[talk.bizarre] Christmas

nyssa@terminus.UUCP (The Prime Minister) (12/23/87)

A word about the newsgroups:

soc.singles:  Where I happened into this discussion
talk.religion.misc:  A cross post (initial)
talk.bizarre: A cross post (initial)
soc.women:  Later articles were cross posted here.
alt.flame:  Later articles were also cross posted here.
att.workplace:  There is a discussion about Christmas going here, too.

My machine only gets soc.singles and att.workplace from the above group.

All followups are directed to talk.religion.misc.


This discussion got my attention from a discussion titled "How to keep
JW (Jehovah's Witnesses) off your back".  It contained several amusing
ideas on what to do when they come knocking at your door.  I did not
partake in this discussion, although I did read it.

One user posted a comment that atheists were more intolerant than
any religion.  I took offense to that comment, and said so.  I also
suggested some possible changes to society to reduce the overwhelming 
Christian culture which may oppress those who are not Christian.  
They were (1) Removing the clause "under God" from the pledge of
allegience.  (2) Removing Christmas from the set of National holidays.

For these suggestions I have been flamed, claiming that I am intolerant.

I guess my lack of tolerance comes from the fact that I am not willing
to let the majority dictate to me when I do and do not have my holidays.
So be it.  If people view that as tolerance, then I am glad that I am
intolerant, and would encourage others to show similar intolerance!

Alas, here, they lock up the building Thursday at 12 noon or so, and
don't unlock it until Saturday.  This is not done for other holidays,
so the idea of making a deal with supervision to work Friday for a
day off later is no good.  I have to take Friday off, whether I want
to or not.

Of course, I can accept the argument that it has become a cultural
rather than religous holiday.  I may not like it, but I'll bet that
there are many people who don't like other holidays as well.  BUT,
if it is secular, let me suggest changing the name of the holiday 
from Christmas to something more appropriate.  (Feast of Mammon,
perhaps?)

I do not want to prevent anyone from excercising their religion as
they so choose.  I object to being forced to "celebrate" that
day with them.


Actually, an aspect of my utopia would include the elimination of
all mandatory days off, and replace them with the floating days
to compensate.  That way, a member of any religion can take the days
needed without prejudice.  People who want to work through a holiday
can, and use the holiday more productively later.

I know this will never happen.  (Although one company I know does
practice that; they're not hiring.)

I'm sorry about wasting your time, I just wanted to clear the air.