richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (12/07/87)
In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: > >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at ^^^^^^^^^ Worst drivers in the world. Except France. >approx. the following speeds. Right lane: 50-55, Center lane: 56-60, >Left lane 61-65. Everything in moving along reasonably well when along >comes some ya-ho flashing their lights and cutting back and forth between >lanes as they try to do 75. Then, as if that isn't bad enough, they try >to defend a position that it is their right to go 75, and everyone else >should pull over (which means slow down) so they drive at whatever speed >they choose. > >I don't think it is suppose to work that way! Who gives a rats ass what you *think*. I did some research, as in call a couple of police stations, and call a few cop friends. to paraphrase: "You are supposed to get the FUCK out of the way of ANYBODY if you are in the #1 lane. Thats why its called the passing lane. Its not the 5 mph faster that the #2 lane, it's the PASSING LANE. If you are doing 70 in the #1 lane, and you obstruct somebody doing 75, you can be cited for obstructing traffic. It is not your place to judge somebody else, as to whether they are going too fast. You are supposed to get into the #1 lane to pass somebody then get out." Got it nitwit ? -- Richard J. Sexton INTERNET: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, ihnp4, nosc}!crash!gryphon!richard "It's too dark to put the keys in my ignition..."
andrea@hp-sdd.UUCP (12/08/87)
In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >Who gives a rats ass what you *think*. I did some research, as in call >a couple of police stations, and call a few cop friends. > >to paraphrase: > > "You are supposed to get the FUCK out of the way of ANYBODY > if you are in the #1 lane. Thats why its called the passing > lane. Its not the 5 mph faster that the #2 lane, it's the > PASSING LANE. If you are doing 70 in the #1 lane, and > you obstruct somebody doing 75, you can be cited for > obstructing traffic. It is not your place to judge > somebody else, as to whether they are going too fast. > You are supposed to get into the #1 lane to pass somebody > then get out." > >Got it nitwit ? Stop, please, we don't need this kind of nastiness on the net! No, I am not trying to play 'net police', I'm just gently asking for a little more friendliness, tolerance, restraint, good manners, humor, whatever. I really do think it's possible to get one's point across without resorting to name-calling like this. If you really can't avoid it (electronic version of Tourette's syndrome? ;@), please have some consideration for the rest of us and use email to wage your wars in private. Andrea Frankel, Hewlett-Packard (San Diego Division) (619) 592-4664 "...like a song that's born to soar the sky" ______________________________________________________________________________ UUCP : ...hplabs!hp-sdd!andrea from {ihnp4|cbosgd|allegra|decvax|gatech|sun|tektronix} or ...hp-sdd!andrea from {hp-pcd|hpfcla|hpda|noscvax|gould9|sdcsvax} Internet : andrea%hp-sdd@ {nosc.mil | sdcsvax.ucsd.edu | hplabs.HP.com} CSNET : andrea%hp-sdd@hplabs.csnet USnail : 16399 W. Bernardo Drive, San Diego CA 92127-1899 USA
chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (12/08/87)
In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: . In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: . > . >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at . >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at . ^^^^^^^^^ . Worst drivers in the world. Except France. Agreed! . . Who gives a rats ass what you *think*. I did some research, as in call . a couple of police stations, and call a few cop friends. Watch it here, folks...he's got friends. . "You are supposed to get the FUCK out of the way of ANYBODY . if you are in the #1 lane. Thats why its called the passing . lane. Its not the 5 mph faster that the #2 lane, it's the . PASSING LANE. If you are doing 70 in the #1 lane, and . you obstruct somebody doing 75, you can be cited for . obstructing traffic. It is not your place to judge . somebody else, as to whether they are going too fast. . You are supposed to get into the #1 lane to pass somebody . then get out." First of all it's NOT called "The Passing Lane"...it's simply called the #1 lane. There are passing lanes out there, but they are specifically called "passing lane"(s) by virtue of the signs along the road stating such. You've also missed the point of the article you've responded to in such a unique manner. Yes, those little black and white signs that say "Slower Traffic Keep Right" mean what they say, and, when ignored, are cause for cites. HOWEVER what was meant in the original posting