mrb@psuecl.BITNET (09/13/86)
I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors (hardware &
software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC Series 32000 designer
kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032).
They sound like what I want (does not seem to be anything comparable for 68020,
etc.) but I would like some guidance for purchasing.....
The ad says: "Each kit includes TDS Manual, TDSCOM Program Listing, Programming
Reference Guide, Series 32000 Data Book, Instruction Set Manual, Application
Notes and Product Brochures. (32016 Kit): 32016 CPU, 32081 FPU, 32082 MMU,
32201 TCU, 32202 ICU and 2 TDS PROMS......(32032 Kit): Same as above but a
32032 CPU & 4 TDS PROMs."
Your comments/assistance/warnings/caveats/suggestions are eagerly appreciated
and awaited.
Thanks in advance
MRB @ PSUECL (Penn State Engineering Computer Lab) via all the usual gateways.
haddock@ti-csl (09/15/86)
>I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors >(hardware & software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC >Series 32000 designer kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032). You might wanna check out the ICM-3216 board available from National Semi. This contains the the entire chip set, comes with 1(?) or 4-meg of memory, a SYS V Rel2 Rev2 tape (cartridge) , 4-serial ports, and a Centronics parallel port. The University/user-group program at N/S allows yoiu to get this two-board set for $1495. From here you'll need to add a power supply, disk drive, controller, terminal, and possibly a case to put it all into sans terminal. Maybe this is too muich $$$ for you but at least it's a working system with plenty of software available. This is something you won't easily put together with a bare chip set. Then again, if you're into making controllers as opposed to general purpose systems the chip set kits would be the way to go. -Rusty- ================================================================ *hardcopy* *electr{onic, ic}* Rusty Haddock ARPA: Haddock%TI-CSL@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA POB 226015 M/S 238 CSNET: Haddock@TI-CSL Texas Instruments Inc. USENET: {ut-sally,convex!smu,texsun}!ti-csl!haddock Dallas, Texas 75266 VOICE: (214) 995-0330
bdale@winfree.UUCP (Bdale Garbee) (09/17/86)
In article <367@PSUECL> mrb@psuecl.BITNET writes: >I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors (hardware & >software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC Series 32000 designer >kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032). The kits are $57 and $75 respectively from distributors, if you know of one to talk to. I picked up one 32016 and a pair of 32032 kits at that price. >Your comments/assistance/warnings/caveats/suggestions are eagerly appreciated >and awaited. caveats: All the parts in the kits are 6Mhz parts, at least 10Mhz 32016 parts are available... I was disappointed, but not surprised... should be plenty fast enough for you to have fun playing with. I figure that with lots of DMA for I/O, it should go fast enough for my target prototype as well... The Tiny Development System stuff seems to want com ports based on 8251A USARTS. I guess this is ok, but would have been MUCH nicer if they added hooks for custom I/O routines. For what I'm doing, Z8530's are so much nicer. Think about what, if any, software you will have to run on the box when you're done. I have a Symmetric 375, and so have a full BSD C compiler/assembler/linker that should be easy to use generating ROM-able code for my target(s). Not sure what else is available, as I've never looked. As much as I like the 32XXX family, the 68XXX family at least has CP/M 68K and OS9 available... think about it. The bottom line? If you want to get into 32XXX hardware, the kits are neat. They come with loads of docs, plus a listing of a turbo-pascal program for a PC that will talk to TDS for uploading/downloading code from a PC. 6Mhz parts are a drag though. If you are not a 32XXX fan but are just looking to get in to this level of hardware, look at 68XXX stuff. A simple single board with 68000 8-10Mhz, a couple serial ports, disk, and a bunch of memory makes a VERY nice OS9 box... Software is THE issue. -- Bdale Garbee, N3EUA phone: 303/593-9828 h, 303/590-2868 w uucp: {bellcore,crash,hp-lsd,hpcsma,pitt,vixie}!winfree!bdale fido: sysop of 156/8 packet: n3eua @ wb0blv, Colorado Springs
jec@iuvax.UUCP (09/17/86)
Don't forget the tape drive to read in the cartridge tape! Or am
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