lah%ucbmiro@Berkeley (06/05/85)
From: lah%ucbmiro@Berkeley (1st Lt. RYN Leigh Ann Hussey) Just to satisfy my curiosity, how much fantasy have you read, discounting The Sword of Sha Na Na, which you justifiably lambaste (by the way, you should know that among fantasists, far from it's being held up as "shining light", it is a watchword for bad fantasy. If there is any light/hope involved, it is, "If Del Rey will by *THAT* then there must be some hope for me..." :-), and the Darkover books which you also mention. (Yes, MZB's writing is spotty. We all have bad days.) Have you read The Charwoman's Shadow and Don Rodriguez by Lord Dunsany? Mistress of Mistresses by ER Eddison (also The Worm Ourobouros, if you like extended strategy, intricacies of politics, and swordplay. MoM is my favourite of his, but I thought I should mention his first...)? Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and Grey Mouser books (great Sword & Sorcery, the exemplar of the branch, RE Howard notwithstanding)? And for more contemporary stuff, The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle (beautiful language; astonishing and right juxtapositions of words)? Diane Duane's Door books, and her juvenile "Wizardry" series? The Murry and Austin family series by Madeleine L'Engle (juvenile, but worth it!)? The Traveller in Black by John Brunner? And numerous works by Poul Anderson, Avram Davidson (The Phoenix & the Mirror is great!), Mildred Downey Broxon, John Gardner (The Wierdstone of Brisingamen and The Moon of Gomrath are my favourites)? And one last old source, the incredible A. Merritt (The Ship r, The Face in the Abyss, The Moon Pool; like poetry, but you never find out until you read it out loud)? HP Lovecraft is good too, but I prefer his older stuff -- the collection called The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath is very nice, though some events are presented as scary and are more fascinating than frightening. But then, Lovecraft was afraid of everything :-) These are my favourites (ATTENTION, WHOEVER'S DOING THE POLL!). I have discovered in the course of many book discussions in the Mythopoeic Society (info supplied on request...) that it is much easier to tear a book to shreds (figuratively!) than to say good things about it. Why cannot the same language used to criticise be used to commend? Why must commendation be limited in its descriptive terms -- you'll find much more subtlety and exactness of word choice in a pan than you will in a rave (at least I do). What books DO you like, David, and why? And one final note: yes, authors tend to write things they are sure will sell money; perhaps you have a comfortable and steady income. Very few working writers today are independantly wealthy -- we have to eat too. Perhaps you will eventually find yourself having to write a piece of code you're not proud of. Think of the writers you denigrate then, eh? Maybe you should write the kinds of stories you like, if you aren't satisfied with existing works. It is not all that easy, as I hope you'll find. Ahem. End of flame. Leigh Ann ("Fantasy Book", Dec. 84)
kay@warwick.UUCP (Kay Dekker) (06/07/85)
In article <2201@topaz.ARPA> lah%ucbmiro@Berkeley writes: >Mistress of Mistresses by ER Eddison (also The Worm Ourobouros, if you like >extended strategy, intricacies of politics, and swordplay. >Leigh Ann At last! someone else who likes Eddison! Personally, I preferred _A_Fish_ _Dinner_in_Memison_, but all four are so enjoyable that it's a *very* close thing indeed (apart from the spotty beginning forur pages or so of TWO). Anyone else out there who appreciates ERE? BTW, for FRP people, I'm designing a campaign based around TWO, TMG, AFDIM and MOM.... should be fun. Any FRP ERE-readers are more than welcome to make suggestions about it to me. Kay. -- "In a world without rational structure, even the most bizarre events must eventually take place." -- Philip Avalon, "On the Resurrection of Reagan" ... mcvax!ukc!warwick!flame!kay