[mod.mac] INFO-MAC Digest V4 #76

INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA.UUCP (06/05/86)

INFO-MAC Digest          Thursday, 5 Jun 1986      Volume 4 : Issue 76

Today's Topics:
                  Alternative (PC-compatible) keyboards
                    Re: Pascal Compilers for the Mac
                              SAT software
                            PC MacBridge Link
                      LightspeedC bug (a minor one)
                      Event masks in Modal Dialog?
                    request for mac tracing mechanism
          Appletalk: What's Minimum Software Needed to Use It?
                      billiards posted to sumex-aim
                        Usenet Mac Digest V2 #43
                        Delphi Mac Digest V2 #21
                        Usenet Mac Digest V2 #44
                        DEMO DESIGNSCOPE POSTING
                         Cauzin Softstrip Report
                                 TINCAN


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Date: Thu, 29 May 86 09:38 PDT
From: "Skinner Darr"@LLL-MFE.ARPA
Subject: Alternative (PC-compatible) keyboards


     Those seeking alternative keyboards for the Macintosh might check with
Computer Parts Mart at 634 North 8th St., San Jose, CA 95112, (408)993-9011.
Their ad in the May issue of Computer Shopper, p235, contained a box on the
"Un-quiche Keyboard."  They say they have developed a translator box which
allows any IBM PC compatible keyboard to be used with the Mac, listed at
$99.  This doesn't quite get one to a DEC-style keyboard, but some very
non-IBMish PC keyboards have been developed by independents.

     I have not dealt with the company, seen the product, have no financial
interest . . .   But I do have an interest in this, and would appreciate
hearing from anyone who checks further.

Darrell Skinner
UW-Madison, Physics

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Date: Thursday 29 May 1986 22.44 CST
From: Samir Kaleem  <XSAK%IECMICC.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Pascal Compilers for the Mac

Re: Pascal Compilers for the Mac



As per Gorry Fairhurst's question, there are two compilers available currently
for the Mac. The one that I use is called TML Pascal, and is an excellent
compiler for a reasonable price. It's currently in it's second upgrade (v1.1)
and is fully compatible with the Mac+. The linker provided is fully HFS
compatible, and both MDS Link and Consulair Link compatible. I have found it
very useful indeed.


TML Pascal
P.O.Box 361626
Melbourne, Florida 32936
(305) 242-1873


The second compiler is MacPascal. It used to be just an interpreter, but the
new version 2.0 includes a compiler. Since I haven't seen it, I don't know
much about it.

I have nothing to do with TML Pascal, but simply am a user.

Later....Samir Kaleem   Bitnet: XSAK@IECMICC.BITNET
                        Arpanet: XSAK%IECMICC.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU

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Date: Thu, 29 May 86 20:33:20 edt
From: mayerk%UPenn-GradEd%upenn.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA
Subject: SAT software


>I am looking for a software package that asks questions of the user
>to train you for taking the SAT and/or GRE tests.  This request is
>for a friend, who has a Macintosh.  She said she had seen something
>like this for an IBM, and wanted to know if anything was available
>for the Mac.  Public domain?  Shareware?  Commercial?

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I can warn you NOT to buy the Hayden SAT prep software, if that is any help.
My familly purchased it for my younger step-brother.  He used it once, maybe.
The interface is lousy and the on-line help analysis isn't all that useful.
You're probably better off buying Baron's "phone book" for a fraction of the
price of SAT software.  I make this statement with full knowledge that nothing
is as constant as change.  It may be that there is a FANTASTIC SAT/GRE prep
package out there (shareware, $10!) but I haven't heard about it yet.

Your question points out something that many others have also noticed:  There
aren't many educational software packages for the Macintosh.  This seems very
odd since the Mac is probably best suited for teaching; more than any other
machine on the market.

Hope this helps.

Kenneth Mayer

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Date: Wed 4 Jun 86 18:24:10-EDT
From: Robert Cartolano <US.RTC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject: PC MacBridge Link


   I am looking for a card which places the IBM PC onto AppleTalk.
I have heard of Tangent Technologies PC MacBridge link, which places
a PC onto AppleTalk, and provides software for PostScript conversions
from Word, WordStar, and MultiMate files.  Does anyone have experience
with this product, or any other products which provide the same function?
Please send mail to me, and I will post responses to the net.