was that when EVERYBODY is doing 40 (THAT'S optomistic) regardless of lane, anybody trying to blast by at 70 does not have that "right"...in fact I'd drop a rag on the idiot for too fast for conditions, speeding, reckless, unsafe lane change, and anything else I could think of. Also, if you are in the process of passing someone via the #1 lane and someone comes blazing up behind you insisting that you pass at 80 instead of 65, that person is in the wrong. You are obliged to move right, but ONLY when it is safe to do so. . Got it nitwit ? Ditto. Sto lat; Chip ,, *** SOLIDARNOSC *** PS If you really want to carry this on, at least give the net a break and respond via e-mail...my path is a good one...know how to handle it? -- Chip Kozy (415) 939-2400 @ Varian 2700 Mitchell Dr. Walnut Creek, Cal. 94598 ...!ptsfa!varian!vaxwaller!chip
matt@oddjob.UUCP (12/09/87)
Richard Sexton, I don't believe you. I don't have any made-up facts or phoney surveys of my own to wave in front of the world, but I just plain don't believe that what you say is true. Matt
awr@tybalt.caltech.edu (Bruce Rossiter) (12/09/87)
matt@oddjob.UChicago.EDU (Stop calling me Fred) writes: >Richard Sexton, I don't believe you. I don't have any made-up facts >or phoney surveys of my own to wave in front of the world, but I just >plain don't believe that what you say is true. > > Matt Well, then, you're wrong. The first (and only!) time I got a ticket in CA, the "friendly" judge took it upon himself to make sure I knew CA freeway rules (since I had an out-of-state license, I expect). In *any* lane but the far right, you *must* make way for a car that wishes to go faster, NO MATTER WHAT SPEED you are going. He specifically said: "If you are going 80 mph, and some idiot wants to do 100 mph in that lane, you legally must change lanes and permit him to do so. Failure to do so is a violation of California traffic law, and you can be cited for obstructing traffic." Now, I doubt you'll get a ticket for it, since if there is a police officer around, he's gonna go for the speeder. :-) -Bruce ---------- ARPAnet awr@tybalt.caltech.edu BITNET awr@caltech.BITNET UUCP {amdahl,rutgers}!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!awr
melska@homxc.UUCP (The IT Girl) (12/09/87)
In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: > Who gives a rats ass what you *think*. I did some research, as in call > a couple of police stations, and call a few cop friends. > to paraphrase: > > "You are supposed to get the FUCK out of the way of ANYBODY > if you are in the #1 lane. Thats why its called the passing > lane. Its not the 5 mph faster that the #2 lane, it's the > PASSING LANE. If you are doing 70 in the #1 lane, and > you obstruct somebody doing 75, you can be cited for > obstructing traffic. It is not your place to judge > somebody else, as to whether they are going too fast. > You are supposed to get into the #1 lane to pass somebody > then get out." > > Got it nitwit ? Why, Richard... methinks that jersey girl should taketh thou back to bed for a royal screwing... i.e., CALM DOWN! Thank you very much. melska [we'll beat you up if ya make us annoyed] lee
matt@oddjob.UChicago.EDU (I am not a Grook) (12/10/87)
Bruce, why should I believe you either? Matt
spike@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Spike) (12/11/87)
In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: >In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: >. > >. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at >. ^^^^^^^^^ >. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. > > Agreed! Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- ->Spike
legare@ut-emx.UUCP (BoB teCh) (12/11/87)
In article <17277@bu-cs.BU.EDU>, spike@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Spike) writes: > In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: > >In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: > >. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: > >. > > >. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at > >. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at > >. ^^^^^^^^^ > >. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. > > > > Agreed! > > > Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- > ->Spike now wait.... perhaps you didn't get the "Boston Driving Guide" in your mailbox.. it's only got one rule: "Don't look at any other cars." simple. you see, the logic is this: if you aren't looking at any other cars, obviously you aren't aware of them, and they are obliged to let you merge/turn/stop/whatever if you look at any other cars, then YOU HAVE SEEN THEM and they don't have to do a damn thing to help you get by. see how much easier your driving will be if you follow this simple rule yer gonna thank me for it :r .signature
