INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA (Moderator David Gelphman...) (09/04/86)
INFO-MAC Digest Wednesday, 3 Sep 1986 Volume 4 : Issue 109
Today's Topics:
Re: disk-inserted events
Error in Finder 5.3?
Anyone else had problems with Finder 5.3?
Delphi Mac Digest V2 #39
Delphi Mac Digest V2 #40
Delphi Mac Digest V2 #41
Usenet Mac Digest V2 #66
Usenet Mac Digest V2 #67
Usenet Mac Digest V2 #68
Apple's Latest Software Releases
TeX from FTl???
PostScript Film Recorder
COBOL for the MacIntosh?
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 86 23:45:11 mdt
From: dlc%a@LANL.ARPA (Dale Carstensen)
Subject: Re: disk-inserted events
After reading the moderator's note, it may be we are not talking about the same
phenomenon, but, then again, maybe we are. I was talking about inserting a
floppy, getting a very abbreviated period of the drive motor turning, then
getting an "eject or initialize" dialog. If I select eject, I get another
"eject or initialize" dialog. If I use the bent paper clip eject, then select
eject in the dialog, the dialog doesn't come back.
If the problem is that the events are being discarded, then having a
non-Finder (and non-Manx-shell) application running should keep the event
queue flushed, maybe. And having a get- or put-file dialog up may produce
the behavior the moderator mentioned. I guess I would get to test these
theories within a day or two if I ran JClock again, but I think maybe I've
had a put-file dialog up and got the "eject or initialize" dialog when I
inserted a floppy. I just don't remember. I know I have had to click
somewhere in the put-file dialog to get the 3.2 System version to notice that
a floppy had been inserted. But maybe once the "eject or initialize" dialog
happens, something in the disk driver's variables is clobbered, and only a
re-boot can fix it? Apple doesn't provide enough information about their
disk driver for me to figure it out. I've spent about 10 hours trying to
figure out what's going on, but I've basically given up. Maybe eventually
we'll get a 3.3 that works as well as 3.1.1 did for me.
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 86 21:01+0100
From: Ralph <MartinRR%multics.cardiff.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK>
Subject: Error in Finder 5.3?
Despite assurances from apple that this is error free, I had the
following happen to me. I have an HD20 with about 12-13M of data on it.
I decided to rebuild the desktop by saying option-command while booting.
I got the are you sure dialogue, and then off it went. After much
disking about, I got an ID=02 bomb box. I tried rebooting, and I got
the "this disk needs minor repairs" box. So I said yes, and after much
whirring, I got the ID=02 bomb box again. And the same happened when I
tried rebooting again.
I thought Oh dear, blast, bother and other polite things like that, I
have to restore my hard disk from floppies - it will only take me a week
or so!
Then I had a brainwave - try using finder 5.2, as supplied with my hard
disk. Much to my relief, this managed to make the necessary minor
repairs. But I sure aint gonna try rebuilding my desktop again in a
hurry.
Does apple (or anyone else) have any comments on this sad story ?
Ralph
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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 86 09:44 EDT
From: Paul Christensen <PCHRISTENSEN%rca.com@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject: Anyone else had problems with Finder 5.3?
This is a bug that I've encountered several times with the Finder,
but it's not consistent enough for me to submit a bug report form.
It occurs on Finder versions 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, and (I'm sorry to say) 5.3,
with System 3.2. I am using an Apple 400K external drive on a Macintosh
512K enhanced, although I have also encountered the problem on a MacPlus
with an Apple 800K external drive. New Sony double-sided disks are the
destination media, so that should not be a problem.
The problem occurs when I'm trying to copy a number of files. Since I
am merging a number of my 400K MFS disks onto 800K HFS disks, often this
will involve 50 or more files in one copying. At times, I have copied
over 90 files with one drag.
Usually, if the 800K volume has just enough space to hold the files that
will be copied from the 400K volume, the Finder will permit the copying
to begin. But because of the catalog information that is maintained on
HFS volumes, there may not be enough space on the 800K disk after the
heirarchies have been established. Under these circumstances, the
Finder should (and usually does) warn that one or two files couldn't be
written. Occasionally, though, I have had such mass copies procede
normally with no alerts, when ONE OR TWO FILES WERE NOT COPIED!!!
