SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU (Jeffrey Shulman) (09/08/86)
Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, 7 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 43
Today's Topics:
news in fits
RE: news in fits (Re: Msg 12418)
RE: news in fits (Re: Msg 12418)
Goodbye Kisses
RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12395)
RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12409)
RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12419)
RE: DataFrame Print Spooler (Beta 1.2) P (Re: Msg 12385)
RE: DataFrame Print Spooler (Beta 1.2) P (Re: Msg 12385)
Radius FPD
RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 12417)
RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 12509)
RE: Medical/Dental (really Cauzin comments)
RE: PostScript Film Recorder
Hyper2000 vs. HFS
RE: Hyper2000 vs. HFS (Re: Msg 12438)
RE: Hyper2000 vs. HFS (Re: Msg 12469)
TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000
RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12440)
RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12440)
RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12523)
interlace fields
Dasch vs. TOPS
Disk Tags?
RE: Disk Tags? (Re: Msg 12455)
Steve Capps Monkey DA
RE: Steve Capps Monkey DA (Re: Msg 714)
RE: Steve Capps Monkey DA (Re: Msg 716)
RE: TOPS
Greek Fonts?
RE: Greek Fonts? (Re: Msg 12487)
Sector Tags
RE: French/Italian Fonts? & HFS Disk checker
RE: French/Italian Fonts?
TROUBLES WITH ODD/CONSULTANT USED IN A M
RE: TROUBLES WITH ODD/CONSULTANT USED IN (Re: Msg 12510)
HyperDrive 2000 and MazeWars+
PRINCETON MACFEST'86!
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From: MOUSEKETEER (12405)
Subject: news in fits
Date: 4-SEP-19:44: Mousing Around
Well, no sooner had I wondered about an Apple SCSI disk than I read in the
9/1 Computer+Software News that Apple will be showing a new Mac 8Mbyte HD
during the week of Sept. 15, along with the new Apple //GS. They report
that Apple will announce 12 new products that week, but the only other one
specificaly mentioned in the article is a //GS Mouse, which won't be sold
separately until January. (They do say a standard Mac mouse will work on
the GS as well). The only other rumors are that Apple will also announce
a price reduction on the Mac 512E.
NEAT NEW GAME, AND IT'S FREE!
This weeks Time magazine has a free game bound into it, and it's loads of
fun! It's disguised as an advertisement for Transamerica. You open a
page and the skyline of SanFransisco stands up off the magazine like the
pop-up books for kids. But by grabbing both sides and twisting them, you
can play "The Big One In SF". Add a few life-like sound effects and it's
a treat for the whole family!
Alf
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From: MOUSEKETEER (12421)
Subject: RE: news in fits (Re: Msg 12418)
Date: 4-SEP-22:27: Mousing Around
Ya, it's odd, but the article says 8 Meg. Kind of a Mini-HD? (grin)
No mention of price at all. They may have to settle on a size before they
decide a price...hehe.
Last I heard, GS stood for Graphics/Sound. Since we have a few days to guess,
how about Go Sculley, or Get ST!
Alf
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From: BMUG (12461)
Subject: RE: news in fits (Re: Msg 12418)
Date: 5-SEP-22:57: Mousing Around
I heard the GS stood for "Great Sound", at least internally, among
folks who had heard the sound chip in the new machine!
-- Raines / Team BMUG
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From: DDUNHAM (12415)
Subject: Goodbye Kisses
Date: 4-SEP-21:28: Network Digests
> Won't a properly written DA set its flags to request a goodbye kiss from
> the OS in case the application exits out from under it?
I certainly think so...that's why Acta and miniWRITER field goodbye kisses. My
article in the much maligned June isue of MacTutor (or was everyone maligning
the other issues? :-) explains a bit about goodbye kisses.
Some DAs don't use goodbye kisses, so my article suggests closing open DAs
before quitting (as Jason Haines, the original message poster, pondered).
David Dunham "If voting could change the system, it would be illegal. If
Maitreya Design not voting could change the system, it would be be illegal."
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From: PDNNOG (12409)
Subject: RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12395)
Date: 4-SEP-21:24: Bugs & Features
You may want to contact the makers of Justtext. they have some utility that
converts the stuff to postscript that can be embedded with text.
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From: PEABO (12419)
Subject: RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12409)
Date: 4-SEP-22:16: Bugs & Features
True, but the JustText T-scan converter will produce a file even
bigger than the T-scanned file! (Unless you are cropping it heavily.)
