taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) (06/25/86)
-------- Computers and Society Digest, Number 21 Monday, May 12th 1986 Topics of discussion in this issue... Effects of computers on writing... Accounting for Varying Response to Catastrophes (2 msgs) A discussion group for technology for the handicapped ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Sesnovich at Data General Date: Fri, 2 May 86 20:13:18 edt Subject: Effects of computers on writing... [from Risks Digest, Volume 2, Issue 48] ARE WORD-PROCESSING AND ELECTRONIC MAIL HELPING TO PROLIFERATE BAD WRITING? Before word processors and electronic mail existed, important letters or documents were usually handwritten and hand-corrected, often in several drafts, before being typed and mailed. The typing of the letter represented a finalizing and codifying process which encouraged well thought-out communication. Care needed to be taken, since a single error could necessitate re-typing the entire letter or document. There is a hidden risk in the new media, in that they have enabled us to bypass the correction and finalizing phases of letter writing, often resulting in quick and efficient dissemination of poorly planned, sloppy and confusing prose. In technical communications, where complex and potentially important ideas are exchanged, clearness of expression is obligatory. I could cite, nevertheless, many examples (some from recent RISKS, which I will not include to avoid unfairly embarrassing the authors) where bad writing has rendered sentences unintelligible and thoughts and ideas obscure. We tend to be very quick to correct each other on points of technical accuracy, but very slow to correct, or even recognize, inaccuracy of expression in our own or others' writing. While I do not advocate abandoning the ASCII keyboard for quill and parchment, I do encourage readers of RISKS to take the time to proof and revise any of their writing meant to convey important technical information. Re-read your work, and have others examine it for clarity, absence of jargon, and general comprehensibility before you send or submit it to anyone. Remember that word processors and email facilities are only tools, and that the burden of effective communication still rests upon those who use them. [This is true for any form of electronic communications!! It was a constant point of horror when I was tutoring a writing class in college how AWFUL my classmates were at writing -- even letters to friends -- and the worst that I ever received were electronically generated. A hearty Hear! Hear! from the moderator of THIS group!! -- Dave] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1986 00:17 EDT From: James H. Coombs <JAZBO%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> Subject: Accounting for Varying Response to Catastrophes "Human interest" is the explanation given in *The Big Carnival* for the fact that people are more interested in catastrophes involving a few people than in those involving multitudes. Some of the focus of the Challenger discussion has been on technology, but a lot of it has been on Christa and people's response to her death. Notice also that the others have been ignored in comparison to Christa. I'm not sure how to spell her last name, but I have no idea who the others were. This would seem to bear out the theory that people are interested in the trials of individuals. In this case, we turn it into an individual tragedy by focusing on one person and ignoring the others, which is not too hard to do when you have one flashy civilian among just a few professionals. I suppose that we could also explain this by the fact that this is an American catastrophe and not a Mexican one. One more possibility. Technology and technological catastrophes are under human control; earthquakes and natural catastrophes are random or under divine control, which to humans often appears to be either random or perverse (Job). Consequently, I think we can expect people to be much more interested in technological catastrophes than in natural catastrophes. Except where there is technological or human error aggravating a natural capacity, I think the response is "let's clean up and go on." Technological catastrophes provide considerable opportunity for extended analysis. So where are the computers in all of this? I don't recall hearing any relief expressed over the vulnerability of human technology with its displacing artificial intelligence. I admit to being fairly isolated from popular media, so perhaps someone else has evidence of the role of computers in response to catastrophes. If not, I conclude provisionally that computers play no special role in the varying responses to catastrophes; they are just another part of our technology. The varying responses may be explained more suitably by 1) human interest, 2) nationalism, and 3) perceived degree of human responsibility. --Jim JAZBO@BROWNVM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 86 09:43:54 pdt From: Scott McGregor <hplabs!hpccc!mcgregor> Subject: Another comment on catastrophes I think that people have always been more able to relate to small tragedies (such as 7 deaths in the Space Shuttle accident) rather than large tragedies (such as the Mexico City Earthquake). This was true even before instant TV. You can look at the number of deaths in various wars, vs. the assinations of polical figures, from Socrates to Kennedy. I think the reason is that in a small time, whether by TV, newspaper, or word of mouth, you can tell the story of the death of a few people, plus their autobiographies, what their friends and family said/felt. You can't do this for the complete set of Mexico City earthquake victims, the holocaust victims, soldiers who died in Viet Nam, etc. You can focus in on some individuals, and that tends to bring strong sympathy for those particular individuals; some of these feelings are transfered to the "unknown masses" not focused on, but the strength of such feelings are greatly reduced. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 86 11:07:02 pdt From: Dave Taylor <taylor@hplabsc> Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped [From Usenet] # Written 7:53 am May 8, 1986 by SY.FDC@cu20b.columbia.edu in net.unix # In Real Life: Frank da Cruz # Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped A mailing list has been set up at North Dakota State University for discussing computer and other technology for people with any kind of handicap, plus meetings, conferences, funding agencies, and so forth. It is run by Bob Puyear, NU025213@NDSUVM1.BITNET (via Arpanet, NU025213%NDSUVM1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU), who will add you to the mailing list if you send him a request to do so. To send mail directly to the list itself, replace NU025213 by L$HCAP in the addresses above. # End of text ----------------------------------- To have your thoughts included in this digest, or to join the mailing list, please send electronic mail to Dave Taylor at any of the following addresses: taylor@HPLABS.{CSNET,ARPA -- or -- ..hplabs!taylor This digest is published approximately bi-monthly and does not necessarily express the views of HP nor anyone else other than the individual authors of the messages. *********************************** End of Computers and Society Digest ***********************************
taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (06/27/86)
esented a finalizing and codifying process which encouraged well thought-out communication. Care needed to be taken, since a single error could necessitate re-typing the entire letter or document. There is a hidden risk in the new media, in that they have enabled us to bypass the correction and finalizing phases of letter writing, often resulting in quick and efficient dissemination of poorly planned, sloppy and confusing prose. In technical communications, where complex and potentially important ideas are exchanged, clearness of expression is obligatory. I could cite, nevertheless, many examples (some from recent RISKS, which I will not include to avoid unfairly embarrassing the authors) where bad writing has rendered sentences unintelligible and thoughts and ideas obscure. We tend to be very quick to correct each other on points of technical accuracy, but very slow to correct, or even recognize, inaccuracy of expression in our own or others' writing. While I do not advocate abandoning the ASCII keyboard for quill and parchment, I do encourage readers of RISKS to take the time to proof and revise any of their writing meant to convey important technical information. Re-read your work, and have others examine it for clarity, absence of jargon, and general comprehensibility before you send or submit it to anyone. Remember that word processors and email facilities are only tools, and that the burden of effective communication still rests upon those who use them. [This is true for any form of electronic communications!! It was a constant point of horror when I was tutoring a writing class in college how AWFUL my classmates were at writing -- even letters to friends -- and the worst that I ever received were electronically generated. A hearty Hear! Hear! from the moderator of THIS group!! -- Dave] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1986 00:17 EDT From: James H. Coombs <JAZBO%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> Subject: Accounting for Varying Response to Catastrophes "Human interest" is the explanation given in *The Big Carnival* for the fact that people are more interested in catastrophes involving a few people than in those involving multitudes. Some of the focus of the Challenger discussion has been on technology, but a lot of it has been on Christa and people's response to her death. Notice also that the others have been ignored in comparison to Christa. I'm not sure how to spell her last name, but I have no idea who the others were. This would seem to bear out the theory that people are interested in the trials of individuals. In this case, we turn it into an individual tragedy by focusing on one person and ignoring the others, which is not too hard to do when you have one flashy civilian among just a few professionals. I suppose that we could also explain this by the fact that this is an American catastrophe and not a Mexican one. One more possibility. Technology and technological catastrophes are under human control; earthquakes and natural catastrophes are random or under divine control, which to humans often appears to be either random or perverse (Job). Consequently, I think we can expect people to be much more interested in technological catastrophes than in natural catastrophes. Except where there is technological or human error aggravating a natural capacity, I think the response is "let's clean up and go on." Technological catastrophes provide considerable opportunity