paulson@udel.EDU (Bruce Paulson) (12/11/87)
In article <17277@bu-cs.BU.EDU> spike@bu-it.UUCP (Joe Ilacqua) writes: >In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: >>In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >>. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: >>. > >>. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >>. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at >>. ^^^^^^^^^ >>. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. > > Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- I don't know about Bad drivers but the ugliest drivers come from Newark, NJ. Of course, If we are just talking about ugly then English women take the rag. Bruce
tdonahue@lf-server-2.BBN.COM (Tim Donahue) (12/12/87)
In article <17277@bu-cs.BU.EDU> spike@bu-it.UUCP (Joe Ilacqua) writes: >In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: >>In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >>. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: >>. > >>. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >>. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at >>. ^^^^^^^^^ >>. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. >> >> Agreed! > > > Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- >->Spike Wake up, Spike. Boston, the Hub of the universe, has the best drivers in the universe. Here every driver is continuously and acutely aware of the only two reasons people get in their cars in the first place: 1) to go somewhere, or 2) to go nowhere. In case 1, Ensure Forward Progress is the general goal. Two primary strategies are used: Drive as fast as possible to keep ahead of the next bozo (trying not to flatten pedestrians whilst within Cambridge city limits), or Get Out of the Fucking Way. Simple, even for MIT EE graduates who also happen to fail the TOEFL test. In case 2, you're just Out For A Ride. Driving as fast as possible is the way to maximize the fun of being Out For A Ride. Since everyone wants to have as much fun as possible while going nowhere, they drive as fast as possible while going nowhere. That's why EVERY car stopped in Burlington on 128 has the radio on, tuned to NPR and laughing at what Ron's done for the day, or to WBCN which is playing great tunes. You want bad driving? STUPID, IGNORANT, DISCOURTEOUS, SLOW driving, usually in beat up cars? Go to northeast New Jersey. That is the worst. Yours, Tim
hdunne@amethyst.ma.arizona.edu (Hugh :-) (12/12/87)
In article <295@ut-emx.UUCP> legare@ut-emx.UUCP (BoB teCh) writes: }In article <17277@bu-cs.BU.EDU>, spike@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Spike) writes: }> In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: }> >In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: }> >. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: }> >. > }> >. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at }> >. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at }> >. ^^^^^^^^^ }> >. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. }> > }> > Agreed! }> }> }> Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- }> ->Spike } }now wait.... perhaps you didn't get the "Boston Driving Guide" in your }mailbox.. } } }it's only got one rule: } }"Don't look at any other cars." Actually there are a few more rules than that. For example: [1] Every other driver is your enemy. This is rule #1 - never forget it. [2] It's okay to go the wrong way down a one-way street provided you drive in reverse. (Corollary: If you miss your exit on the S.E. Expressway, just go on to the entrance ramp and reverse down it.) [3] Never give signals (except the finger, which is mandatory). It only gives information away to the enemy. [4] Each red light and stop sign is a test. If you stop, you've failed. [5] If you can't get Tip O'Neill to fix your traffic tickets, you are NOBODY and you might as well move back to wherever you came from. Hugh Dunne | ...{cmcl2,ihnp4,seismo!noao}!arizona!amethyst!hdunne Dept. of Math. | Phone: | {amethyst.ma.arizona.edu} Univ. of Arizona | +1 602 621 4766 | hdunne@{ arizrvax.bitnet } Tucson AZ 85721 | +1 602 621 6893 | { rvax.ccit.arizona.edu }
eap@bucsb.UUCP (Eric Pearce) (12/13/87)