It *does* work though. Unfortunately also, the fiel I ran it on had
grey scale, and the T-scan conversion obediently screened it for me,
which is not what I wanted at all ...
peter
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From: DDUNHAM (12520)
Subject: RE: TScan blues (Re: Msg 12419)
Date: 6-SEP-21:32: Bugs & Features
I don't care about the size of the file, I just want to be able to get
the thing into PageMaker. Printing is easy (I think TScan itself can
do that with no problem, and I could capture the PS output that way).
I need a PICT. (I may want to do my own screening of different types
once I get my LW.)
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From: DDUNHAM (12412)
Subject: RE: DataFrame Print Spooler (Beta 1.2) P (Re: Msg 12385)
Date: 4-SEP-21:27: Hardware & Peripherals
I'm pretty sure MacPaint (and probably FullPaint) use the ImageWriter
directly (not going through the normal dialogs, or the high level
Print Manager). To see if this is the problem, try printing with
miniWRITER, which I know for a fact uses the low level print calls.
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From: LAMG (12457)
Subject: RE: DataFrame Print Spooler (Beta 1.2) P (Re: Msg 12385)
Date: 5-SEP-21:40: Hardware & Peripherals
Actually, I've had another type of problem with the beta DF spooler - when it's
"active" (ie, printing a file) any keypresses are "doubled" lliikkee tthhiiss..
That led me to remove it fast - anyone else have THIS problem. ? (BTW, I
haven't used it on MacPaint files). -Franklin
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From: DDUNHAM (12417)
Subject: Radius FPD
Date: 4-SEP-21:29: Hardware & Peripherals
Well, it's out now, so I can talk about it without breaking my promise
to Alain Rossman.
There really were _3_ large screens at the Boston show; Radius was
hard to get to. Theirs is the one I bought. It's 640*8xx, big enough
for a full page with room for menu and scroll bars. It sits on the
side of the Mac, and is in a very similar case (it's the same height).
It's 75dpi, which may be good (better match with LaserWriter) or bad
(one pixel no longer is one point) (there's a Mac global which is the
screen resolution, so programs can accomodate). What makes this
machine great is the Hertzfeld software. It can show a full page
MacWrite document (others are limited by the fact that you can't
stretch a MacWrite window bigger than a Lisa screen). Andy puts zoom
boxes on all windows (hopefully not on the Scrapbook any more; this
was the only bug I saw in Boston, not a font bug as Raines reports).
I'll let you know more when I receive mine (hopefully in a couple
weeks).
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From: PEABO (12420)
Subject: RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 12417)
Date: 4-SEP-22:21: Hardware & Peripherals
Another interesting point about the Radius machine (now I can talk too!) was
brought out partly by Raines/BMUG in his report: DAs will run off the Mac
screen (and so will modeless dialogs) so it's very handy to drag such stuff off
the Radius screen and onto the Mac screen.
Plus, you can even have a dialog box half on one screen and half on
the other, since the pixel locations are designed to match with the
height of the screen so there is no break in the image!
BUT, if you try to move your disk and trashcan icons off the Radius
display, it won't let you because the Finder doesn't understand the
idea of an upside-down L shaped screen. It knows only about
rectangles!
peter
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From: BMUG (12544)
Subject: RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 12509)
Date: 7-SEP-15:32: Hardware & Peripherals
I saw a bit more of the radius screen around the show on Saturday, and
saw the best demo of all: by Andy Hertzfeld & Burrell Smith! Most
software works well with it. The Finder doesn't know about the Mac
screen, but can use the entire Radius. MacPaint doesn't know about
it, of course; FullPaint does, sort of, I think... SuperPaint will let
you put your pallette at top of the screen to take advantage of MOST
of the screen. ComicWorks is the best; it lets you put your tools on
the Mac screen & dedicate the whole page to graphics. Andy's software
teaches most applications to have a "zoom box" (like MacDraw), and
cmd-zoom will zoom a window to the full Mac main screen.
Double-clicking in the menu bar will make the cursor DOUBLE SIZE (good
for demos), and option-cursor-moving to the bottom edge of the screen
will wrap around to the top (so you don't have to go ALL THE WAY UP to
get to a menu). Option-dragging the grow box of a window lets you
make it be on BOTH screens... great for WIDE excel documents, so you
can see many more columns. They have software to level the screens
(so that windows come out even), and a nice control panel for
specifying right- or left-screens, and whatnot). They do cursor
movement scaling so you can get from top to bottom a little faster.
