INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA.UUCP (05/15/86)
INFO-MAC Digest Thursday, 15 May 1986 Volume 4 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: RedEdit Problem tracked down! Sequencer problems Discussion group for technology for the handicapped Solution to non-standard AppleTalk cables Dungeon of Doom. Aztec C compiler bug? LightspeedC math bugs Finder flags bit assignments and protect bit. Bus'd Out Paradise drives PostScript errors arising while printing Word Tools Software Engineering Tools on the Mac Mac-Textile? MacCOBOL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 May 86 16:14:40 EDT From: Gavin_Eadie%UMich-MTS.Mailnet@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: RedEdit Problem tracked down! Remember this ? ==== Message: 1193226, Posted: 1:39pm EDT, Mon Mar 17/86, 6 lines To: Gavin Eadie From: OR.LUSTIG@SU-SIERRA.ARPA Subject: Re: ResEdit 1.0D5 problem Please keep me informed if you hear from them. Ephraim Vishniac reported on the net.micro.mac bboard that he has gotten the same reply from Apple as you have. -Irv Lustig ==== Well, I finally figured it out! I was booting off a floppy with an old system and finder. My HD-20 had all the latest stuff on it but the boot process installs patches and they came from the sony disk and not the HD-20 ... I updated my boot disk to new system and all is now well. ResEdit was not the only program with problems; LightspeedC was also in *big trouble* - I can do without ResEdit but not that!! ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 86 21:51:50 GMT From: hplabs!well!hosoda@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Craig Hosoda) Subject: Sequencer problems Sender: usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Is anybody else having problems getting Darin Adler's Sequencer program to autostart? I've downloaded it, put it on my MacTerminal disk, used ResEdit to insert my strings for the Document name and MacTerminal. The Sequencer works fine when I double-click on it from the desktop. If I select it, choose "Set Startup", shutdown and reinsert the disk, Sequencer doesn't run and all I get is the desktop. I'm using System 3.1.1. Has anybody else tried to use it with similar results? I've tried both versions of the Sequencer. Thanks, Craig Hosoda ------------------------------ Date: Thu 8 May 86 10:33:53-EDT From: Frank da Cruz <SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU> Subject: Discussion group for technology for the handicapped A mailing list has been set up at North Dakota State University for discussing computer and other technology for people with any kind of handicap, plus meetings, conferences, funding agencies, and so forth. It is run by Bob Puyear, NU025213@NDSUVM1.BITNET (via Arpanet, NU025213%NDSUVM1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU), who will add you to the mailing list if you send him a request to do so. To send mail directly to the list itself, replace NU025213 by L$HCAP in the addresses above. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 86 08:53:37 pdt From: gould9!joel@nosc.ARPA (Joel West @ CACI) Subject: Solution to non-standard AppleTalk cables It's always bugged me that Apple's AppleTalk connectors are so non-standard. They're hard to find (except at Apple dealers who've bought the large kit), and a pain to solder. This comes to mind because we're recabling this week. Over at the SD Supercomputer Center I saw a nice solution. The wall plate consists of a single DE-9 outlet (I suspect female, but I can't recall). This contains three wires from the previous node, and three wires to the next node. If you want to plug in an AppleTalk node, you hook up a DE-9 to 2 X mini-din3 (for lack of a better name) adapter. What you end up with is using the 9 as a non-standard extension cord. (The end nodes require a special DE-9 to 1 X mini-din3, I suspect) If you don't want to plug in a node -- this is the payoff -- you use just a male 9 jumpered to pass the signals straight through. None of those mini female-to-female extenders required. Plus -- and this is a big concern -- you can buy a standard wall plate. Joel West CACI, Inc. Federal, La Jolla {cbosgd, ihnp4, sdcsvax, ucla-cs} !gould9!joel {seismo!s3sun, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun!pyramid} !gould9!joel joel%gould9.uucp@NOSC.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: Tue 13 May 86 14:12:25-EDT From: Alberto M. Magnani <MAG@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU> Subject: Dungeon of Doom. Regarding the editorial note saying that DoD version three has problems with HFS and Version two does not. I do not know where you got this information, but it is exactly wrong. Versions one and two do not understand HFS, version three DOES. I have version three on a Mac+ and have not encountered any bugs. I have also talked to John Raymonds about this, and he has assured me that it (v. 3) not only works on the Plus, but also the 512, 512e, xl, and a 512 upgraded, if this does not cover the range I apologize (you 128ers should upgrade). Another prominent problem he mentioned is all the bug inquiries he gets. 99 and 44/100's percent of them has been due to the fact that the person did not understand the problem. There are many peculiar happenings that are not bugs... it is up to you to figure them out... that's