Thanks,
Rob Cartolano
US.RTC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU
Columbia University
User Services

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Date: Thu, 29 May 86 16:39 EDT
From: SOWELL%FSU.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA
Subject: LightspeedC bug (a minor one)


I have discovered what I think to be a bug in the LightspeedC compiler,
albeit a minor one.  The code below generates an error message:

static int foo();       /* This generates an "invalid function definition"
                         *      message. I can see nothing wrong with it.
                         */
main() {}

No where in Kernighan & Ritchie or Harbison & Steele can I find a
restriction against a static function DECLARATION. (N.B. This is a
declaration not definition!) LINT on a VAX passes this with no fuss, with
or without the static declaration.

As I said, this is a minor bug which can be avoided by removing the static
storage class from the declaration.  This generates a warning, however, on
at least one other compiler.  I like for my function declarations to match
the definitions and find this annoying.

Glenn Sowell    <SOWELL%FSU.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA>
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Florida State University

(904) 644-1010

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Date: 29 MAY 86 21:17-EDT
From: BELSLEY%BCVAX3.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: Event masks in Modal Dialog?

Am I correct in concluding that Modal Dialog ignores KeyUp events?  I don't
see any mention made to this effect in IM, but my FilterProc responds to
all other events of interest, but not KeyUp.  Assuming this to be the case,
is there any way to force it to respond to KeyUp's?

As per usual, many thanks in advance for all comments.

david a. belsley
boston college       belsley@bcvax3.bitnet

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Date: Thu, 29 May 86 15:56:56 edt
From: Rob Rutenbar <rutenbar@gauss.ECE.CMU.EDU>
Subject: request for mac tracing mechanism

I'm looking for a way to trace mouse and key events
as users interact with arbitrary applications.  We need to
put people in front of a Mac and record how they interact
with particular tools;  we want to record to disk and later play
back the complete session.  I've seen these sorts of mechanisms
embedded in games to replay the game to the point at which
you stopped.  Is there a general desk accessory that does this?
In particular, I need something to work with MacDraw.
Any pointers will be appreciated.

	Rob Rutenbar,  Carnegie Mellon Univ
	Arpa or CSnet:  rutenbar@gauss

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Date: Tue 3 Jun 86 11:33:47-PDT
From: Tony Siegman  <SIEGMAN@su-sierra.arpa>
Subject: Appletalk: What's Minimum Software Needed to Use It?

Another person and I have 512K Macs in adjacent offices.  Suppose we hook
them up with Appletalk connectors and cable.  What's the minimum currently
available software that will enable us to have any kind of communication,
especially "noncooperative" communication?  I assume we can both run
something like MacTerminal simultaneously, and talk cooperatively to each
other; and I understand there are bboard and mail programs that one can
run on Macs;  but is there anything in between?  (What we'd like is to be
able to reach into the other's disks to copy a file, without the other
person having to be running a specific program; or be able to leave a
file out for "pickup" by the other person; or any other kind of intermittent
communication that doesn't require both persons to be simultaneously running
a special program.)
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Date: Tue 3 Jun 86 11:40:07-PDT
From: Tony Siegman  <SIEGMAN@su-sierra.arpa>
Subject: Addendum to Appletalk Software Inquiry?
To: info-mac@sumex-aim.arpa
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Suppose a lab group has 6 Macs, all interconnected with Appletalk, and
we're willing to dedicate one to do nothing but be a "server", or mail
station, or file transfer agent, or whatever, for the rest of them?
What do we need, or what's minimum available software available to
accomplish this, on the server and on the rest of the Macs?

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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 86 23:03:18 EDT
Subject: billiards posted to sumex-aim

Does anyone have the billiards.help file for the billiards program
recently posted to info-mac?  Thanks.

