[mod.comp-soc] Computers and Society Digest, #8

taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (06/21/86)

 
                     Computers and Society Digest, Number 8
 
                            Monday, January 6th 1986
 
Topics of discussion in this issue...
 
                       Re: Computers and Society Digest #7
                    Worms and the unreadability of binaries.
              Personality changes from electronic communication...
                       Re: Computers and Society Digest #5
                                 Killer Robots 
 
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Subject: Re: Computers and Society Digest #7
Date: 21 Dec 85 22:41:56 PST (Sat)
From: Bob Desinger <hpda!hpitg!bd>

I don't take drugs either, but I *do* take computers.  (Perhaps we should
start a discussion about computer-work as means to escape reality.  On the
other hand, maybe the psychological studies about workaholics have covered
all the answers already.)

Uh, this is just one man's opinion, but I thought the last C&SD about the
pharmaceutical database was long compared with the point it was trying to
make.  (Actually, the excerpt was long; your comments were much more
thought-provoking and to the point.)  Maybe I'm just a malcontent.  Just
wanted to keep you posted, plus let you know that I do read the stuff.

Written on a Saturday night by
-- bd

 
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Subject: Worms and the unreadability of binaries.
Date: 21 Dec 85 20:41:23 N (Sat)
From: Jack Jansen <hplabs!utah-cs!seismo!mcvax!jack>

I think the problem of worms in commercially available
software touches on one of the greatest misfeatures of the
current generation of computer-software: You cannot find out
in any feasible way *how* they do something.
Dis-asembling object code is clearly out for 99.99% of
the microcomputer owners, and even if they have the manpower
to do it, it's probably easier to rewrite your application
from scratch.

This issue also came up in net.dcom (I think) recently, in a
slightly different form. The problem posed there was that there
is *no way* you can be sure that your in-house telephone exchange
hasn't got some 'features' built into the firmware that allows
eavesdropping on even in-house calls by someone phoning in from
outside.

The issue is fundamentally different from, say, making sure that
Ford hasn't put a bomb in the engine of your new car.
It will take the average car-technician a few minutes to run through
the motor to assure you it isn't bugged. This is clearly not the
case with software.

One possible solution would be to have all software in some more
readable form than binary object code, in some lisp-like language,
for instance. This might sound ridiculous,
but, aside from the fact that it makes software at least a bit more
readable (yes, I *do* believe that lisp is more readable than object
code, albeit marginally so:-), it also makes it possible for a
reasonably trained person to customize small bits of the program
to the customers need (Think of output in different languages,
different screen layouts, etc).
So, even though the software will probably run slower, it might
very well pay off.

	Jack Jansen, jack@mcvax.UUCP
	The shell is my oyster.

 
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 85 18:26:56 MST
From: hpcnou!dat (Dave Taylor)
Subject: Personality changes from electronic communication...

           [From The New York Times, Tuesday, October 2, 1984, p. C1]
                                        
            EMOTIONAL OUTBURSTS PUNCTUATE CONVERSATIONS BY COMPUTER
                                by Erik Eckholm
                                        
        Computer buffs call it  "flaming." Now scientists are  documenting
    and  trying  to  explain   the  surprising  prevalence  of   rudeness,
    profanity, exultation  and other  emotional outbursts  by people  when
    they carry on discussions via computer.
    
        The frequent resort to emotional  language is just one of  several
    special traits  of computer  communications discovered  by  behavioral
    scientists studying how this new medium affects the message.
    
        Observing   both   experimental   groups   and   actual    working
    environments, scientists at  Carnegie-Mellon University are  comparing
    decision-making through face-to-face  discussions with that  conducted
    electronically.
    
        In the experiments, in addition  to calling each other more  names
    and generally showing more emotion, people "talking" by computer  took
    longer to agree, and their final decisions tended to be more  extreme,
    involving   either   greater   or   lesser   risk   than   the    more
    middle-of-the-road decisions  reached  by groups  meeting  in  person.
    Curiously,  those   who  made   such  decisions   through   electronic
    give-and-take  believed  more  strongly  in  the  rightness  of  their
    choices.
    
        As small computers proliferate in offices and homes, more business
    discussions that were  once pursued face-to-face,  by telephone or  on
    paper are  now taking  place by  way of  keyboards and  video  display
    terminals.  With  electronic  mail, messages  are  left in  a  central
    computer for reading by correspondents on their own computers at their
    own   convenience.    Computer   conferences   can   be   carried   on
    simultaneously or not.
    
        In some offices, observers  say, the traditional typed  memorandum
    is all  but extinct,  and computer  mail is  replacing even  telephone
    calls.  Employees  in  one corporation  studied  received or  sent  an
    average of 24 computer messages a day.
    
        The unusual characteristics showing up in computer  communications
    should not be seen as entirely negative, say the researchers.  When it
    is not insulting, language that  is uninhibited and informal helps  to
    bridge social barriers and may help  to draw out some people's  ideas.
    And more extreme decisions can  be innovative and creative instead  of
    foolish.

        Moreover,  members  of  groups  talking  electronically  tend   to
    contribute much more equally to the discussion.

