[talk.politics.misc] Time to get out of the UN

devonst@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) (10/01/86)

References:


With the Daniloff case more or less behind us it would seem to be an
appropriate time to stop and reflect on the question of whether the
US should continue to support the United Nations.

The facts in the case have continually pointed up that the UN is a
hotbed of Soviet spy activity in the US.  Intelligence reports estimate
that roughly one fourth of the 800 Soviet workers in the UN are engaged
in spying.  Ironically, US contributions (which amount to over $350
million annually) are used to pay the salaries of these spys.  Most of
this money goes into the coffers of Moscow because employees must turn
over their paychecks to the Soviet mission.

The UN is a practically useless body.  It is powerless to stop aggression
anywhere in the world.  UN "peacekeeping" troops in the Middle East 
can't even protect themselves never mind preventing warring factions from
destroying one another.  The UN is simply a forum for third-world, petty,
anti-Israeli, anti-West dictators to let off a little steam.  They have
little need for any sort of constructive dialog as long as they can 
collect a handout to keep their shabby governments running.  Most of
these countries also populate the so-called "non-aligned" group, a mouthpiece
for pro-Soviet propoganda.

What good the UN does in the world through its relief agencies is more
than offset by the bad.  Even relief work can be twisted into anti-US
propoganda as witnessed by the recent events at UNESCO.

I believe it's time with withdrew our support from the UN and send all the
delegations a nice, short letter asking them to remove themselves from 
New York.  I'm sure we can put the UN facility to better use than the
current occupants have.  I believe we should face up to the fact that we 
were wrong when we said that the UN was the last, great hope for the
world.  As Jeane Kirkpatrick and other have said the United States is
the last, great hope for the world and it's about time we started to
act on that premise.

PS  Switzerland seems to be the only sane Western country in this regard.  
The citizens there have repeatedly refused to join the UN.  They know that 
no one is going to safeguard their country but they themselves.

--
Tom Albrecht

c50p-az@dorothy.Berkeley.EDU (E. Stephen Mack) (10/02/86)

With this U.N. posting, almost all recent high school and college debate
topics are under current discussion in talk.politics.misc, which
I find very amusing.

So, why not add the current Fall '8 semester college CEDA
(Cross-Examination Debate Association) topic to our list of
subjects?  The current CEDA topic is:

   "Resolved that improved relations with the Soviet Union are a more
   important objective for the U.S. than increased military preparedness."

I think it's a very interesting topic, worthy of discussion.  I _am_
currently debating this semester; if there is interest, I will post
current arguments and thinking on this topic.  (If there is interest,
I can also talk about current college and high school debate standards,
common practices and criteria.)



[For those who are at all remotely intrigued, the topics now under discussion
in talk.politics.misc relate to the following high school or college topics:

Employment -- from a high school topic two years ago: "Resolved that
the federal government should provide employment to all employable U.S.
citizens living in poverty."

Terrorism -- from the Fall '85 college CEDA topic: "Resolved that government
restrictions on coverage of terrorist activities by U.S. media is justified."

U.N. -- from the Spring of '86 college CEDA topic: "Resolved the membership
in the United Nations is no longer beneficial to the U.S."]

Drugs -- a topic from high school Lincoln-Douglas debate about a semester
         ago, but the wording escapes me.

Censorship -- ditto, from '84

Seat Belt Laws -- from a consumer safety topic in high school in '80.

Plus some other ones I'm forgetting.  Any debators out there who can
help me out?]

      [e. stephen]

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