for extended analysis. So where are the computers in all of this? I don't recall hearing any relief expressed over the vulnerability of human technology with its displacing artificial intelligence. I admit to being fairly isolated from popular media, so perhaps someone else has evidence of the role of computers in response to catastrophes. If not, I conclude provisionally that computers play no special role in the varying responses to catastrophes; they are just another part of our technology. The varying responses may be explained more suitably by 1) human interest, 2) nationalism, and 3) perceived degree of human responsibility. --Jim JAZBO@BROWNVM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 86 09:43:54 pdt From: Scott McGregor <hplabs!hpccc!mcgregor> Subject: Another comment on catastrophes I think that people have always been more able to relate to small tragedies (such as 7 deaths in the Space Shuttle accident) rather than large tragedies (such as the Mexico City Earthquake). This was true even before instant TV. You can look at the number of deaths in various wars, vs. the assinations of polical figures, from Socrates to Kennedy. I think the reason is that in a small time, whether by TV, newspaper, or word of mouth, you can tell the story of the death of a few people, plus their autobiographies, what their friends and family said/felt. You can't do this for the complete set of Mexico City earthquake victims, the holocaust victims, soldiers who died in Viet Nam, etc. You can focus in on some individuals, and that tends to bring strong sympathy for those particular individuals; some of these feelings are transfered to the "unknown masses" not focused on, but the strength of such feelings are greatly reduced. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 86 11:07:02 pdt From: Dave Taylor <taylor@hplabsc> Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped [From Usenet] # Written 7:53 am May 8, 1986 by SY.FDC@cu20b.columbia.edu in net.unix # In Real Life: Frank da Cruz # Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped A mailing list has been set up at North Dakota State University for discussing computer and other technology for people with any kind of handicap, plus meetings, conferences, funding agencies, and so forth. It is run by Bob Puyear, NU025213@NDSUVM1.BITNET (via Arpanet, NU025213%NDSUVM1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU), who will add you to the mailing list if you send him a request to do so. To send mail directly to the list itself, replace NU025213 by L$HCAP in the addresses above. # End of text ----------------------------------- To have your thoughts included in this digest, or to join the mailing list, please send electronic mail to Dave Taylor at any of the following addresses: taylor@HPLABS.{CSNET,ARPA -- or -- ..hplabs!taylor This digest is published approximately bi-monthly and does not necessarily express the views of HP nor anyone else other than the individual authors of the messages. *********************************** End of Computers and Society Digest ***********************************
taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (07/01/86)
-------- [For all those people who've sent in mail saying that the articles in this group posted on 6/27 and 6/29 were truncated...we know! In fact, we've fixed the problem - turned out to be a quirk of 'inews' that it doesn't like being used in an RFA environment...I'll be reposting all the stuff that got eaten. Sorry about the volume of the group, but the 'n' key is just getting more and more handy, right? -- Dave] Computers and Society Digest, Number 21 Monday, May 12th 1986 Topics of discussion in this issue... Effects of computers on writing... Accounting for Varying Response to Catastrophes (2 msgs) A discussion group for technology for the handicapped ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Sesnovich at Data General Date: Fri, 2 May 86 20:13:18 edt Subject: Effects of computers on writing... [from Risks Digest, Volume 2, Issue 48] ARE WORD-PROCESSING AND ELECTRONIC MAIL HELPING TO PROLIFERATE BAD WRITING? Before word processors and electronic mail existed, important letters or documents were usually handwritten and hand-corrected, often in several drafts, before being typed and mailed. The typing of the letter represented a finalizing and codifying process which encouraged well thought-out communication. Care needed to be taken, since a single error could necessitate re-typing the entire letter or document. There is a hidden risk in the new media, in that they have enabled us to bypass the correction and finalizing phases of letter writing, often resulting in quick and efficient dissemination of poorly planned, sloppy and confusing prose. In technical communications, where complex and potentially important ideas are exchanged, clearness of expression is obligatory. I could cite, nevertheless, many examples (some from recent RISKS, which I will not include to avoid unfairly embarrassing the authors) where bad writing has rendered sentences unintelligible and thoughts and ideas obscure. We tend to be very quick to correct each other on points of technical accuracy, but very slow to correct, or even recognize, inaccuracy of expression in our own or others' writing. While I do not advocate abandoning the ASCII keyboard for quill and parchment, I do encourage readers of RISKS to take the time to proof and revise any of their