marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) (08/27/86)
Every once in awhile, I try to think of the whole universe, of what was there before the Big Bang, and what's there outside of it all. I mean, don't tell me going forever outward will get me back to where I started but I'll know the place for the first time. I'm talking about real knowledge here, absolute knowledge. Physics is about the universe. I'm talking about what's outside the universe. You can't talk about what's outside the universe with tools designed to talk about what's inside. Philosophy won't do it either. We don't need philosophy, we need action. If I want philosophy I'll toss around a frisbee. I intend to play hardball with this problem. And don't any of you religionists climb aboard. I don't care what flavor you are, if [G,g]od didn't fix me so I can get outside the universe, there must be something there I want. So just stay out of the way. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. And don't throw Joachim's razor at me. I'm not shaving until I know the truth. I can carry a lot of stuff in my head, and I don't need some bozo telling me to keep life simple. That's the trouble around here; everybody wants life to be simple. I'm here to tell you, life is not simple. This relativity thing makes me feel like a prisoner in a very smelly place. These idiots in net.space talk about rockets like they can actually use them to go someplace. Give a break here. Interstellar travel is a lot of bunk. Who wants to go someplace if you can't come back? I want to go someplace and then come back, and then go again, and then come back again. And then these clowns in net.sf_lovers or whatever. They talk about the Starship Enterprise like some people talk to their dogs. There is no Starship Enterprise, folks; no warp drive; no transporter beam. There is a Spock, but he's a baby doctor, not a logician with pointy ears and a bad disposition. So you can forget about zipping around the heavans in 'other space' unless you all get up from your stupid terminals and start trying to get your little kiesters outside the universe! I want action! Now! I want to see asses and elbows! You're either with me or against me on this, okay? And I don't want some halfwit resident expert programmer telling me to move this to another news group. I've had it up to here with morons that think C is the best computer language. And I can see them coming a mile away. They walk different, they have no social life, and they think personal computers have practical uses. I don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get outside the universe, there's no point in being inside it. Marty Smith
God@sdcsvax.UUCP (keeper of the inside of the universe) (08/28/86)
In article <3357@ism780c.UUCP> marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes: >with this problem. > >And don't any of you religionists climb aboard. I don't care what flavor you >are, if [G,g]od didn't fix me so I can get outside the universe, there must >be something there I want. So just stay out of the way. If you're not part >of the solution, you're part of the problem. > > >I don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get outside the >universe, there's no point in being inside it. > > Marty Smith Ok, you may leave. -your humble [G,god] ps. personal computers do have a use. i dropped them on your world and had a grand time watching them fall. drop one out of a window sometime it is about the same experience.
ins_aprm@jhunix.UUCP (Paul R Markowitz) (08/28/86)
In article <3357@ism780c.UUCP> marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes: >So you can forget about zipping around the heavans in 'other space' unless >you all get up from your stupid terminals and start trying to get your little >kiesters outside the universe! I want action! Now! I want to see asses and >elbows! [lots and lots of garbage deleted] > Marty Smith I think you were already outside the universe when you posted this, Marty. Or at least outside reality. Or on a very bad trip. Or something. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul Markowitz "A pessimist is someone who won't call on G-d because he is certain he will get an answering machine." seismo!umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_aprm bitnet: ins_aprm at jhuvms arpanet: ins_aprm%jhunix.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA
barnett@im4u.UUCP (Lewis Barnett) (08/28/86)
In article <3357@ism780c.UUCP> marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes: > >I don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get outside the >universe, there's no point in being inside it. > > Marty Smith I have a suggestion: strap on your backpack, lace up your boots, fill up your canteen and start walking. You'll eventually get where you're going, or you'll die on the way. Either way, you won't be bothering us any more. Lewis Barnett,CS Dept, Painter Hall 3.28, Univ. of Texas, Austin, TX 78712 "Frankly, there's something about reality that gives me the shivering willies!" -- Hank the Hallucination -- -- barnett@im4u.UTEXAS.EDU, barnett@im4u.UUCP, {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!im4u!barnett
st94wb@sdcc12.UUCP (wade blomgren) (08/28/86)
Well Marty, gosh I know what you mean. I am dizzy just thinking about it.