the fun of the game after all anyway... isn't it? If you do however find an obvious bug ("it gives me a system bomb every time I do this...") by all means send him a clear and concise description of the problem. If you have something like, oh I found the orb but it won't let me in the hall of legends, then go back and log in some more hours... you haven't played the game enough... -al [ from the moderator: I do not play Dungeon of Doom and I am not a registered user. I only pass on information given to me by my friends who have less work to do. Thanks for clearing up any inaccuracies. DoD ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1986 22:54 CST From: Craig Knelsen <CRAIG%UREGINA1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> Subject: Aztec C compiler bug? #include <quickdraw.h> #include <window.h> #include <control.h> main() { register ControlHandle p; f((*p)->contrlTitle); } ---- -? cc c.c c.c: line 9: error 29: illegal use of structure: Compiler: Aztec C 1.06G for the Macintosh The problem seems to result from the fact that Aztec changed the declaration of the member 'contrlTitle' in control.h: 1.06D release: char contrlTitle[1]; 1.06G release: Str255 contrlTitle; where Str255 is a typedef for: char * I have tried this example under the Vax 4.2bsd and Sun 2.0 compilers with no complaints from either. Changing the declaration back to what it was in the 1.06D release makes the problem disappear. Removing the register storage class declaration doesn't make a difference as far as the error is concerned. Craig Knelsen Dept. of Computer Science University of Regina Regina, Sk. UUCP: {ihnp4 | utcsri | alberta} !sask!regina!cknelsen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 86 10:26:53 EDT From: Meredith Lesly <mlesly@BBN-LABS-B.ARPA> Subject: LightspeedC math bugs I've found three math bugs so far, with the first partially credited to someone else on the net: 1. (double)(i - CONSTANT) always fails, not just in more complex arithmetic expressions. 2. The function ceil() is wrong. It works by adding .5 to a double and then convering it to a long. LS's double-to-long conversion method rounds, rather than truncates, and 1.5 rounds to 2, and so ceil(1.0) == 2, rather than one. The fix is to change .5 to .49(999?). Actually, it'll fail with numbers slightly greater than an ineger, but it'll almost always work. floor() may be wrong too for similar reasons. 3. Decform, in sane.h, is declared wrong. It should be: typedef struct { char style; char pad; int digits; } Decform; Obviously LightspeedC didn't test their floating point stuff too well. Oh yes, I almost forgot, there are two typos in sane.h, which you'll find if you try to recompile math.c. One of them is FFEXT, which should be FCEXT, and I forget the other, but it's obvious. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 86 16:25:57 -0200 From: Dolf Starreveld <mcvax!uva!dolf@seismo.CSS.GOV> Subject: Finder flags bit assignments and protect bit. A bit of experimenting revealed the following bit assignments for bits in the ioFndrInfo.fdFlags field. (To be obtained by calling PBGetFInfo): /* Following bits can be set in the fdFlags field of the ioFndrInfo struct. */ #define fLocked 0x8000 /* File is locked when accessed from Finder */ #define fInvisible 0x4000 /* File is invisible on desktop */ #define fHasBundle 0x2000 /* File has bundle */ #define fSystem 0x1000 /* System file */ #define fBozo 0x0800 /* We would like to know what this is ? */ #define fBusy 0x0400 /* File is in use */ #define fChanged 0x0200 /* File has changed (info ?) */ #define fInited 0x0100 /* File has been located by Finder */ #define fShared 0x0080 /* Multiple user busy with file ? */ #define fCached 0x0040 /* Enable caching of file ? */ #define fAlwSwitch 0x0020 /* Could somebody tell me please ? */ #define fNevSwitch 0x0010 /* Could somebody tell me please ? */ #define fOnDesk 0x0001 /* Following bits may be set in the ioFlAttrib field. NOTE: These are not finder flags !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! */ #define fFileBusy 0x80 /* File is busy (data or resource fork) */ #define fFileProt 0x40 /* File is protected */ #define fDirectory 0x10 /* Node is a directory */ #define fResOpen 0x08 /* File has resource fork open */ #define fDataOpen 0x04 /* File has data fork open */ #define fFileLocked 0x01 /* File has OS lock set */ NOTE: These values are valid under HFS. The nit assignments for the older flags such as fSystem, fBozo etc. are correct, but they are not the same as mentioned in IM, except for the Alpha Draft version of the HFS file manager, or later!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 86 08:54 PDT From: PUGH%CCV.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA Subject: Bus'd Out This is where I learned about Bus'd Out, have fun! Be aware that this runs off the modem port and not the printer port like other Appletalk games. It is a beta from Apple and it is best played with more than three people (although I haven't been able to get that many people together at one time). I should repost my desire to form a LARGE Mazewars and/or Bus'd Out pizza party in the Bay area. Let me know if you are interested. It promises to be a fun time. Jon [ archived as [sumex-aim.arpa]<info-mac>busdout.hqx DoD ] ------------------------------ Sender: "trm:rochx2:xerox.ns"@Xerox.COM Date: 12 May 86 13:40:15 PDT (Monday) Subject: Paradise drives From: "trm:rochx2:xerox.ns"@Xerox.COM Reply-to: "trm:rochx2:xerox.ns"@Xerox.COM I think this question has been asked before, but I never saw an answer. Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about Paradise hard drives for the Mac? The prices are getting very cheap. Are they bankrupt or still a viable company. There are no local dealers so I'd hate to buy a pig in a poke. Tom Moenter ------------------------------ Date: Thu 8 May 86 08:14:06-PDT From: Malcolm B. Brown <MBBROWN@SU-SCORE.ARPA> Subject: PostScript errors arising while printing In the past month, with the arrival of the Mac+, Laserwriter+, new versions of the System, Finder and Laserwriter drivers, I've noticed an increase in PostScript errors arising while printing. You get a message saying that while your file is intact, it can't be printed due to some PostScript error. Sometimes the error message generated by the Postscript interpreter will be flashed on the screen (e.g. "Offending Command: "). When this occurred in a MS Word file of mine, no amount of copying of the file could get rid of the bug. I finally saved the file as text and then reformatted the text, and this worked. I have a user who is reporting the same thing, only with all kinds of files--MacWrite, MacDraw, macPaint. I would be grateful if anyone might share any information on this problem. I'm not even sure about the exact locus of the difficulty: is this an error in the generation of Postscript on the Mac, or is it symptomatic of a problem in the Appletalk? If you send mail to my account (MBBROWN@SU-SCORE) I'll summarize to INFO-MAC. thanks! Malcolm Brown ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 86 7:35:39 EDT From: "Robert E. Yellen" (IMD-TSD) <ryellen@ARDC.ARPA> Subject: Word Tools I read with interest a full page ad in the June 86 issue of MacUser, page 103. It describes Word Tools, a puncuation, spelling, and grammer checker of text files. Has anyone used this piece of software yet? If so can you post a little review ot it so I can determine if it's worth buying. I'd be willing to post the results to the net. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 86 11:48:12 mdt From: ihnp4!alberta!cavell!david@seismo.CSS.GOV (David Gordon) Subject: Software Engineering Tools on the Mac We are inquiring as to the existance of software engineering tools available on Macintosh or IBM PC. These are to be used by students in a third year software engineering course for their course project. We would like tools for the following areas: o requirements analysis and specification o software design and documentation o software verification and testing tools o DP project management tools At this time the tools used are on the order of MacWrite, MacProject, and MacDraw, and we wish to improve on them. BTW is there a product using the diagramming techniques of Martin and McClure? David Gordon, Department of Computing Science University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2H1 { ihnp4, sask, decvax!uw-beaver!ubc-vision }!alberta!david ------------------------------ Date: 13-MAY-86 17:11 MEZ From: U02F%CBEBDA3T.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Franklin A Davis) Subject: Mac-Textile? A friend is designing textiles with MacPaint, and has heard rumors of a real textile design program for the Mac. Any info? Please respond directly. Thanks -- Franklin <U02f@CBEBDA3T.BITNET> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 86 20:59:58 PDT From: <CER2520%RITVAXC.BITNET@Lindy> Reply-to: CER2520%RITVAXC.BITNET@SU-Forsythe.ARPA Subject: MacCOBOL Date: 14 MAY 86 14:20-EST From: CER2520@RITVAXC To: INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM Subject: MacCOBOL Hi there! I received a copy of the flyer from Micro Focus about Mac COBOL and I thought I would share this with you. There is other information that is not included in the flyer I received are: * Suggested Retail Price is $495 (rather steep) * Comes with two thick volumes of documentation * User Guide and language reference * Software Support by Micro Focus If any of you have any questions or have more information on this, please send me a line. C. Reid Rochester Institute of Technology ****************************************************************************** [Exerpted from the flyer by MicroFocus] Mac COBOL (tm) Announcing the first high performance integrated COBOL Compiler on the Apple Macintosh (tm) Mac COBOL (tm) is a fully integrated high level certified ANSI 74 compiler for the COBOL programmer. Mac COBOL takes full advantage of the features of the Apple Macintosh and allows its user to switch programming tools with a single click of the mouse and get instant response time. 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COBOL source files from other micros and recompiling for use on the Macintosh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mac COBOL, Applications Support Modules, and Macworks are trademarks of Micro Focus. Macintosh, Lisa 2, amd Macwork's are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In the U.S.A.: Micro Focus Incorporated Micro Focus Incorporated Sarah Rebecca Hart (Sales Office) 2465 E. Bayshore Road 1700 Rockville Pike, Suite 400 Suite 400 Rockville, MD 20852, U.S.A. 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