writing meant to convey important technical information. Re-read your work, and have others examine it for clarity, absence of jargon, and general comprehensibility before you send or submit it to anyone. Remember that word processors and email facilities are only tools, and that the burden of effective communication still rests upon those who use them. [This is true for any form of electronic communications!! It was a constant point of horror when I was tutoring a writing class in college how AWFUL my classmates were at writing -- even letters to friends -- and the worst that I ever received were electronically generated. A hearty Hear! Hear! from the moderator of THIS group!! -- Dave] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1986 00:17 EDT From: James H. Coombs <JAZBO%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> Subject: Accounting for Varying Response to Catastrophes "Human interest" is the explanation given in *The Big Carnival* for the fact that people are more interested in catastrophes involving a few people than in those involving multitudes. Some of the focus of the Challenger discussion has been on technology, but a lot of it has been on Christa and people's response to her death. Notice also that the others have been ignored in comparison to Christa. I'm not sure how to spell her last name, but I have no idea who the others were. This would seem to bear out the theory that people are interested in the trials of individuals. In this case, we turn it into an individual tragedy by focusing on one person and ignoring the others, which is not too hard to do when you have one flashy civilian among just a few professionals. I suppose that we could also explain this by the fact that this is an American catastrophe and not a Mexican one. One more possibility. Technology and technological catastrophes are under human control; earthquakes and natural catastrophes are random or under divine control, which to humans often appears to be either random or perverse (Job). Consequently, I think we can expect people to be much more interested in technological catastrophes than in natural catastrophes. Except where there is technological or human error aggravating a natural capacity, I think the response is "let's clean up and go on." Technological catastrophes provide considerable opportunity for extended analysis. So where are the computers in all of this? I don't recall hearing any relief expressed over the vulnerability of human technology with its displacing artificial intelligence. I admit to being fairly isolated from popular media, so perhaps someone else has evidence of the role of computers in response to catastrophes. If not, I conclude provisionally that computers play no special role in the varying responses to catastrophes; they are just another part of our technology. The varying responses may be explained more suitably by 1) human interest, 2) nationalism, and 3) perceived degree of human responsibility. --Jim JAZBO@BROWNVM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 86 09:43:54 pdt From: Scott McGregor <hplabs!hpccc!mcgregor> Subject: Another comment on catastrophes I think that people have always been more able to relate to small tragedies (such as 7 deaths in the Space Shuttle accident) rather than large tragedies (such as the Mexico City Earthquake). This was true even before instant TV. You can look at the number of deaths in various wars, vs. the assinations of polical figures, from Socrates to Kennedy. I think the reason is that in a small time, whether by TV, newspaper, or word of mouth, you can tell the story of the death of a few people, plus their autobiographies, what their friends and family said/felt. You can't do this for the complete set of Mexico City earthquake victims, the holocaust victims, soldiers who died in Viet Nam, etc. You can focus in on some individuals, and that tends to bring strong sympathy for those particular individuals; some of these feelings are transfered to the "unknown masses" not focused on, but the strength of such feelings are greatly reduced. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 86 11:07:02 pdt From: Dave Taylor <taylor@hplabsc> Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped [From Usenet] # Written 7:53 am May 8, 1986 by SY.FDC@cu20b.columbia.edu in net.unix # In Real Life: Frank da Cruz # Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped A mailing list has been set up at North Dakota State University for discussing computer and other technology for people with any kind of handicap, plus meetings, conferences, funding agencies, and so forth. It is run by Bob Puyear, NU025213@NDSUVM1.BITNET (via Arpanet, NU025213%NDSUVM1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU), who will add you to the mailing list if you send him a request to do so. To send mail directly to the list itself, replace NU025213 by L$HCAP in the addresses above. # End of text ----------------------------------- To have your thoughts included in this digest, or to join the mailing list, please send electronic mail to Dave Taylor at any of the following addresses: taylor@HPLABS.{CSNET,ARPA} -- or -- ..hplabs!taylor This digest is published approximately bi-monthly and does not necessarily express the views of HP nor anyone else other than the individual authors of the messages. *********************************** End of Computers and Society Digest ***********************************