[net.sf-lovers] Native Tongue review

bill@milford.UUCP (bill) (04/25/85)

This might be old -- the book has a date of August 1984. Sorry if it
was discussed before.


_Native_Tongue_'s author has a doctorate in Linguistics and the
story seems to reflect much current Language Theory. The main area
of action, however, is the war between the sexes - an imagined 25th
amendment to the Constitution is given as "No female citizen of the
United States shall be allowed to serve, to participate in any
capacity in the scholarly or scientific professions, to hold
employment ... The natural limitations of women being a clear and
present danger ...."

Within this world of religious fanaticism and sexual oppression, the
earth has somehow made contact with various alien races and there is
a need to make linguistic contact and understanding with these
races. One solution is to "interface" infants (male and female) to
the "aliens in residence (AIRIES)", to have the infants absorb the
aliens' languages and cultures. New concepts foreign to the normal
earthly-thought-forms can arise and provide for widening of the
earth's perspective. The mainstream of the plot is that the women
linguists (those who had been interfaced as infants to AIRIES)
develop their own language "Laadan" and become 'alien' to their male
oppressors.

I noted (or imagined -- my own background is Math and Comp Sci) a
number of tie-ins to Chomsky and (French) Structuralism: that the
human mind is structured toward particular grammars and 'reality' is
structured to accord with these grammars. What would happen when
humans encounter aliens whose minds are structured differently?
Could communication occur? Would there be changes (permanent?) in
the Weltanschauung of both sides? Would humans who could communicate
become 'alien'? These questions are raised as side thoughts in
_Native_Tongue_ and are indeed quite thought provoking.

Another side-idea presented but not explicitly followed up is: what
is the perception of the alien who is maintained so to impress its
language upon an infant -- would it perceive itself as a captive or
a teacher? would it feel itself under duress in exposing its
language? Would it 'sabotage' the infants' minds to protect its
language and culture?

In a round-about way these subthemes are tied into the main story
and perhaps are used to indicate how alien men and women are to each
other.

There's only a few complaints -- the 'battle between the sexes' theme
seems rather too black-white (but then isn't a +/- bifurcation
central to structuralism? (:-)). Also there are the usual
science-fiction misinterpretations of Goedel's Theorem and
uncomputability results.

One last thing, "an early grammar and dictionary of Laadan are
available ... write to Laadan, Route 4, Box 192-E, Huntsville AR
72740  ... enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope".
Disclaimer: I have no idea if this might be a put on.

ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) (04/27/85)

> One last thing, "an early grammar and dictionary of Laadan are
> available ... write to Laadan, Route 4, Box 192-E, Huntsville AR
> 72740  ... enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope".
> Disclaimer: I have no idea if this might be a put on.

This is no put-on.  I've seen the grammer/dictionary book.  It costs
a bit ($8.95, I think), so you really have to be interested to get it.
Suzzette Hayden Elgin, the author, put a lot of work into Laadan.  

There was a panel on Laadan and women's language in general at the
last NorWesCon (Seattle in March).  Some interesting thoughts were
discussed.

Ariel Shattan