gsmith@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP (10/23/87)
In article <1091@puff.wisc.edu> mading@puff.wisc.edu (Eric Mading) writes: Hey you! Yes, I mean you--the slob snoozing over your terminal. You don't think anything interesting is happening, but you are wrong: a new Net Bozo is in town. While I wait for the cheering to die down, I submit for your attention that this same Eric Mading has been posting on the subject of illegal drugs without taking the trouble to learn anything about them. He now follows this display of colossal ignorance with a demonstation of stupifying hypocrisy: >No Christian denomination should marry gay couples, whether the >law recognizes it or not. The Bible clearly states the sin of >homosexuality. And no Christian church should be condoning sin. Well isn't that special! But since we are entitled to our opinions, one might be inclined to let it go, except that: (1) I just looked at the "newsgroups" line and I see that "soc.motss" is included. Does your Christian duty to "go the extra mile" include a special effort to act like a jerk in groups where you will hardly be welcome? May we expect you in soc.culture.jewish next? (2) And the reason I began this flame: >I do not approve of homosexuality because it is not natural. This might be a suitable topic for talk.philosophy.misc, but first you would need to examine the concept of "natural" and then defend the "natural law" position that 'unnatural' => 'morally wrong'. But since your long suits seem to this observer to be ignorance and stupidity, I don't expect anything rational or even coherent in this direction. >I just don't want any gay men to try to pick me up because I am >straight. Would it be better if they picked you up because you are a fool? It would appear more likely. >But if any women want to pick me up, feel free to do so. First you go on about morality and how the Bible says that those nasty gays are soooo bad. Then you try to pick up girls right here on the Usenet. Bob, give me slack! What kind of a Christian ARE you??? You better go back and re-read your Bible, bub. Check out the stuff on religious hypocrites. Very heavy dude, Jesus. You might want to learn a little bit about him sometime. > Just reply to this article and give me your name, address via >email (mine is mading@puff.wisc.edu, I think) and slow-mail, and >your telephone number. You forgot to add she should give her breast size, religion, political position, height, weight... but no! Look below. >For reasons of confidentiality, I will >not post my slowmail address, nor will I post my telephone >number, and I will not give them out to any woman who is going >to post them on this net. Well, I guess this makes sense. Otherwise, all the gays would call up trying to date you; right, Mr. Irresistable? >Eric Mading >Age: 22 >A senior at UW-Madison, majoring in Computer Science. >6' 1 1/2" tall, weight NOYB. More worthless personal drivel follows, posted everywhere and anywhere. This guy really thinks he is God's Own belly-button lint or something. Sheesh! I guess the people who are wondering if undergraduates should even be allowed to post might be on to something. >Women who want to reply and get to know me better should be at least 5' 5", >non-smoking, non-illicit-drug-using, moderate or to the right of it (not >extreme right-wing), and I would prefer Protestants to Catholics, Christians >to Jews, Jews to all other religions (not extreme Jewish, I won't convert). >You don't have to be pretty or have large breasts, although that might help. Women who are dumb enough to want to get involved with an ape like this are pretty rare, I would hope. A word of advice, Eric: post this kind of slop in soc.singles, OK? ucbvax!garnet!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/Garnetgangster/Berkeley CA 94720 "What is algebra exactly? Is it those three-cornered things?" J.M. Barrie
aeusesef@csun.UUCP (11/02/87)
In article <1186@puff.wisc.edu> mading@puff.wisc.edu (Eric Mading) writes: >In article <1912@killer.UUCP>, jfh@killer.UUCP (The Beach Bum) writes: >> [TBB writes some stuff about natural and homosexuality] [Nice, calm response, btw. Congrats] [I was going to delete this line, too, but it supports my comment later too well] >Actually, homosexual desires are natural. The desire for homosex comes from >Satan, while the desire for heterosex comes from God. I've got to admit, normally I wouldn't like to see someone like Eric posting. However, since I've see his postings, I've unsubscribed from rec.humor. Congratulations, Eric, you are one of the most amusing morons I've ever heard from. Why don't you do an encore of, say, jumping in front of a truck? >Eric Mading. >Disclaimer: My views are independent of the University's. Praised be whatever is holy. I still think he's an excercise in artificial stupidity. Sean Eric Fagan Office of Computing/Communications Resources (213) 852 5742 Suite 2600 1GTLSEF@CALSTATE.BITNET 5670 Wilshire Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90036 {litvax, rdlvax, psivax, hplabs, ihnp4}!csun!aeusesef