The screen is 75 dpi for better equivalence to the LaserWriter, and for a
slightly clearer picture. It is slightly eye-straining to look at both the Mac
& the Radius screens at once... since the pixel size, etc. vary slightly.
I heard reports that several of the screens at the show broke down during the
course of the show... not too surprising. There are a total of 75 (approx)
screens in existence so far, all hand-assembled. Total production for October
is expected to be 150. Developers may get them sooner than dealers, according
to Micheal Boich & Alain Rossman.
The screen is incompatible with anything else that clips onto the CPU (like
HyperDrives or Micahs or some memory upgrades). It seems like there would be a
need for a TWO-Socket CPU clip for the Mac, given the many things that now need
a CPU clip.
-- Raines / Team BMUG
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From: ELEL (12429)
Subject: RE: Medical/Dental (really Cauzin comments)
Date: 4-SEP-23:04: SIG Business
My last message got slightly garbled so let me restate something here.
As Dave Dunham has found out; I like the Cauzenites. Inspite of their
marketing. it's a great product and one I use a lot for paper-LAN-ing.
Matter of fact I've got an IBM-Mac LAn set up at the hospital using
standard Cauzin stuff. There are GOOD people hiding out there, and
they are VERY much in business and support. Where else have you ever
gotten ANY after-sale support with a $200 peripheral? (make that
after-sale..) in the manner that Cauzin does? The technology is good.
I've NEVER had a hardware failure in the reader. EVER. If you need to
talk to someone there (like maybe to licesne the SS to use in the
newsletter?) call Rick Mason (Manager of Software Delevopment) at
Cauzin and tell him Dr. Larry sent you. You'll get action. I think
Cauzin has gotten an undiserved bash from your message. As a matter of
fact, the only reason I saw it was thru Jeff's digest to Usenet (I
must have skipped over it somehow..) and really dont think they
deserve the rap you laid on them at all. --Larry
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From: INC (12434)
Subject: RE: PostScript Film Recorder
Date: 5-SEP-06:56: Network Digests
>Date: 3 Sep 86 14:07:05 EDT
>From: KSPROUL@RED.RUTGERS.EDU
>Subject: PostScript Film Recorder
Keith- The product is def. needed but the price seems a bit steep. However,
there's surely a use for it, especially at a company where I am currently
working. I will give them a call and express interest. Keep us informed
about any new discoveries you may have.
josh wachs
MacInTouch
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From: MACINTOUCH (12438)
Subject: Hyper2000 vs. HFS
Date: 5-SEP-12:07: Hardware & Peripherals
We finally received a HyperDrive 2000 loaner from GCC for review.
Problem 1:
It has the old ROMs and 400K internal drive (Really!), and I haven't been able
to get it to handle 800K disks or HFS, despite a lot of fooling around. Putting
Apple's Hard Disk 20 file on either the HyperDrive itself or on a boot floppy
resulted only in crashes and the inability to boot. Attaching an 800K
external drive didn't work either.
It does seem fast, and I'll be running a bunch of benchmarks on it shortly.
It has 2MB of RAM (Apple's 512K and GCC's 1.5MB), which can be configured into
variable-sized partitions for GCC-cache, RAM disk, System heap and Application
Heap. The RAM disk can be set to auto-load files.
The 2000 hardware seems to be one board almost the size of the Mac logic
board, positioned right above it (are we creating an oven here?). The 68000
and 68881 are square chips on that board.
The unit we got is as loud as a MicahDrive.
Ric Ford
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From: PEABO (12469)
Subject: RE: Hyper2000 vs. HFS (Re: Msg 12438)
Date: 5-SEP-23:50: Hardware & Peripherals
We'll be interested to hear if the GCC cache is write-through or not.
peter
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From: MACINTOUCH (12492)
Subject: RE: Hyper2000 vs. HFS (Re: Msg 12469)
Date: 6-SEP-11:11: Hardware & Peripherals
I'm under the impression that it is, but the literature I have does
not say that specifically. I'll try to figure it out and report more
later.
One note: GCC recommends _not_ using their cache with a Macintosh Plus, but
rather using Apple's cache from the Control Panel and disabling the GCC cache.
