Hudkin, or a Hankson but you should see what shows up on junk mail addressing! A. Hudson The last in line...
gordon@cae780.UUCP (Brian Gordon) (09/30/86)
In article <730@ur-tut.UUCP> huds@ur-tut.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) writes: >A few years ago when my sister got married she decided neither to take >her spouse's last name nor keep her own but to hyphenate the two. > [...] >keep the lineage alive! So now she goes by Hudson-Hankins. >We kid her about being a Hudhank, or a Hudkin, or a Hankson but you That always struck me a short-sighted. My spouse and I could have become Troublefield-Gordons, then the children from the families could marry to form Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins. In the meantime, the offspring of the Barton-Smiths and Kelsey_Gonzales (former co-workers) could have married, and eventually, the Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzales-Barton-Smith family's children could look forward to seeing THEIR grandchildren's names ... If you aren't both comfortable with one of the existing names, pick a new one, don't combine the existing ones. FROM: Brian G. Gordon, CAE Systems Division of Tektronix, Inc. UUCP: tektronix!cae780!gordon {ihnp4, decvax!decwrl}!amdcad!cae780!gordon {hplabs, resonex, qubix, leadsv}!cae780!gordon USNAIL: 5302 Betsy Ross Drive/#58137, Santa Clara, CA 95052-8137 AT&T: (408)748-4817 [direct] (408)727-1234 [switchboard]
whitehur@tymix.UUCP (Pamela K. Whitehurst) (10/02/86)
In article <2750@cae780.UUCP> gordon@cae780.UUCP (Brian Gordon) writes: >In article <730@ur-tut.UUCP> huds@ur-tut.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) writes: >>A few years ago when my sister got married she decided neither to take >>her spouse's last name nor keep her own but to hyphenate the two. >> [...] >>keep the lineage alive! So now she goes by Hudson-Hankins. >>We kid her about being a Hudhank, or a Hudkin, or a Hankson but you > >That always struck me a short-sighted. My spouse and I could have become >Troublefield-Gordons, then the children from the families could marry to >form Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins. In the meantime, the offspring of >the Barton-Smiths and Kelsey_Gonzales (former co-workers) could have married, >and eventually, the >Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzales-Barton-Smith family's >children could look forward to seeing THEIR grandchildren's names ... > >If you aren't both comfortable with one of the existing names, pick a new >one, don't combine the existing ones. Unless what you want is a combination of the existing ones... I just can't sit back and let someone preach absolutes about what to do with last names! Next thing you know someone is going to legislate a maximum length (how about 8 characters)! I assume the children will have better sense than to continue the tradition past a reasonable point. They know that Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzalas-Barton-Smith will not fit in a 10 character computer name field (or on the top of a check), but then that may be a reason they would choose to continue the tradition. -- Disclaimer: This is just my responding, with an ambiguous language, to what someone else wrote, in an ambiguous language. At no time did I read anyone's mind to find out what they really meant. Pamela K. Whitehurst ...!hplabs!oliveb!tymix!whitehur ...!sun!idi!tymix!whitehur "Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too."
