@RUTGERS.ARPA:Joseph.Henr@Xerox.ARPA (03/15/85)
From: Brenda <Joseph.Henr@XEROX.ARPA> I second the vote for Leela as favorite. The first time I saw her (it was also one of the first times I saw Dr.Who) she was wearing her "bikini" and all of my feminist instincts were entirely revolted (the comments by the guys watching with me didn't help!). But Leela fast became my favorite. I especially like the way she grows during the episodes. My second favorite is Romana II. I thought that she was the one the Dr. always had a special soft spot for. I liked their relationship. (S.o. mentioned the actress who played her was once Mrs. Tom Baker. Is this true??) My LEAST favorite was Romana I -- obnoxious, know-it-all, -- everything Tom Baker plays with a charming lovableness and grace that makes one forgive all. To me, this actress was entirely lacking, any sympathetic qualities. NOTE: Tom Baker is the only Dr. I've ever seen. I love the character of the Dr., but I was thinking that in real life people with his personality drive me crazy. I can't stand being around them. Has anyone else ever thought about this? Of course, I have never met someone with his superiority complex that actually IS right all of the time and superior in the way TimeLords are to us earthlings. ~Brenda
@RUTGERS.ARPA:milne@uci-icse (03/15/85)
From: Alastair Milne <milne@uci-icse> How could you leave out Sarah Jane Smith !!??!! Introduced on various occasions by the Doctor as "my best friend" (eg, in Seeds of Doom); a journalist; independent and high-spirited; rescued him on a couple of occasions; and, on at least one occasion, blew him a raspberry when she thought he needed it. Nothing like his technical ability (which Romana had), but she at least knew what "proficient" meant (which Leela didn't): a good foil, but not too much of one. I don't have a favourite companion, since there are things about all of them that I like (even Harry, though he was surely one of the most ineffectual), but Sarah is certainly one of the best. (And if you thought the Doctor looked upset when he said "Good-bye, Savage," at the end of Invasion of Time (to Leela), how about his leave-taking of Sarah at the end of Hand of Fear? He was not at all pleased, and neither was she. In fact, I really expected him to come back to pick her up again, after he had finished with Gallifrey. Which shows what I knew of the rest of the series at the time.) Alastair Milne
@RUTGERS.ARPA:phil@rice.ARPA (03/17/85)
From: William LeFebvre <phil@rice.ARPA> > My second favorite is Romana II. I thought that she was the one the > Dr. always had a special soft spot for. I liked their relationship. > (S.o. mentioned the actress who played her was once Mrs. Tom Baker. > Is this true??) The actress' name, by the way, is Lalla Ward. She actually first appeared in "The Armageddon Factor", one episode before Romana regenerated (involving the last segment to the key of time). She is also one of my personal favorites, I guess because her and the Doctor got along so well. And, in fact, after Lalla left the show, Tom Baker and her did get married. Unfortunately, the marriage only lasted about a year because their careers went in different directions (not because of any personal problems). William LeFebvre Department of Computer Science Rice University <phil@Rice.arpa>
percus@acf4.UUCP (Allon G. Percus) (03/20/85)
> By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker?
No, they're not related. (Not to give the impression that 2 out of 6
Britons have Baker as their last name :-)
A. G. Percus
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gayde@ihuxp.UUCP (Peter Gayde) (03/21/85)
>> By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker? > > No, they're not related. (Not to give the impression that 2 out of 6 > Britons have Baker as their last name :-) > A. G. Percus > (ARPA) percus@acf4 > (NYU) percus.acf4 > (UUCP) ...!ihnp4!cmcl2!acf4!percus BUT, Colin Baker does have a son named Tom! -- Peter Gayde AT&T Technologies Naperville, IL ihnp4!{iwslc,ihuxp}!gayde Work: (312) 979-7598 Home: (312) 963-1109
nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (03/22/85)
>>> By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker? >> >> No, they're not related. (Not to give the impression that 2 out of 6 >> Britons have Baker as their last name :-) >> A. G. Percus >> (ARPA) percus@acf4 >> (NYU) percus.acf4 >> (UUCP) ...!ihnp4!cmcl2!acf4!percus > >BUT, Colin Baker does have a son named Tom! Sorry, this is wrong. Colin Baker has only one (living) child. She was born one week ago (15 March) at 8 lb. 11oz. He had fathered a child earlier, but that child succumbed to "cot death" (SIDS). Since that time, Colin and his wife have been in the forefront for fund raising in the UK to fight this disaster. -- James C Armstrong, Jnr. { ihnp4 || allegra || mcnc || cbosgb } !abnji!jca I think he needs more than water, Peri, ay?
gayde@ihuxp.UUCP (Peter Gayde) (03/23/85)
>>>> By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker? >>> >>> No, they're not related. (Not to give the impression that 2 out of 6 >>> Britons have Baker as their last name :-) >> >>BUT, Colin Baker does have a son named Tom! > > Sorry, this is wrong. Colin Baker has only one (living) child. She > was born one week ago (15 March) at 8 lb. 11oz. He had fathered a > child earlier, but that child succumbed to "cot death" (SIDS). > > Since that time, Colin and his wife have been in the forefront for > fund raising in the UK to fight this disaster. > -- > James C Armstrong, Jnr. { ihnp4 || allegra || mcnc || cbosgb } !abnji!jca > > I think he needs more than water, Peri, ay? My information comes from the October 1983 issue of "Whovian Times", the newsletter of the Doctor Who Fan Club of America. The exact quote is: "Baker is presently 40 years young. He is married to actress Marion Wyatt. He has a seven-year-old son (Tom Baker) from his previous marriage to actress Lisa Goddard! This, of course, is not 'the' Tom Baker known as the Doctor, nor are the two related; but yes, it is ironic." I have no idea how accurate this report is, but it seems to come from a reliable source. -- Peter Gayde AT&T Technologies Naperville, IL ihnp4!{iwslc,ihuxp}!gayde Work: (312) 979-7598 Home: (312) 963-1109
@RUTGERS.ARPA:JC595C%GWUVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA (03/24/85)
From: Richard <QU229C%GWUVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA> In response to the many comments about companions Sarah Jane is a popular companion just not one of mine. To me despite her independence, she was boaring. Always screaming and complaining. I like Harry he was resourceful in a number of instances. The ark in Space and Genesis of the Daleks where he saved the Doctor's life twice. Louise Jameson (Leela) stared in a BBC miniseries Tenko that was shown on the ARTS network. It is the story of English women in a Japanese prison camp during WW2. This is very different role than Leela, but is shows Jameson`s versatility as an actress. The Doctor did have a soft spot for Romana 11, she was a kindred spirit. I must disagree with a comment about Adric. Adric was an important factor in all of the Baker shows. In Keeper of Traken his relationship with Nyssa is very important and their sabatoge of the Source was a crucil part of the story. In Logopolis he was of equal importance. Three companions are too many for one Doctor so the show had to get rid of one and unfortunatly they chose Adric. A better choice would have been Tegan whom Adric and Nyssa had to contiually put in her place and who caused nothing but trouble. The Doctor is always upset when a major companion leaves. Sarah Janeand he were forced to part when he was called to Gallifrey. He was unhappywhen Leela left him to marry Andred. He understood that it was better forRomana to stay in E-Space rather than return to Gallifrey, so she could be her own Romana. He remarks to Adric in Logopolis on how much he misses her. Adric's death was especially hard for the Doctor becasue scientificly it was possible for the Doctor to go back in time to save him, but this was one rule he couldn't break. Finnaly when when Tegan left him he remarked that he would have to mend his ways. This dictated his action in the next two stories and caused him to give his life for Peri.