They call Apple's "more flexible"
Ric
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From: MACINTOUCH (12440)
Subject: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000
Date: 5-SEP-18:11: Business Mac
I've been struggling with the HyperDrive 2000 and TOPS, hoping that TOPS
might enable me to use the 800K drives on the _other_ Mac. No go. After
trying a variety of approaches (TOPS install first, then HyperInstall; the
reverse; booting from floppies, etc.), I'm extremely pessimistic about TOPS
running on this machine. The error messages involve problems connecting
with AppleTalk. Other times, the HyperDrive hangs or just refuses to
recognize the other nodes.
The single thing which did work on the HyperDrive 2000 was to boot the unit
directly from the TOPS disk. This is fairly useless, because the 20 MBytes
of disk and the 1.5MB of RAM are inaccessible. I suppose the processor
might be faster, but I haven't tested that yet.
Ric Ford
"MacInTouch" newsletter
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From: BMUG (12463)
Subject: RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12440)
Date: 5-SEP-23:10: Business Mac
Ric -
doesn't Centram have some advice about Hyperdrive compatibility in their
"release notes"?
-- Raines / BMUG
P.S. At last night's BMUG meeting, someone brought up HyperDrives. A quick
survey found a couple of interesting people:
>> one who had THREE HyperDrives, of which 2 were broken >> someone
else who had SEVEN HyperDrives, struggling to get the new system,
etc. to work properly, who has strongly considering trashing 'em and
getting another cheap SCSI.
We should be getting a GCC rep to one of our meetings soon.
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From: DDUNHAM (12523)
Subject: RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12440)
Date: 6-SEP-21:33: Business Mac
Without HFS running (from ROM or Hard Disk 20 file), you're not likely to do
well reading 800K disks, no matter where they are.
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From: MACINTOUCH (12532)
Subject: RE: TOPS vs. HyperDrive 2000 (Re: Msg 12523)
Date: 6-SEP-22:47: Business Mac
Silly me, I thought maybe I could boot an 800K System 3.2 from the external
drive if it included the HD20 file.
Ric
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From: RONB (12441)
Subject: interlace fields
Date: 5-SEP-18:14: Business Mac
I meant to resplond to you r post about interlace and fields from
multiple files awhile back, but I've been detained (see later
message). If I understand your question, the way to get multiple
fields is to use a repeating collection to a linked field, whioch
gives you a window on that file to select fields from. A repeating
collection can be nested into another collecton. I've been able to get
(without much help from the manual) all kinds of fields to output.
Ron.
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From: MACINTOUCH (12442)
Subject: Dasch vs. TOPS
Date: 5-SEP-18:15: Business Mac
I've also been trying to run TOPS using a Dasch
external RAM disk. This is one of those situations where you wish the
external RAM disks worked from the SCSI or floppy disk port instead of
the AppleTalk or modem port.
The other problem was that I was unable to get the Dasch to boot from floppy
with TOPS installed. I got that silly problem where the Dasch cannot
start up if it's "already started." Somehow, the TOPS installation was
causing something to be executed twice at boot time instead of once.
Fortunately, Centram provides a Start TOPS application. This worked fine, and
I was eventually able to run TOPS from the Dasch, without any other disks
involved.
Ric Ford
"MacInTouch" newsletter
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From: MACSPARKY (12455)
Subject: Disk Tags?
Date: 5-SEP-21:25: Hardware & Peripherals
What are disk tags? All I know about them is that the Apple HD20, Hyperdrive
FX20 and Dataframe 20 external SCSIs are supposed to support them.
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From: BMUG (12465)
Subject: RE: Disk Tags? (Re: Msg 12455)
Date: 5-SEP-23:17: Hardware & Peripherals
I'm not quite sure what tags are, but I can tell you what they do.
>>> A drive has to support 532-byte sectors to support tags
>>> They contain some sort of indication of "file#" for each sector.
>>> In the event the directory is trashed, it is possible to recover
files on a disk with Tags, using FEdit or whatnot.
>>> Apple floppy disks (400 & 800K), the HD20, and the Profile currently
support tags.
>>> The DataFrame 20XP will have the CAPABILITY to support tags.
>>> The Micah 30-meg (RLL) upgrade is rumored to have the capability to
support tags.
>>> Tags slow things down somewhat, according to a friend of mine.
I hope the above helps.
-- Raines / Team BMUG
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From: DANAMAC (714)
Subject: Steve Capps Monkey DA
Date: 5-SEP-22:16: Tools for Developers
Does anybocdy out there use Steve Capps Monkey DA for testing their programs?
If so could you describe how you determine what events the monkey followed to
cause the program error? Or just discuss in general how you use the Monkey to
test programs. Any discussion would be appreciated...