Has anyone else noticed this problem? I would like to have it firmly
documented so that the folks at Apple could have a chance to correct it.
My temporary solution has been to compare the number of files in each
folder on the source and destination volumes after a copy.
- Paul Christensen
CSNET: PCHRISTENSEN@RCA.COM
[ note from moderator: I too have had the problem noted above but never
noticed files missing without warning. In almost all cases the skipped
files could be copied by merely trying to add just those skipped files
to the destination disk. Even though it couldn't do it before, a second
shot almost always works...this is a very annoying bug and if indeed sometimes
files aren't copied without warning it is quite dangerous. DAVEG ]
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Date: 3 Sep 86 11:01:54 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #39
Delphi Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 39
Today's Topics:
RE: Lisa C HFS Interface (2 messages)
Medical/Dental (3 messages)
C/EraseRect problem (2 messages)
-108 with Font/DA Mover (12 messages)
OverVUE export?
Reflex (nee Interlace) (7 messages)
Mach I - FORTH
LaserWriter and Lotus 1-2-3 (3 messages)
RE: EXPO news? (Re: Msg 12147)
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Date: 3 Sep 86 11:02:42 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #40
Delphi Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 40
Today's Topics:
Carrying cases for Mac and hard disk (2 messages)
Hard Disk Test
tiny tips (2 messages)
TROUBLE (2 messages)
Servant on PD? (4 messages)
DISKEXPRESS FROM ALSOFT (2 messages)
Ancient art of war (2 messages)
Thunderscanned Mice (5 messages)
ROM forgeries
OK, Microsoft..... (2 messages)
one more note...
ETH Modula-2 Load Modules
HD20 on a MacPlus (5 messages)
Hard Disk Drive Reliability (11 messages)
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Date: 3 Sep 86 11:03:26 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #41
Delphi Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 41
Today's Topics:
RE: Hard Disk Drive Reliability (Re: Msg 12236) (9 messages)
TOPS
Hierarchical Database? (8 messages)
INVENTORY PROGRAM
International Modem
RE: HFS Backup 1.1 (Re: Msg 9831) (4 messages)
FullPaint ...
Laser+ Memory (2 messages)
Big Mac Screens
RE: HD20 Boot problem
LaserWriter memory
RE: reaction to wordhandler
RE: Need help with LightSpeed C (Part II (Re: Msg 640) (2 messages)
RE: Aztec C future (Re: Msg 647) (4 messages)
SICN use (3 messages)
Undo in a famous editor
trap vectors (5 messages)
Memory Manager glue in Aztec C
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Date: 3 Sep 86 16:43:49 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #66
Usenet Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 66
Today's Topics:
Experience with 2 meg upgrades for the 512
Re: Medical Uses of a MAC
Re: problem with regions
Bitmap problems w/LaserWriter
How to draw a Region around a random Line?
critcal applications
Re: Flopping line in MacPaint (rubberband line)
MacTutor Considered Harmful
Re: MacTutor Considered Harmful
Consulair's Mac C compiler
Psion Chess Inquiry
Request for help with Standard File
Re: Icon port to Macintosh
Re: Flopping line in MacPaint (rubberband line)
Re: How to draw a Region around a random Line?
surrounding lines with regions
MAC memory upgrades
How to surround lines with regions
MacPublisher II comments
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Date: 3 Sep 86 16:44:53 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #67
Usenet Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 67
Today's Topics:
Re: MacTutor Considered Harmful
Re: 19200
Easy3d, anyone know their data file format??
Re: Lockout comments
Micah AT-30?
MacWorld Show impression
Re: Bitmap problems w/LaserWriter
Re: MacTutor Considered Harmful
Re: Consulair's Mac C compiler
Re: MacWorld Show impression - big screens
Re: Analog to Digital on the Mac???
New Stuff at Boston
Toolbox & C help!