sandman@bucsb.bu.edu.UUCP (Sandman) (10/03/86)
In article <2750@cae780.UUCP> gordon@cae780.UUCP (Brian Gordon) writes: >In article <730@ur-tut.UUCP> huds@ur-tut.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) writes: >>A few years ago when my sister got married she decided neither to take >>her spouse's last name nor keep her own but to hyphenate the two. >> [...] >>keep the lineage alive! So now she goes by Hudson-Hankins. > >That always struck me a short-sighted. My spouse and I could have become >Troublefield-Gordons, then the children from the families could marry to >form Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins. In the meantime, the offspring of >the Barton-Smiths and Kelsey_Gonzales (former co-workers) could have married, >and eventually, the >Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzales-Barton-Smith family's >children could look forward to seeing THEIR grandchildren's names ... > >If you aren't both comfortable with one of the existing names, pick a new >one, don't combine the existing ones. > The Filipinos (at least my family) has been following a pretty simple tradition. The wife keeps her own maiden name and passes it down to her children. So my mumsy is formally: Maria Loreto Cabangnon Galang. When my sister marries Mr. Kennedy (Boston joke :-) she will become simply Mrs. Gigi Galang Kennedy. I kinda like it. After all, the purpose isn't to keep the entire family tree. Isn't it supposed to simply keep some individuality from your spouse and his/her family? _ Puertorricano (Puerto Rican) friends do the same thing only in reverse the order. My roommate's name on the books is Mr. James-Bernat but he's referred to as Mr. James (his father's name). They probably stole the idea from us :-) -- Dominick M. Cabangnon Galang -- {========================================} + + + "She's dead, Jim" + + + + Dominick M. Galang + + ARPA: sandman!bucsb.edu.bu + + + {========================================}
figmo@lll-crg.ARpA (Lynn Gold) (10/06/86)
In article <2750@cae780.UUCP> gordon@cae780.UUCP (Brian Gordon) writes: >In article <730@ur-tut.UUCP> huds@ur-tut.UUCP (Andrew Hudson) writes: >>A few years ago when my sister got married she decided neither to take >>her spouse's last name nor keep her own but to hyphenate the two. >> [...] >>keep the lineage alive! So now she goes by Hudson-Hankins. >>We kid her about being a Hudhank, or a Hudkin, or a Hankson but you > >That always struck me a short-sighted. My spouse and I could have become >Troublefield-Gordons, then the children from the families could marry to >form Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins. In the meantime, the offspring of >the Barton-Smiths and Kelsey_Gonzales (former co-workers) could have married, >and eventually, the >Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzales-Barton-Smith family's >children could look forward to seeing THEIR grandchildren's names ... > >If you aren't both comfortable with one of the existing names, pick a new >one, don't combine the existing ones. Sometimes the children of such marriages will take matters into their own hands. Let's face it, Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey- Gonzales-Barton-Smith doesn't fit onto an SAT form. :-) I had a friend in college who had a long, nasty, multi-hyphenated name; what she wound up doing was eventually dropping everything from the first hyphen on. --Lynn -- UUCP: ...lll-crg!figmo ARPA: Lynn%PANDA@SUMEX-AIM *********************************************************************** * Any resemblance between my postings and any person, living or dead, * * is purely coincidental. Besides, I'm only a guest user here... * ***********************************************************************
andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (10/08/86)
In article <2750@cae780.UUCP> gordon@cae780.UUCP (Brian Gordon) writes: >... the >Troublefield-Gordon-Hudson-Hankins-Kelsey-Gonzales-Barton-Smith family's >children could look forward to seeing THEIR grandchildren's names ... There's been a bit more discussion on this, so I thought I'd reiterate my favourite solution for the new.netters (I believe this came out of discussions with Jym "Peace-symbol" Dyer). Ms. Troublefield-Gordon \__ Ms. Troublefield-Hankin \ Mr. Hudson-Hankin / (their daughter) \__ M*. Troublefield-Smith / (their offspring) Ms. Kelsey-Gonzales \__ Mr. Kelsey-Smith / Mr. Barton-Smith / (their son) ... that is, the first part of your name is the first part of your mother's name, and the second part is the second part of your father's. Extrapolate this through a few generations and you'll see that the second part works like a patrilineal name, passed down through all-male lines, the same way as our standard last name works. The first part works in exactly the same way for all-female lines, thus working like a matrilineal name. So, if this had been done since the adoption of last names, everyone would have in their names a record of the names of their father, father's father, etc., and mother, mother's mother, etc., back into the deeps of time. You can pretend that this really happened by tracing your roots back to find out the earliest name you can find in your matrilineal line, and then changing your name to <that>-<your current last name>. For example, my mother's mother's mother's mother's last name was Nelson, so I've been thinking about changing my last name to Nelson-Andrews. One alternative is that when you get married, you both change your names to the names your children will have. E.g. when Ms. T-G and Mr. H-H above get married, they change their names to Ms. and Mr. T-H. --Jamie. ...!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews "The candy-coloured clown they call the sandman"