[soc.women] Accosting women on the street

remaker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Phillip A. Remaker) (05/10/88)

>Let he/she among us who has not verbally accosted a woman/man in his/her
>teen-age years, just for the fun of it, cut the first fart in my face.

****LOUD OBNOXIOUS FLATUATION*******


>"Anyone who could consider this "fun" is an incredible asshole"
>-- David desJardins

Yes Nick, you speak for yourself, I see.

>"What is one level of abstraction below an asshole?"
>-- Nick Flor

A sexist asshole.

>+ Disclaimer: The above opinions are my own, not necessarily my employer's.   

That is a good thing, because your employer would lose a lot of business
if these were he opinions.

Nick, it is one thing to have accosted women, but it is an entirely different
thing to parade around saying "Yeah, I'm so cool because I intimidate
women."  I have never accosted a woman on the street in my life because I
was taught that such lewd advances were very rude.  You had no such upbringing,
and society is that much worse off for it.

If you choose to treat women as depersonified objects for your own use and 
abuse AND be proud of it, that is your business.  It is not a very considerate
way to treat your fellow humans.  And if your sole goal is to piss people
off (as evidenced by cross posting such remarks to soc.women), then
move to talk.bizarre where you can commune with your own.

Heres wishing to years of your impotence!

Phillip A. Remaker, B.S.E., E.E., 1989  |  University Of Pennsylvania
remaker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu            |  Sleep Deprivation Experiment 
Moore School of Electrical Engineering  |  Averaging 8 hrs....per week....

nick@hp-sdd.HP.COM (Nick Flor) (05/11/88)

In article <4595@super.upenn.edu> remaker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Phillip A. Remaker) writes:
>
>Nick, it is one thing to have accosted women, but it is an entirely different
>thing to parade around saying "Yeah, I'm so cool because I intimidate
>women."  I have never accosted a woman on the street in my life because I
>was taught that such lewd advances were very rude.  You had no such upbringing,
>and society is that much worse off for it.
>

Phillip, it is one thing to be stupid, and another thing to be brainless.

I suspect you fall into the latter category.  
A) You failed to see the context in which the "accosting" was done.
   (you know, high school, kiddie days, golden years)
B) You failed to see that the point I was trying to make was that
   just because one is subject to verbal abuse is no reason to quake
   in fear.  It may be that the verbal abuser is an adolescent doing
   something silly.
C) You failed to read my other postings which mentioned that I did not
   just verbally abuse women, it was anyone on the street who we
   felt like doing it to.
D) You failed to have a brain by making such sweeping generalizations
   as:  "You had no such upbringing and society is that much worst off
   for it."  Don't make me laugh.

>And if your sole goal is to piss people
>off (as evidenced by cross posting such remarks to soc.women), then
>move to talk.bizarre where you can commune with your own.

Some idiot edited the original header and cross posted to soc.women.
I admit that I was being stupid by not re-editing it myself.
I won't edit out soc.women, because I want to clear the air as
to what the posting was really about.

>Heres wishing to years of your impotence!
At least that's an original statement.

>Phillip A. Remaker, B.S.E., E.E., 1989  |  University Of Pennsylvania

Gee, I thought you had to have some sort of reading comprehension
in order to graduate.

Nick

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+ Disclaimer: The above opinions are my own, not necessarily my employer's.   +
+ Oh, sure. Sure. I'm going. But I got  | Nick V. Flor           * * o * *    +
+ your number, see? And one of these    | Hewlett Packard SDD   * * /I\ * *   +
+ days, the joke's gonna be on you.     | ..hplabs!hp-sdd!nick  * * / \ * *   +

jellinghaus-robert@CS.YALE.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus) (05/13/88)

In article <1273@hp-sdd.HP.COM> nick@hp-sdd.UUCP (Nick Flor) writes:
>In article <4595@super.upenn.edu> remaker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Phillip A. Remaker) writes:
>>Nick, it is one thing to have accosted women, but it is an entirely different
>>thing to parade around saying "Yeah, I'm so cool because I intimidate
>>women."  I have never accosted a woman on the street in my life because I
>>was taught that such lewd advances were very rude.  You had no such upbringing,
>>and society is that much worse off for it.
>
>Phillip, it is one thing to be stupid, and another thing to be brainless.
>
>I suspect you fall into the latter category.
>A) You failed to see the context in which the "accosting" was done.
>   (you know, high school, kiddie days, golden years)

Big fucking deal.  Just because you were young is no excuse for being
an asshole.  Got that?

>B) You failed to see that the point I was trying to make was that
>   just because one is subject to verbal abuse is no reason to quake
>   in fear.  It may be that the verbal abuser is an adolescent doing
>   something silly.

YOU fail to see that the verbal abuser may NOT be doing something silly.
He may be a genuine psychopath.  At LEAST, he's an inconsiderate asshole.

>C) You failed to read my other postings which mentioned that I did not
>   just verbally abuse women, it was anyone on the street who we
>   felt like doing it to.

And you fail to understand that this makes NO DIFFERENCE to how your
obnoxious catcalls affected the women you DID harass.  (How about gays,
Nick?  Ever yell "Hey, faggots!" at a male couple?)

>D) You failed to have a brain by making such sweeping generalizations
>   as:  "You had no such upbringing and society is that much worst off
>   for it."  Don't make me laugh.

You don't know a sweeping generalization from your own asshole.  What
Phillip was simply stating the truth.  You were brought up to be a
shithead, unlike the rest of us, and we are all suffering through your
shit right now.  And all the people you ever harassed suffered through
it, too.  Which, if you are to be believed, is one hell of a lot of
people.  ("It wasn't just women.  We did it to _everybody_.")

>>And if your sole goal is to piss people
>>off (as evidenced by cross posting such remarks to soc.women), then
>>move to talk.bizarre where you can commune with your own.
>
>Some idiot edited the original header and cross posted to soc.women.
>I admit that I was being stupid by not re-editing it myself.
>I won't edit out soc.women, because I want to clear the air as
>to what the posting was really about.

Boy, you're doing a fine job, too.  Shit-for-brains.

>>Phillip A. Remaker, B.S.E., E.E., 1989  |  University Of Pennsylvania
>
>Gee, I thought you had to have some sort of reading comprehension
>in order to graduate.

I thought you had to have a life to be on the net.  Boy, do you ever
prove me wrong.

>+ Disclaimer: The above opinions are my own, not necessarily my employer's.   +
>+ Oh, sure. Sure. I'm going. But I got  | Nick V. Flor           * * o * *    +
>+ your number, see? And one of these    | Hewlett Packard SDD   * * /I\ * *   +
>+ days, the joke's gonna be on you.     | ..hplabs!hp-sdd!nick  * * / \ * *   +

You keep responding, buddy, I'll keep flaming you until enough people
ask us to stop.  Then I'll stop.  Unlike you.

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