Bug in Other 2.01
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Date: 3 Sep 86 16:46:13 EDT
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #68
Usenet Mac Digest Wednesday, 3 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 68
Today's Topics:
upgrading: RAM to 4 Meg, 12.5MHz 68000, more
Status of Icon for the Mac
Re: Stack Sniffer
Central Point Software's 800K Drive
ComicWorks (again)
Dbase for the Macintosh
Graphics Library for Mac Languages
Acoustics program
Re: Request for help with Standard File
OpenResFile behavior
Re: comicworks ( comment on previous message + description/review )
Re: comicworks ( comment on previous message + description/review )
Displaying PostScript on the Mac
burroughs --> LW problems
Need accounting package
Wanted:IP/TCP package for Macs
Background Programs
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 86 21:17 EDT
From: Paul Christensen <PCHRISTENSEN%rca.com@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject: Apple's Latest Software Releases
Macintosh software is frequently revised -- so often that it is very
difficult for users to keep track of the latest versions.
In the past few months, Apple has released new versions of many of their
products. You may find the following list helpful in keeping your
software library current.
Note that Apple has a policy of providing updates free of charge
ONLY TO REGISTERED OWNERS of the software. You simply bring
your ORIGINAL DISK to your local dealer, and chances are he will
have the update disks.
SOFTWARE PRODUCT LATEST VERSION DATE RELEASED
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MacPascal 2.1 6/25/86
MacProject 1.1 6/18/86
MacProject Guided Tour 1.1 6/18/86
MacTerminal 2.1 6/17/86
ResEdit 1.0alpha1 2/28/86
REdit 1.2 1/7/86
Localizer 2.0 5/9/86
System 3.2 6/4/86
Finder 5.3 6/4/86
ImageWriter 2.3 6/4/86
AppleTalk ImageWriter 2.3 6/4/86
LaserWriter 3.1 6/4/86
LaserPrep 3.1 6/4/86
Font/DA Mover 3.2 6/4/86
Installer 2.2 6/4/86
The Namer 2.1 6/4/86
- Paul Christensen
CSNET: PCHRISTENSEN@RCA.COM
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Date: 3 Sep 86 13:55:00 EDT
From: <bouldin@ceee-sed.ARPA>
Subject: TeX from FTl???
Reply-to: <bouldin@ceee-sed.ARPA>
Does anyone know the address of a company called FTL?? They are supposed to
have a release of TeX for the Mac. I want to compare this wih the Addison
Wesley TeX before I buy one. Address or phone # appreciated.
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Date: 3 Sep 86 14:07:05 EDT
From: KSPROUL@RED.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: PostScript Film Recorder
I want to purchase a !GOOD! film recorder for making 35 mm slides that is
useable from the Macintosh by way of PostScript!!!.
Lasergraphics (17671 Cowan Ave, Irvine CA 92714) is currently working on such
a beast, HOWEVER, there unit is not good enough for want I need, it is only
2000 lines resoulution...
What I really want is 4000 lines such as is available from MATRIX with their
PCR and QCR. I spent this morning at MATRIX talking with the Director of
Marketing, John Patberg and explained what I needed and why, (I wont go into
the details of why here, besides that is not important.) What he wants to know
is, if they (MATRIX) invest the $100,000 it cost to license PostScript from
Adobe, will they sell enough units to make it worth their while...
If you are interested in getting a HIGH quality film recorder such as this,
John Patberg of MATRIX would like to here from you. His address etc is:
John Patberg
Director of Marketing
Matrix Instruments Inc
1 Ramland Road
Orangeburg, NY 10962
(914) 365-0190
Write him a letter, or better yet, call him, mention my name if you want, and
tell him that you would be interested in buying a high resolution film recorder
(these units are in the $15-$25,000 price range). If he gets enough responce
they will probably go ahead and make the unit, if not,, well....
The usuall disclaimer, I have nothing to do with the above mentioned companies.
I am just interested in getting the device I described...
I would also be interested in hearing from anyone that is interested in this
type of application, either by phone, or E-Mail
Keith Sproul
KSproul@Rutgers.arpa
(201) 563-5389 7am-3:30pm est
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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 86 10:27:29 PDT
From: milburn (john milburn) @ lbl-csa5.arpa
Subject: COBOL for the MacIntosh?
Does anyone out there know of a COBOL programming system for the MacIntosh.
I have a 512k Mac.
EMail: Milburn@lbl-csa1.doe.gov
Bell: (415)486-5831
1 Cyclotron Rd
Berkeley, Ca 94720
-jem
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