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000 light years from home. There
has to be *something* out there. Doesn't there? And that's not even
.000000000000000000000000000000001% of the way there. And when you get there,
you are just getting started. Anyhow, if you come up with some useful tools
for talking about this problem ( I do think it is a problem, and nobody seems
to want to talk about it - I guess that is what religion, drugs, & mental
illness etc are for) let me know. I also want some answers regarding the
ever-present, seldom believed concept popularized by "Pinto" on pot for the
first time in "Animal House"...
'So, like, you mean, like a whole little universe could be
contained in one little electron inside my fingernail...'
By the way, speaking of bizarre, was the guy in Animal House also the guy
who played "Amadeus" ?
Keep thinking those infinite thoughts, but don't get seasick Marty
Wade
...!sdcc12!sd94wbdave@uwmcsd1.UUCP (Dave Rasmussen) (08/29/86)
> > In article <3357@ism780c.UUCP> marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes: > >So you can forget about zipping around the heavans in 'other space' unless >you all get up from your stupid terminals and start trying to get your little >kiesters outside the universe! I want action! Now! I want to see asses and >elbows! > You wanna see asses and elbows? If you wanna see more you might talk to Eric below: >Subject: Revealing clothing >Message-ID: <951@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> >Date: 27 Aug 86 12:22:24 GMT >References: <247@c3pe.UUCP> >Reply-To: eric@batcomputer.UUCP (Eric Fielding) >Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY >Xref: uwmacc net.women:9801 net.rec.nude:731 > >It's that time of year again, all of the undergraduate students are back in >town. As it is still summer, many people are wearing skimpy clothing. Some >women, however, wear clothing that seems to me to be more (less?) than skimpy. >... -- The views above are those of my keyboard, not my organization. Dave Rasmussen c/o Computing Services Division @ U of WI - Milwaukee INTERNET: uwmcsd1!dave@rsch.wisc.edu UUCP: ihnp4!uwmcsd1!dave
awr@panda.UUCP (Andrew W. Rogers) (08/29/86)
>... I also want some answers regarding the >ever-present, seldom believed concept popularized by "Pinto" on pot for the >first time in "Animal House"... > > 'So, like, you mean, like a whole little universe could be > contained in one little electron inside my fingernail...' I believe that concept appeared in "First High Comics" in the National Lampoon many years before Animal House. In fact, quite a bit of AH was recycled from older NL articles; for example, the scene with Pinto, Clorette, and the cartoon angel/devil was "borrowed" from "First Lay Comics". Many years later, John Hughes recycled many of the ideas from his "Today's Teens Talk To Yesterday's Teens" (another NL article) for "Back To The Future". >By the way, speaking of bizarre, was the guy in Animal House also the guy >who played "Amadeus" ? Yes, Pinto and "Amadeus" are one and the same - Thomas Hulce. At least TH was able to break out of the "Pinto" role and do some serious acting; whoever-it-was that played Niedermeyer had to settle for appearing in a Twisted Sister video... AWR
kaufman@nike.uucp (Bill Kaufman) (08/29/86)
In article <3357@ism780c.UUCP> marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes: >I don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get outside the >universe, there's no point in being inside it. > > Marty Smith But, I've BEEN outside the universe! And back! It's just a short PATH ride from NYC. That's right. It's New Jersey. -Annoyingly, Bilbo. ___________________________________________________________________________ / DISCLAIMER: If I had an opinion, do you think I'd let my employers know? \ |E-MAIL: kaufman@orion.arpa or kaufman@orion.arc.nasa.gov | |FLAMES: There are no flames. Re-check your opinions. | |QUOTE: "Ask yourself, What would RANDOLPH SCOTT do?" - Black Bart. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+