In article <367@lf-tdonahue.BBN.COM> tdonahue@BBN.COM (Donahue) spews forth: >In article <17277@bu-cs.BU.EDU> spike@bu-it.UUCP (Joe Ilacqua) writes: >>In article <1288@vaxwaller.UUCP> chip@vaxwaller.UUCP (Chip Kozy) writes: >>>In article <2507@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >>>. In article <888@plx.UUCP> jeffh@plx.UUCP (Jeff Huntington) writes: >>>. > >>>. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >>>. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at >>>. ^^^^^^^^^ >>>. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. >>> Agreed! >> Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- >>->Spike > >Wake up, Spike. Boston, the Hub of the universe, has the best drivers blah - blah ... >You want bad driving? STUPID, IGNORANT, DISCOURTEOUS, SLOW driving, >usually in beat up cars? Go to northeast New Jersey. That is the worst. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well you got that right. I was driving to Newark Airport and passed a beat-up Mercury Monarch with the front right-hand side door in the back seat. The lady driving it was cruising along at 60 with no seatbelt, entirely exposed to the air on the side. -- @-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@-@ UUCP !harvard!bu-cs!bucsb!eap ARPANET eap@bucsb.bu.edu CSNET eap%bucsb@bu-cs
hrlaser@gryphon.CTS.COM (Harv Laser) (12/15/87)
In article <1327@bucsb.UUCP> eap@bucsb.UUCP (Eric Pearce) writes: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Well you got that right. I was driving to Newark Airport and passed a beat-up >Mercury Monarch with the front right-hand side door in the back seat. The >lady driving it was cruising along at 60 with no seatbelt, entirely exposed to >the air on the side. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hey, doesn't this kind of talk belong in rec.nude? -- Harv Laser - Chairman (sysop) The AmigaZone PeopleLink: CBM*HARV UUCP: {ihnp4!crash, hplabs!hp-sdd!crash}!gryphon!Harv.Laser INET: Harv.Laser@gryphon.CTS.COM
pz@apple.UUCP (Peter Zukoski) (12/15/87)
> > >. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at > > >. ^^^^^^^^^ > > >. Worst drivers in the world. Except France. > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- > > ->Spike So has any of you ever driven in India? Try it sometime (maybe one of the calmer cities like Delhi to start with.) They have there what is called the Karmic Law of Driving. That is, if i hit you, you must have done something to deserve it. If i don't, then you didn't. Sooo, everyone just ignores any rules. Chalk it all up to Karma (fate). Makes for a real interesting environment. -- peterz -------------------------------------------------------- I demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty! CSNET: pz@apple UUCP : {sun,voder,nsc,dual}!apple!pz SNAIL: 20525 Mariani MS/4Z Cupertino CA 95014 BELL : (408)973-2920 / (408)280-5153
dph@pbhyc.UUCP (Doug Halloran) (12/16/87)
>>>. >The key here is "Normal flow of traffic" A very common situation (at >>>. >least in the Bay area) is for three lanes of traffic to be moving at >>>. ^^^^^^^^^ >> Bad drivers? HA! Have you ever tried to drive in Boston?-- >usually in beat up cars? Go to northeast New Jersey. That is the worst. Au Contraire: The ABSOLUTE Worse Drivers in the entire world are in Los Angeles. First of all, EVERYONE is stoned or drunk or both. Secondly, they are all in this state illegally so they are paranoid to boot. Lastly, they all pack weapons and shoot each other if they don't get out of the way. Come to thing of it, maybe shooting each other isn't such a bad idea. Doug
eap@bucsb.UUCP (Eric Pearce) (12/16/87)
In article <2586@gryphon.CTS.COM> hrlaser@gryphon.CTS.COM (Harv Laser, The Redondo Beach Bum) spews forth: >In article <1327@bucsb.UUCP> eap@bucsb.UUCP (Eric Pearce) writes: >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ so ? >>Well you got that right. I was driving to Newark Airport and passed a beat-up >>Mercury Monarch with the front right-hand side door in the back seat. The >>lady driving it was cruising along at 60 with no seatbelt, entirely exposed to >>the air on the side. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > hey, doesn't this kind of talk belong in rec.nude? hey, doesn't this kind of talk belong in net.douchebags? >Harv Laser - Chairman (sysop) The AmigaZone -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UUCP !harvard!bu-cs!bucsb!eap ARPANET eap@bucsb.bu.edu CSNET eap%bucsb@bu-cs
ebm@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Grady Toss) (12/16/87)
In article <892@pbhyc.UUCP> dph@pbhyc.UUCP (Doug Halloran) writes: > The ABSOLUTE Worse Drivers in the entire world are in > Los Angeles. Finally! The end-all opinion for this discussion. "The drivers in the Bay Area are terrible!" "The drivers in Los Angeles are worse." "Have you ever been to Paris? The drivers there are the worst!" "The drivers in Los Angeles are worse." "Boston! The drivers there are crazy!" "The drivers in Los Angeles are worse." "How about Iowa? Those farmers are used to tractors and..." "The drivers in Los Angeles are worse." "Florida! Blue haired LOL's who can't see over the dashboards..." "The drivers in Los Angeles are worse." ... gt
dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) (12/17/87)
