Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP (03/26/87)
Really-From: EOLSON@HMCVAX IED Writes: >Not clear what the other passage you refer to is (presumably not >the part right after the "mystery" track where the line "We see >you here" is sung backwards several times.) This, too, will be >investigated. The sequence I was referring to is at the end of "WYWM" and goes like this... You didn't hear me come in - bb-Help-bb-me-bb-baby-listen-b-to-b-me-b-baby-b-listen-b-to-b-me-talk-b-to-b me-b-oh-b-listen (?) em reah nac ouy ("You can't hear me" backwards) l - stn - o - e - aby - elp - e - aby - tal - to - (etc.) em reah nac ouy ("You can't hear me" backwards) You won't hear me leaving. Erik Olson <EOLSON@HMCVAX.BITNET> <EOLSON@muddcs.clarcol.edu>
Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU.UUCP (04/03/87)
Really-From: prs@oliven.ATC.OLIVETTI.COM (Philip Stephens) In article <8703262035.AA10969@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> Love-Hounds@EDDIE.MIT.EDU writes: >Really-From: EOLSON@HMCVAX > > >The sequence I was referring to is at the end of "WYWM" and goes like this... > > You didn't hear me come in - > >bb-Help-bb-me-bb-baby-listen-b-to-b-me-b-baby-b-listen-b-to-b-me-talk-b-to-b > me-b-oh-b-listen (?) > > em reah nac ouy ("You can't hear me" backwards) > >l - stn - o - e - aby - elp - e - aby - tal - to - (etc.) > > em reah nac ouy ("You can't hear me" backwards) > > You won't hear me leaving. > > Erik Olson > <EOLSON@HMCVAX.BITNET> > <EOLSON@muddcs.clarcol.edu> Well, here's my version, forward *and* backward. Be warned that I seldom get anyone to agree with my transcriptions (sigh). The following stuff is a reply I typed in last October or earlier, and I think I tried to post it but was having mailer trouble. Note that I did have a backward copy to listen to, courtesy of a co-worker called "Gnome". ======================================================================== if impatient, hit n-key now. Recycled posting begins here. ======================================================================== OK, after much listening to my backward cassette last night (my ears still hurt, from turning up the volume on my earphones in a vain attempt to get better signal to noise ratio), I hear the following for the whole track: (note that <> brackets are where I'm *particularly* uncertain of my interpretation, even more than the usual level of error. So don't take any of this as my insisting that these are accurate...) ======================================================== Backward... ======================================================== {end} ...hear me leaving ...You can't hear me {chopped:} talk to me, listen to me, listen to me, talk to me, talk to me, baby <I don't want you to leave, but you don't listen to me> {"cymbal crash"} ...You can't hear me {chopped:} I was <here> before, you talked to me, <you said that you didn't think it was too late to > help me <you could> help me {fwd stuff, incl seagulls} {I really think this is fwd, not bkwd:} (w/r/l)eee... seee leeen { total of seven times } {or "we see you leave", but it isn't clear to me at all} Mawww nee naw nihnawnee.... neh, eee nawnkeenuhs, nawnkeenuhs Mawww nee naw nihnawnee.... neh, eee nawnkeenuhs, nawnkeenuhs Mawww nee naw nihnawnee.... neh, eee nawnkeenuhs, nawnkeenuhs {fwd} {SOS is a palindrome} you wont hear me {amoung fwd stuff, maybe "I can not", but I think I'm imagining it} {remaining stuff is fwd} {begin} ======================================================== And forward... ======================================================== {begin} {the following included because deviates from record liner notes} You won't hear me You won't hear me You won't hear me saying You won't hear me saying to you {Note that "saying" sounds on the track almost like "singing" or even "sekking"... irrelevant slurring? And I'm not sure about liner's "can't", could be "don't" or especially "won't"} Can't let you know... ... {etc, as in lyrics on record liner} You won't hear me You won't hear me You won't hear me You in the room with me {especially note this deviation from record liner} You can't hear me saying You won't hear me saying to you Can't let you know... ... {etc, as in lyrics on record liner} {S O S} Sun ihk nawn, sun ihk nawn-ee-een, ed <n>eeee... naw n' naw nee naw' Sun ihk nawn, sun ihk nawn-ee-een, ed <m>eeee... naw n' naw nee naw' Sun ihk nawn, sun ihk nawn-ee-een, ed <n>eeee... naw n' naw nee naw....n Release yea {repeated for a total of seven; I seem to hear "ree-lee-syee" every time except once when the Y is missing, ie "Really see"} {compare the following to inclusions in Wake; same lines different order} You didn't hear me come in... {or "cummin'"?} {chopped:} help me baby help me baby don't <do it> it's too late listen to me LISTEN to me talk to me <at all, and really> listen <to me> Nih-vee ehneck rinee { see later line } {even more heavily chopped:} listen to me LISTEN to me baby help me HELP me baby talk to me TALK to <me> please please TALK to <me> {desperate voice} Nih-vee ehneck rinee { following line, backward} ...You won't hear me leavin'! {end} ================================================================ Pardon me assaulting you with the obvious, but I wanted to point out that while some backward portions turn out quite predictably, the apparent effect of reversing the "chopped" part is totally at odds with what you would predict by cataloging the phonemes and then listing them in reverse order. I think she has made an incredible discovery here. Well, it blows me away, anyway. Apparently she has a way of putting both fwd and bkwd phonemes into the same burst in a way that allows each to be ignored when played the opposite of its intended direction. Stunning idea. ================================================================ [postscript April 2, 87; note also that certain of these lines or some very similar appear in Waking the Witch; I'll include just the fragment of my Wake transcription that applies (of course, I don't expect anyone to agree with that either....) [<a>:K, choppy, from Watching You Without Me] listen to me LISTEN to me baby help me HELP me baby talk to me TALK to me please please TALK to me [desperate voice] [<b> Inquisitor; <c> Kate, doubled]: <b> "YOU WON'T BURN!" <c> Red red roses <b> YOU WON'T BLEED <c> Pinks and posies <b> CONFESS TO ME GIRL <c> Red red roses, go down..... [K, disquised as very odd church choir!] /"Spiritus sanctus in nomineeeeee"/x4 <b> POOR LITTLE THING <c> Red red roses <b> THE BLACK BIRD <c> Pinks and posies <b> WINGS IN THE WATER <c> Red red roses, <b>/<c> GO DOWN..... <c> Pinks and posies [odd church choir, this time with drum and church bells...ominous] /"Deus et deu dominummmmmm "/x4 [distorted voice, as an impatient guardian] oh child, child, [<a> (because voice and emotion corolate), Kate, speaking urgently and at first very rhythmicly; progressively more desperate...]: <a> Listen to me he lets me by <buy> the (formagistidden?) ahh!! < where Magic's hidden?> <a> help me! listen to me LISTEN to me <c> Red red roses <a> help me baby! ahh!!! <c> Red red ro... <a> help me... baby! <c> o... <a> ....Choked 'im [voice is choked] <c> o.... <Who choked whom?> ========================================================== ========================================================== ========================================================== OK, so I don't hear the same as other people do. Could have to do with this full house in my head tonight..... - Phil prs@oliveb.UUCP (Phil Stephens) {really oliven} or, if that fails: {get to 'ames' somehow, then}!oliveb!prs Mail welcome, but my mailer seldom cooperates when I try to reply.