        "This is unusual group democracy," said Dr. Sara Kiesler, a
    psychologist at Carnegie-Mellon.  "There is less of a tendency for one
    person to dominate the conversation, or for others to defer to the one
    with the highest status."

                        LOOSER STANDARDS FOR DISCUSSIONS
                                        
        Studies of  electronic mail  is several  Fortune 500  corporations
    have confirmed  the  tendency for  people  to use  more  informal  and
    expressive language on the computer than when communicating in person,
    by telephone or by memo.

        "Whatever the company's pre-existing standards for the  expression
    of opinion, electronic mail seems to loosen them," Dr. Lee Sproull,  a
    sociologist at Carnegie-Mellon, said in an interview, But in  contrast
    with the  experimental  findings,  in  the  corporate  world  positive
    emotional expressions greatly outnumbered negative ones.

        The company studies  also indicate that  computers are  permitting
    much wider  participation  in  discussions  than  in  the  past,  with
    employees far from headquarters  now able to  follow debates and  make
    their views known.

        Unusually expressive language  has been one  of the most  striking
    characteristics of  computer  discussions studied  in  many  different
    contexts.  "It's mazing," said Dr. Kiesler.  "We've seen messages sent
    out by managers -- messages that  will be seen by thousands of  people
    -- that use language normally heard in locker rooms."
    
                        COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARDS

        The frequent use of  exuberant and offensive  terms has long  been
    noted by observers of computer  bulletin boards.  In 1982 the  Defense
    Communications Agency, which  manages the world's  oldest and  largest
    computer network for use by Pentagon employees and contractors, issued
    the following message to  potential bulletin board contributors:  "Due
    to  past  problems  with  messages   deemed  in  bad  taste  by   'the
    authorities,' messages  sent to  this  address are  manually  screened
    (generally, every  couple  of  days)  before  being  remailed  to  the
    Boards."
    
        Struggling to explain the  free-wheeling language that people  use
    on computers,  the  Carnegie-Mellon scientists  note  that  electronic
    communications  convey  none  of  the  non-verbal  cues  of   personal
    conversation  --  the  eye  contact,  facial  expressions  and   voice
    inflections that  provide  social  feedback  and  my  inhibit  extreme
    behavior.  Even a memo, with  its letterhead and chosen form,  carries
    more nonverbal information than does a message on a screen.  Also,  no
    strong rules of etiquette for computer conversation have yet  evolved.
    
        Computer writers often become  deeply engrossed in their  message,
    the researchers have found,  but their focus tends  to be on the  text
    itself rather than their audience, perhaps another consequence of  the
    lack of non-verbal feedback.
    
        In a forthcoming  paper, Dr.  Kiesler and  three colleagues  posit
    that "using computers to communicate draws attention to the technology
    and  to  the  content  of  communication  and  away  from  people  and
    relationships with people."

 
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Subject: Re: Computers and Society Digest #5
Date: 16 Dec 85 14:29:05 PST (Mon)
From: Bob Desinger <hpda!hpitg!bd>

Gary North may have a valid basis to worry, but his melodramatic tone is
better suited to Firesign Theatre albums.  His tone reminded me of Dr. 
Happy Harry Cox ("This is no crazed sterno bum.  This is a respected law
enforcement official, Sheriff Luger Axehandle of Hellmouth County,
California."  [Everything You Know is Wrong]).

I suspect that most of the people on the C&SD mailing list are
technologists (like me) who were pretty turned off by the hyperbole
(like me) despite the interesting points.  Really, how can I take a guy
seriously if he tries to show us How Serious It All Is by relating
the situation to "War Games"?  It would be amusing except for the
real-life stories (as opposed to his alarmist "what-if" scenarios)
about Microsoft, and the similar story in C&SD digest #6.

Don't *tell* us a situation is serious, *show* us that it's serious by
the facts.  Save the fiction for comic books and late movies. 

Bob Desinger

PS:	Keep the C&SD coming -- it's thought-provoking!

 
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From: JP Massar at ihnp4!godot!massar
Subject: Killer Robots 
Date: copied January 6th, 1986

[from net.general]

   "A much more sinister arrival on the robot scene is named Prowler.
Created by Robot Defense Systems in Colorado, Prowler has been designed
for use as a sentry to guard military installations, warehouses and
other sites where security is important.  When made available in the
near future, this squat, sturdy, mobile device will carry
microcomputers, software and sensors capable of locating intruders.
Chillingly, buyers will be able to arm Prowler with machine guns and
grenade launchers; they'll also be able to program the robot to fire at
will.  The manufacturer claims that interest in Prowler has been high,
both among domestic companies who see it as a comparatively low-cost
replacement for 24-hour human security, and certain foreign countries
where government officials might prefer guards that will never revolt."
 
                                        -- US Air magazine
 
-- JP Massar, Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA
-- ihnp4!godot!massar, massar@think.com.arpa 
-- 617-876-1111

[The question is - what are people going to think about technology
 after the first person is killed through an accident by one of these
 metal demons?  Are we really advanced enough in hardware/software to
 create these?  Would you want to WORK at a place that used these
 fellows to guard the premises?  -- Dave]


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