barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) (10/01/86)
From: gkm@ho95e.UUCP (Gary McNees): >Should I attempt to convince you >or someone else who is not a Christian of the truth of Christianity, >I would use an entirely different approach. It is referred to as a >presuppositional argument. If is best presented by a Christian >named Cornelius Van Till. In essence, it shows that there are >really only two positions: the Christian one and the non-Christian >one. Next, each position is presupposed as being the truth, and >tested as to its ability to explain reality. Could you expand on this? Especially the part about there really only being two positions. I've noticed this as a hidden premise in some pro-Xian arguments, but I've never seen it properly defended. - From the Crow's Nest - Kenn Barry NASA-Ames Research Center Moffett Field, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ELECTRIC AVENUE: {ihnp4,vortex,dual,hao,hplabs}!ames!barry
daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (10/07/86)
>...In essence, it shows that there are really only two positions: the >Christian one and the non-Christian one. Wrong, wafer-breath! Sounds more like, "really only two positions: the correct one (mine) and the incorrect one (yours)". Seems to me you've left out the positions of many other forms of religion and non-religion. 'Course, you can draw line anywhere you like, but done in this fashion they as useless as an undrawn line. -- ============================================================================ Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh "Techno-Hippie, heathen, designing evil computers" These opinions are my own, though if you try them out, and decide that you really like them, a small donation would be appreciated.