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From: PEABO (716)
Subject: RE: Steve Capps Monkey DA (Re: Msg 714)
Date: 5-SEP-23:44: Tools for Developers
Monkey is kind of a brute force technique for testing, precisely
because of the problem you just mentioned ... how do you discover what
it did to lead up to the crash? A fun party game is to make bets on
how long the Monkey will run before comitting suicide by quitting the
application. (That's another problem if you are looking for something
to run unattended.)
Don't EVER run Monkey on a disk with data you care about keeping.
peter
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From: FFANDERSON (717)
Subject: RE: Steve Capps Monkey DA (Re: Msg 716)
Date: 6-SEP-01:14: Tools for Developers
If I use Monkey, I generally follow the advice that has been
published about it and, inside #ifdef DEBUG ... #endif blocks, test
MonkeyLives for >= 0. If so, my application does no writes, exits, or
prints. No big deal
Of course, I keep my disk with Monkey on it far away from the others, and mark it with a skull and crossbones.
BTW, I more than suspect that it is not hard to design an application that is more robust than Monkey. Most of the time, TMON shows the whole thing destroys itself inside the Monkey code.
-- F
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From: BMUG (12480)
Subject: RE: TOPS
Date: 6-SEP-02:28: Network Digests
To: Robert Berlinger
...{philabs,cucard,pegasus,ihnp4,rocky2}!aecom!naftoli
What version of TOPS on PC & Mac are you using? I believe there is a new
release, dated just before the MW Expo in Boston (Aug 14) that fixes
various bugs and whatnot.
BMUG helped out Centram by holding a couple of "Crash TOPS Parties" while
the system was in development. We ironed out a lot of bugs, some of which
seemed similar to the ones you mentioned above. Yes, the Finder and
the Mac system in general are not ideal for multiple users... but
would you rather be using MacServe?
-- Raines Cohen
Team BMUG
Delphi: BMUG
GEnie: BMUG
CIS: 70007,2271
MCI Mail: BMUG
BMUG BBS: (415) 849-BMUG
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From: MACSPARKY (12487)
Subject: Greek Fonts?
Date: 6-SEP-07:27: Creative Pursuits
Does anyone know of any Greek fonts available for the Mac?
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From: MOUSEKETEER (12497)
Subject: RE: Greek Fonts? (Re: Msg 12487)
Date: 6-SEP-12:45: Creative Pursuits
There are quite a few Greek fonts for the Mac for various uses.
SMK GreekKeys is, I think, primarily classical and biblical greek
forms, with added keys to form the myriad diacritical marks used.
SMK, 5780 Blackstone Ave, Chicago, IL 60637 (312) 947-9157. $25
retail.
AlphaMathFonts includes 8 separate fonts, one of which is the Greek alphabet,
for use in writing mathematical formulas. It includes routines to write the
formulas under a radical or fraction bar. Alpha Systems, 349 Paseo Tesoro,
Walnut, CA 91789. (714) 598-6742. $39.95 retail.
Classical Greek is available for the Laserwriter from Allotype Typographics,
1600 Packard Rd #5, Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 663-1989. $85 retail. They
are also bringing out modern Greek for the Laser.
There are others, I think, that I just don't have info on at arms reach. If
neither of these would fit your purpose, I'd be happy to check in the Library
of Rodent (grin).
Alf
BTW, I think the Rice Math Font includes the Greek alphabet for math usage.
It's PD if I remember correctly. Developed locally at Rice University.
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From: BRECHER (12498)
Subject: Sector Tags
Date: 6-SEP-16:23: MUGS Online
To: Werner Uhrig <CMP.WERNER@R20.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: my Micah-Drive crashed - no file-tags ....
The MicahDrive 20 AT does not support sector tags; neither does the DataFrame.
The MicahDrive 30 AT (and XTs -- externals), announced at the Boston MacWorld
Expo but not yet shipping, will implement sector tags. The 20 AT can be
upgraded to a 30 AT.
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From: DDUNHAM (12525)
Subject: RE: French/Italian Fonts? & HFS Disk checker
Date: 6-SEP-21:34: Network Digests
> From: baron@runx.OZ (Jason Haines)
> Subject: French/Italian Fonts?
> Are there any fonts available that are suitable for writing in French
> & Italian?
Sure, Chicago, New York, Geneva, Times, Helvetica, ... They all have the
necessary symbols (at least for French; I don't know Italian, but I think the
necessary accents are provided). I got the same request from someone else: is
there something I'm missing?
