[net.micro.ns32k] Orphaned Response

bees@infoswx.UUCP (06/13/86)

> 	I think someone should run the Dhrystone benchmarks on a 32332
> machine otherwise, I'd be force to to conclude that the part really
> wasn't that fast.
> -- 
> Clif Purkiser, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca.
> HIGH PERFORMANCE MICROPROCESSORS
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	Let's see Clif, by that 'logic' -

	"I think someone should run 4.2BSD or System V, Rel 2 on an 80386
  machine, otherwise, I'd be forced to conclude that the part really can't
  run demand-paged virtual UN*X."

	Pretty silly, huh! :-)

Gary Rima, National Semiconductor, Dallas, TX
EVEN HIGHER PERFORMANCE MICROPROCESSORS :-)
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brooks@lll-crg.ARpA (Eugene D. Brooks III) (06/15/86)

It took months to get the (Motorola, National, Intel) wars off of net.arch.
When net.micro.ns32k came on line I thought that it would be interesting to
subscribe, as we have a multiprocessor based on this chip set.  I now see
where the (M,N,I) wars went to...  If you guys would spend less time fighting
and more time designing we would have faster parts!

Its time for the old ug command! ;-)

jpm@quad1.UUCP (John McMamee) (06/17/86)

> It took months to get the (Motorola, National, Intel) wars off of net.arch.
> When net.micro.ns32k came on line I thought that it would be interesting to
> subscribe, as we have a multiprocessor based on this chip set.  I now see
> where the (M,N,I) wars went to...  If you guys would spend less time fighting
> and more time designing we would have faster parts!

Some people actually find the processor wars interesting, so long as
the majority of postings contain real information rather than personal
attacks.  I think the net has to face the fact that people like to
argue about the various CPUs.  I don't propose creating a new newsgroup
to carry such discussions.  These discussions are usally triggered by
new chip announcements so the logical place to have the discussion is
in the newsgroup devoted to the particular line of processors (i.e.
the 32232 discussion belongs in net.micro.ns32k, a 68020 discussion
belongs in net.micro.68k, etc.).  The volume REALLY isn't that great
(I'm only getting 4 or 5 messages a day in net.micro.ns32k).
-- 
John P. McNamee					Quadratron Systems Inc.

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clif@intelca.UUCP (Clif Purkiser) (06/18/86)

> It took months to get the (Motorola, National, Intel) wars off of net.arch.
> When net.micro.ns32k came on line I thought that it would be interesting to
> subscribe, as we have a multiprocessor based on this chip set.  I now see
> where the (M,N,I) wars went to...  If you guys would spend less time fighting
> and more time designing we would have faster parts!
> 
> Its time for the old ug command! ;-)

Mr Brooks is right this discussion has regressed into another microprocessor
war.  I guess I am as guilty as anyone for starting it again.  (Look at
the good side the group was kinda of slow until the discussion started.)
Anyway I'm prepared to stop since net.micro.ns32k is not about benchmarking.

	One final comment, when someone makes a claim like "processor 
X runs faster than processor Y" I believe that it perfectly reasonable to 
expect justification for the claim.  

The justification doesn't not have be it runs Sieve twice as fast or 
X does 5000 dhrystones Y does 3000 dhyrstones. It could be my graphics
package took less time to run on X than Y.   However the dhrystone does
seem to be the most popular attempt to measure performance on network.  
It is therefore a reasonable request to ask someone to run it for a 
new computer system. 


	Lies
	Damn Lies
	Benchmarks


-- 
Clif Purkiser, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca.
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