John

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Date: 31 May 86 10:27:06 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #43

Usenet Mac Digest          Saturday, 31 May 1986      Volume 2 : Issue 43

Today's Topics:
     Lightspeed C, desk accessories, and BUGS
     MacMeth from PhD Nick.
     Programs to fix bad disk???
     SCSI drives and sources thereof
     Mac Plus and external video signal
     Aztec C assembler bug?
     Re: Lightspeed C, desk accessories, and BUGS
     Re: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #20
     Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator
     Smalltalk-80 status for the Mac?
     Plotters and CAD/CAM
     Re: MacDraw upgrade wishes
     Re: >64k code segs. WAS: Aztec C assembler bug?
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Date: 1 Jun 86 13:18:07 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #21

Delphi Mac Digest          Sunday, 1 June 1986      Volume 2 : Issue 21

Today's Topics:
     RE: Hard Disks
     RE: ThinkTank and Acta
     RE: Spelling checkers
     RE: Spelling checkers
     System 3.2
     Re: Network Hardware
     RE: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #41 (Re: Msg 8454)
     RE: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #41 (Re: Msg 8468)
     RE: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #41 (Re: Msg 8490)
     prolog II
     RE: LINT again
     Re: Alternative keyboards for Macintosh
     RE: PackIt II problems
     Reply to Pseudo-DMA Question
     Re: Laserwriter + MS Word Problem on Print Merge (with fix)
     Lisa ROMSwitch
     RE: List Manager (Re: Msg 8396)
     DIZero problems
     RE: DIZero problems (Re: Msg 46)
     RE: DIZero problems (Re: Msg 84)
     system enhancement?
     RE: system enhancement? (Re: Msg 8594)
     Health software development
     3.1.1 HFS Bug
     RE: 3.1.1 HFS Bug (Re: Msg 66)
     Re: MacDraw upgrade wishes
     KanjiTalk (TM)
     Pro-Tek from First Byte
     Internet reply: interrupt button hang
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Date: 4 Jun 86 16:16:47 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #44

Usenet Mac Digest          Wednesday, 4 June 1986      Volume 2 : Issue 44

Today's Topics:
     Re: MacDraw upgrade wishes
     Request for help with SFGetFile
     Some items from MacTel (a UK bbs)
     MIDI Help
     MazeWars
     Patching Megaroids
     Mockwrite font bug?
     TT512 Rebuttal
     Re: MacDraw upgrade wishes
     Re: Lightspeed C, desk accessories, and BUGS
     Re: Request for help with SFGetFile
     Re: MacDraw upgrade wishes
     Re: Red Ryder version 9.2 posted in net.sources.mac
     Configuring the SCC chip on the Mac
     re: Mac Video request...
     Using Laserwriter etc.
     Re: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #21
     Help: Travelling with a Mac
     Microsoft Filer data formats.
     Re: >64k code segs. WAS: Aztec C assembler bug?
     Re: Request for help with SFGetFile
     STELLA System Modeling software
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Subject: DEMO DESIGNSCOPE POSTING
Date: Fri, 30 May 86 05:08:40 PDT
From: clark@rand-unix.ARPA

To the info-mac moderator:

Appended to this message is a demo version of DesignScope (TM), an
electronic design tool for the Mac, published by BrainPower, 24009
Ventura Blvd., Suite 250, Calabasas, CA 91302 (818/884-6911).  It
is posted with the express permission of BrainPower (with whom I have
no connections other than friendship with some of the principals).
It may be copied/reposted/passed on freely.

This posting is in BinHex4/PackIt2(compressed) format.  It contains
the demo application, several example files, and documentation in
MS-Word format.

This is an interesting but LARGE ( > 330K ) posting of a demo of a
commercially available product;  I leave it to the moderator to decide
whether it merits archiving on sumex (I have not posted it elsewhere).

John Clark
clark@rand-unix.arpa


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Date: 30 May 86 13:03:39 EDT
From: KSPROUL@RED.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: Cauzin Softstrip Report


I have one of these things and love it...  I have been able to read anything
from stuff xeroxed out of a magazine, to strips printed in, GET THIS,

a NEWSPAPER!!!!...  The thing works very well, and reads the programs from the
ads and also from the articles in NibbleMac...

I also have used it on my Apple IIe, although the software is not as fancy
on the IIe as it is on the mac, it also works extremely well...

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Date: Thu, 29 May 86 17:27:11 edt
From: cperry@mitre.ARPA (Chris Perry)
Subject: TINCAN

Does anybody have information on TINCAN, a terminal emulation
and file transfer program for the Mac?  It's supposedly a product
of Yale University's computer center.  I'd appreciate:

	*  General information on capabilities
	*  Performance data
	*  Use limitations, good experiences, horror stories
	*  Names and net addresses of current users
	*  Any other useful info

Are there advantages to using TINCAN over other FTP/emulator
packages like Kermit?

Thanks very much...in advance.

Chris Perry
(cperry@mitre.arpa)

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