dlt@csun.UUCP (11/02/87)
In article <866@csun.UUCP> aeusesef@csun.UUCP (Sean Eric Fagan) writes: >In article <1186@puff.wisc.edu> mading@puff.wisc.edu (Eric Mading) writes: >>In article <1912@killer.UUCP>, jfh@killer.UUCP (The Beach Bum) writes: >[TBB writes some stuff about natural and homosexuality] >[Nice, calm response, btw. Congrats] >Congratulations, Eric, you are one of the most amusing morons >I've ever heard from. Why don't you do an encore of, say, jumping in front >of a truck? However much I might agree with Sean, I really don't think it's appro- priate to call someone a moron on the net and suggest that they jump in front of a truck! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and be allowed to express it in the proper forum. Simply because we do not agree with what he says does not give us the right to condemn him and suggest that he commit suicide. Perhaps if people will simply ignore him (and those like him) he'll get tired and go away. We should not deny others the rights we expect for ourselves (though I don't imagine soc.religion (or whatever it's called) has a similar problem with motssers in their newsgroup :-)). To Mr. Madding, I say: DESIST!! (PLEASE!!!) -- Dave Thompson uucp: {ihnp4|hplabs|psivax}!csun!dlt CSUN Computer Center phone: (818) 885-2790 18111 Nordhoff Street, Northridge, CA 91330
dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (11/05/87)
[A lot of criticism of Eric Mading, who says the Bible says
homosexuality is wrong]
It sounds like you are all trying to blame the bearer of the bad news
for the bad news itself. A more consistent stand would be to blame the
Bible for saying the ridiculous things, instead of reacting as if Eric
Mading made them up.
If you don't agree with what the Bible says, why not face up to that
fact and reject it? There are plenty of religious and non-religious
options--choose one you're comfortable with.
On the other hand, if you choose to adopt the Bible as your source of
guidance, it seems a bit contradictory to flame Mr. Mading, who appears
to have made the same choice.
Follow-ups to talk.religion.misc, please.
--
Rahul Dhesi UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee,uunet}!bsu-cs!dhesidrascic@ecf.UUCP (11/10/87)
In article <867@csun.UUCP> dlt@csun.UUCP (Dave Thompson) writes: >However much I might agree with Sean, I really don't think it's appro- >priate to call someone a moron on the net and suggest that they jump >in front of a truck! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and be allowed >to express it in the proper forum. I've thought about this alot, and I came to the conclusion that this is wrong. People are not entitled to just any opinion. They are only entitled to have informed, well-thought-out opinions. For those topics about which they are ignorant, whether by choice or by lack of exposure, they must refrain from forming an opinion (or, at least, be willing to admit that the opinion that they have is nothing but a guess). People who are ignorant about a topic, and yet insist on holding strong opinions about those topics are basically liars. They claim knowledge they don't have, logic they've never explored. This then leads to a discussion about how much one must look into a topic before being "informed". There are, as usual, no easy answers. But you can bet that you at least have to consider the topic from more than one point of view! Especially if that point of view is not based on facts, but on other ignorant opinions, such as those of many religious leaders. Since our dearly departed (from this newsgroup (hopefully)) friend Eric Mading only considered the question of homosexuality from his particular brand of Christianity's point of view, I feel safe in saying that his opinion is ignorant, and that he therefore does not have a right to hold this opinion. However, it would be illogical for us to conclude from this single example of Eric's bahaviour that he is a moron. One the other hand, we are justified in concluding that he can lie, since he claimed knowledge and thought he doesn't possess. As to whether or not this means he should through himself in front of a truck, well, I am too ignorant of that topic to hold a valid opinion, so I will express none. David Drascic drascic@ecf.toronto.edu University of Toronto. ============================================================================= All opinions stated above are subject to change, as new facts and better logic comes to light. Feel free to disagree, but only if you can explain why.