csrdi@its63b.ed.ac.uk (ECTU68 R Innis CS) (10/10/86)
Floyd Offord says (in response to Chris Jone's query) : >A pict or Pict is a Scottish soldier. The Picts (or picts) were actually the inhabitants of much of what is now Scotland in the first millenia AD (and some time before that). They became incorporated into the Scottish nation after Kenneth MacAlpine became king of both the Picts and the Scots (who came over from Ireland in about the fifth century AD), and subsequently seem to have been assimilated by the Scots and the Saxons from the lowlands. At least, that's what I remember from my history books. He goes on to say: >It is possible that the accent might be some garbled Scotch. Firstly, Scotch is a *drink*. (The best in the world). The language, people accent and culture are *Scots* or *Scottish*. Remember that the next time you visit this country (or meet someone from it). Secondly, yes, the accent is Scots. I've got a transcript of most of the second part of the monologue (starting "And then, great Marion took up wi' a claymore...") and will send them to anyone who's that desperate to know. Thirdly, although the song may mention picts in the title and have a crazed monologue in a Scots accent, is Soc.culture.celtic really the place to discuss Pink Floyd lyrics? Apart from the fact that they were Sassenachs anyway, I'd have thought this would be a better forum for questions about seriously Celtic matters, if anyone can believe in such in this day and age. :-) As for the discussions about whether insisting on Scots (or Scottish) is preferable to Scotch, surely that belongs under net.poloitics.scotnat? And as for those who do call us English - anyone ever wondered why full highland dress includes a sgean dhu? --Rick Innis
simon@einode.UUCP (Simon Kenyon) (10/13/86)
> Firstly, Scotch is a *drink*. (The best in the world). The language, people
surely you jest :-)
(a lot of blends use irish whiskey as one of the ingredients)
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In article <182@einode.UUCP> simon@einode.UUCP (Simon Kenyon) writes: >(a lot of blends use irish whiskey as one of the ingredients) You'll have to elucidate this one, Simon! Some of the blends may well use grain spirit that is produced in Ireland, but I dont think thay would get away with using any Irish Malt components. Who drinks blends anyway??? Lindsay
normanh@idec.stc.co.uk (Norman Hilton) (10/15/86)
In article <182@einode.UUCP> simon@einode.UUCP (Simon Kenyon) writes: >> Firstly, Scotch is a *drink*. (The best in the world). The language, people >surely you jest :-) >(a lot of blends use irish whiskey as one of the ingredients) This was not true in the past. The Customs and Excise Act of 1952 defines Scotch whisky and apparently says "... obtained by distillation in Scotland ..." The Report of the Royal Commission on Whiskey and other Potable Spirits in 1909 also defines Scotch and Irish whiskeys similarly. It seems that lesser drinks can contain Scotch or Irish whisk[e]y but cannot call themselves Scotch or Irish whisk[e]y. I personally find some Irish whiskey and some blended Scotch quite acceptable (and some malt whisky not so acceptable). Whisk[e]y drinkers should be guided by their own palates not by rules and jingoism. Regards, Norm ====