Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP (01/15/87)
Really-From: tcjones@watdragon.UUCP (Crocodile Dundee) and i finally broke down and bought SO (2nd hand) just to confirm that PG really had sold out and after assuring myself that he had i rang andrew and he suggested that perhaps SO really stood for Sold Out love terry
Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (01/16/87)
Really-From: sho@tybalt.caltech.edu (Sho Kuwamoto) In article <2094@watdragon.UUCP> Love-Hounds writes: >Really-From: tcjones@watdragon.UUCP (Crocodile Dundee) > >and i finally broke down and bought SO (2nd hand) just to confirm that >PG really had sold out and after assuring myself that he had i rang >andrew and he suggested that perhaps SO really stood for Sold Out >love terry Well. First time I heard "Sledgehammer", I said: "Ach! What is this which Peter Gabriel has done? Another good artiste gone to sh*t!" But then, I reconsidered. Not after multiple listenings, but after going to his *concert*. Within the context of the concert, the mixture of his ominous, dark music (Family and the Fishing Net, etc.), and his just plain serious music (Biko, etc.) was well balanced by his more light-hearted music, which came almost exclusively from *So*. In *my* opinion, one of the main problem with many bands, especially less popular bands, is that they take themselves too seriously. For example, when I'm in the right mood, I like listening to Joy Division, but when I'm not chronically depressed, the music seems almost silly. It seems to say "Look at me! I'm soooo depressed. I'm such a depressed kind of serious guy. Oooh oooh, I want to die. I'm in so much pain. Oooh." (This, more than Bono's whining, is my main problem with U2.) Of course, we can't expect bands to write songs about everyday events like buying onions, or standing next to the office water cooler, but if a band's music is entirely composed of one extreme or another, it tends to lose its impact. I guess what I'm trying to say is that what normally serious bands need to provide during 2 1/2 hour concerts is O O O O that Shakespeherian comic relief; light or even comical songs can add to the effect of more serious songs. I don't think that a Skinny Puppy concert would work with even one lighthearted song, but I think that many bands could use a little flippancy now and then. Goonight Bill. Goonight Lou. Goonight May. Goonight. Ta ta. Goonight. Goonight. Good night, ladies, good night, sweet ladies, good night, good night. -Sho
Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP (01/19/87)
Really-From: munnari!yarra.OZ!rag@seismo.CSS.GOV (Robyn Grunberg) > From: tcjones@watdragon.UUCP (Crocodile Dundee) > > and i finally broke down and bought SO (2nd hand) just to confirm that > PG really had sold out and after assuring myself that he had i rang > andrew and he suggested that perhaps SO really stood for Sold Out > love terry How could you ever think that PG would *sell out*. If you want to hear the same old thing again then simply put PG1 (or any other) on repeat and listen to your hearts content. Ro.
Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP (01/20/87)
Really-From: jdm@gssc.UUCP (John D. Miller) what is this crap about peter gabriel "selling out?" just because someone's music is finally recognized by alot of people doesn't mean the artist has changed his personal style and viewpoint!! you, sir, are an arrogant snob who will only listen to music so long as no one outside of your social and personal class (read clique) likes it. if one of the songs/albums/artists winds up on the top-40 chart because it is universally appealling, you drop it like a past fad. grow up!! i don't like hype any more than you do, and it pains me to see really talented people give in to the urge of suppressing their true purpose of making good music and giving in to the urge of making really good money. a loathsome few: phil collins (with and without genesis), billy joel, etc. phil collins is, by far, the worst case. i mean, how can you go from "duke" to "disco - the nightmare continues." i have all of gabriel's albums, and while "security" is my personal favorite, "so" is probably my second favorite. tracks like "red rain," "mercy street," re-enforce my argument that he has not sold out on intellectual and purposeful music. i hope he never does. -- jdm ps - i like the version of "excellent birds" on laurie anderson's "mister heartbreak" a tad better than the version on "so" called "this is the picture." i think "mister heartbreak" is by far laurie's best, also. [I too think that calling *SO* a "sell-out" is not quite appropriate. But one cannot deny that the album was definitely and intentionally made to be much more "commercial" than any of his previous albums. --Doug]
Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (01/24/87)
Really-From: Vulture of Light <trainor@CS.UCLA.EDU>
what is this crap about peter gabriel "selling out?" just because
someone's music is finally recognized by alot of people doesn't mean
the artist has changed his personal style and viewpoint!!
Gabriel sold-out long before ``SO.'' He's only slightly better than
Phil baby in this respect.
Malcom X,
No Sellout,
Douglas