> From: stew@endor.harvard.edu (Stew Rubenstein)
> Subject: HFS Disk checker
Sounds like you want MacExpress from ALSoft. Of course, once it tells you
something's wrong (that's about all it tells you), you can't do a whole lot
except erase and restore your disk.
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From: MOUSEKETEER (12531)
Subject: RE: French/Italian Fonts?
Date: 6-SEP-22:04: Network Digests
Italiana ita don'ta need'a very many accacents at all! Ita doesa make'a
inatensive'a use'a ofa the letter A, howaever.
The'a Zapfa Dingabatsas fonta make'a ita pretty easy to talka Italiana,
because'a its has a lots'a little pictures ofa hands'a!
;-)'a
Alf'a
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From: PETRO5 (12510)
Subject: TROUBLES WITH ODD/CONSULTANT USED IN A M
Date: 6-SEP-20:28: Business Mac
I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN USING THE SOFTWARE OD/CONSULTANT IN A MAC
PLUS. THE PROGRAM WORKS, IN GENERAL, BUT THE AIDS OF DECISION MAKINGS
AND BRAIN STORMING DON'TWORK AT ALL.THE VERSION I HAVE IS 1.1 OF 198 D
1985. I WOULD APPRECIAT VERY MUCH YOUR HELP.THANKS
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From: MOUSEKETEER (12535)
Subject: RE: TROUBLES WITH ODD/CONSULTANT USED IN (Re: Msg 12510)
Date: 7-SEP-01:32: Business Mac
I can't find ODS/Consultant listed on any of my "update" lists, but it might
be the company has issued an update to work on the Plus. The most recent
listing from the company I have is for a program called ODS/Solution Center,
which is stated to run on the Plus.
You should probably just give the company, ODS,Inc. a call and ask about the
update, or write. 1011 E. Touhy, Ste. 535, Des Plaines, IL 60018.
(312) 699-4156. They used to have an 800 number, but I don't know if it's
still in effect... 1-800-628-2828 ext. 575.
Good luck!
Alf
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From: MACINTOUCH (12517)
Subject: HyperDrive 2000 and MazeWars+
Date: 6-SEP-21:23: Hardware & Peripherals
Trying to debug other problems with the HyperDrive 2000 (trouble
connecting with the LaserWriter), I thought I'd try MazeWars+ as a
good AppleTalk application. After some abortive attempts, resulting
in system hangs and the like, it did actually run successfully.
These pseudo-random problems on AppleTalk seem to be a characteristic of this
HyperDrive 2000 system, and will probably take some time to pin down.
Ric Ford
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From: JEFFS (12549)
Subject: PRINCETON MACFEST'86!
Date: 7-SEP-18:01: MUGS Online
[ From the MacNet BBS ]
HEAR YE! HEAR YE! HEAR YE!
Announcing details of the 3rd annual Princeton MacFest!
(For details not covered, please call (609) 452-6002)
WHAT: PRINCETON MACFEST'86
WHEN: SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH
WHERE: WOODROW WILSON, UNIVERSITY CAMPUS
HOW: EASILY REACHABLE BY TRAIN OR CAR! (Train drops you off
right on Campus - a 10 minute walk to MacFest'86
ADMISSION: Attendees FREE; Vendors $50
WHO: ...lecturers will include:
Andy Hertzfeld (Old hand - fresh from China & Radius)
Cathy Hoolihan (Apple User Group's)
Guy Kawasaki (Newlywed - tired from Honeymoaning)
Peter Maruhnic (Author of Lightspeed Pascal at THINK)
Phil Nelson (Graphic Specialist, now with Apple)
Scott Watson (Author of Red Ryder v10.0)
(also, there may be someone in a cowboy
hat if he can be coaxed a bit more...)
VENDORS!
SEMINARS!
from 11am (or 12) until 4pm:
PROGRAMMING!
(Peter on Pascal, and Scott on C.)
COMMUNICATIONS!
Scott Watson & ??
DESK TOP PUBLISHING!
Apple/Phil Nelson on Graphics,
Desktop Publishing,
Mac and Graphics
BEGINNERS!
Apple on Introduction to Macintosh
DOOR PRIZES!
3 copies of MORE, and more...
PUBLIC DOMAIN SOFTWARE!
SPEAKERS!
Guy Kawasaki - keynote speech 4:30-6pm
Wedding slides, etc.
Andy Hertzfeld - lecture 6-7pm
Andy on whatever Andy wants!
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