[talk.philosophy.misc] Reverse causality, Causality.

carrier@brahms (Stephen Carrier) (11/08/86)

Regarding causality and reverse causality, isn't any kind of causality
an illusion? I assume that causality is a manifestation of entropy
increase.

The arrow of time. What is it anyways? All nonstatistical laws of
physics are symmetric under time reversal. The statistical laws,
actually, are symmetrical, also, but they don't seem to apply in the
reverse direction, because, in typical applications, some `scientist'
(speaking loosely), creates an unusual situation of low entropy and
watches it evolve into high entropy, where statistical mechanics
suggests it should be.  So the question is not why does entropy
increase, but why isn't it already at the maximum? The universe
apparently began as a system of very low entropy. If the state of the
universe in the future is preordained (Remember, causality is bunk, so
why not? It's only twice as outrageous as the fact that the universe
exists at all.) to have low entropy, then eventual entropy increase is
inevitable.  In fact, the backwards evolution of this `preordained'
state should obey the familiar laws, except in reverse.  We are riding
a wave of entropy away from the beginning of the universe.  Maybe alien
intelligence is/will be riding a wave in the reverse direction from the
end of time, although to them, we would be in their future, although
moving backwards.

Between our realm and their realm, there would probably be a realm of
very high entropy, where the universe would consist of a very thin gas,
and there would be no phenomena that distinguish one direction of time
from another.

At least globally. Perhaps there will be local arrows of time, which
disagree with each other. Is communication possible between
intelligences with opposing arrows of time? John Brunner (in the novel
"The Wrong End of Time") and Martin Gardner have considered these
questions. The physisist and science-fiction writer Gregory Benford has
considered the possibility and possible consequences of communication
backwards in time in his novel "Timescape".

If causality it bunk, then maybe time travel is possible, after all.
Read Benford's novel for a resolution of the practical paradoxes via
the many-possible worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.

It's something to think about. I think this is consistent with known
physical theory.

ucbvax!brahms!carrier	Stephen Carrier/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720
"Riding the entropy wave,...Wow! Tubular!"  -surfer in the universe.