In article <7004@apple.UUCP> pz@apple.UUCP (Peter Zukoski) writes: >So has any of you ever driven in India? Try it sometime (maybe one of the >calmer cities like Delhi to start with.) In India there is no well-defined concept of right-of-way. When turning right (since you're driving on the left) you turn as soon as the chance of not having an accident appears to exceed the chance of having one. Oncoming traffic thus needs to be careful to stay out of your way. Lane changes need not be signalled and seldom are. Posted speed limits can usually be safely ignored. Green means go, red means stop, and yellow (actually amber) means speed up. In short, most Americans will feel right at home :-) -- Rahul Dhesi UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee,uunet}!bsu-cs!dhesi
laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton) (12/17/87)
I am reminded of the Ecuadorian rule for driving in mountainous areas. ``Everybody wants a good view of the cliffs.'' To maximise the view, all drivers drive in the outermost lane when cruising around blind turns at 85 mph. Of course, I haven't driven in Ecuador enough to know whether this is a true law, or whether I just got a very bad day... -- It's the things that are useful in slaves that computers are really bad at. Laura Creighton uunet!hoptoad!laura utzoo!hoptoad!laura sun!hoptoad!laura toad@toad.com
seidel@skat.usc.edu (Starman) (12/18/87)
In article <1702@bsu-cs.UUCP> dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) writes: >[In India,...] >Green means go, red means stop, and yellow (actually amber) means speed >up. Well, here in America, it's slightly different. Green means "go," yellow means "go faster," and red means "turn left." >Rahul Dhesi UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee,uunet}!bsu-cs!dhesi ------- More useless gibberish from... | Michael Seidel -S-tarman seidel@skat.usc.edu | (for those wondering, skat is the ------- name of a faint star in Aquarius)
ugfailau@sunybcs.uucp (Fai Lau) (12/18/87)
In article <5781@oberon.USC.EDU> seidel@skat.usc.edu (Starman) writes: > >Well, here in America, it's slightly different. Green means "go," yellow >means "go faster," and red means "turn left." > Here in my dictionary, it's rather amusing. I've tried it, and it's fun!!! Green means"go," yellow means "go faster," and red means "make a right turn if you're in front, then make a U turn on the cross street, and then make another right turn, continue wheeling. If you're behind some other cars, just turn right and get to the parking lot at the corner (if there's one), exit at the cross stret, make a right and continue going." Should watch the expression of the other drivers when you're doing this while there isn't a single car in the cross street and all the other drivers have to wait for the green light! Fai Lau SUNY at Buffalo (The Arctic Wonderland) UU: ..{rutgers|ames}!sunybcs!ugfailau BI: ugfailau@sunybcs INT: ugfailau@cs.buffalo.EDU
bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (12/18/87)
Very close, but let me make a few corrections about Boston driving: >[1] Every other driver is your enemy. This is rule #1 - never forget it. Correct, perhaps you're too soft, every other driver is plotting to get you. You *know* they purposely slow down in front of you when approaching a green light to make sure you miss it etc, that kind of thing. >[2] It's okay to go the wrong way down a one-way street provided you drive >in reverse. (Corollary: If you miss your exit on the S.E. Expressway, just go >on to the entrance ramp and reverse down it.) You miss the point, it's not necessary to be in reverse. One-way streets in Boston can be ignored as a concept since in all likelihood you are only going one way, forward. Every true Boston driver knows this. >[3] Never give signals (except the finger, which is mandatory). It only >gives information away to the enemy. Absolutely correct, if anyone is ever in Boston I would be glad to show how correct this is, I often signal just to amuse myself at the vicious things people will do in response. Giving the wrong signal is sometimes a reasonable thing to do. >[4] Each red light and stop sign is a test. If you stop, you've failed. Again you miss the real point. In Boston anyone slowing down to below 30MPH is considered to be at a full stop. >[5] If you can't get Tip O'Neill to fix your traffic tickets, you are >NOBODY and you might as well move back to wherever you came from. There are a few other pols who can take care of this for you, but you have the right idea. -B
bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (12/18/87)
One of my favorites was being driven around Egypt at night with the lights off, sometimes in a pitch black desert. If you asked why they would say "to save electricity". Hey, there's no accounting for taste.