INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA (Moderator David Gelphman...) (09/30/86)
INFO-MAC Digest Monday, 29 Sep 1986 Volume 4 : Issue 122 Today's Topics: MODERATOR ERROR Hard Disk 20 SC Levco Prodigy 4 exorbitant? RE: MacMemory Upgrade Horror Story DA-SETPATHS.HQX UTILITY-SUPERMAC-30.HQX usenetv2-79.arc chinese word processor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 86 20:37:27 PDT From: <DAVEG@SLACVM.BITNET> Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.Edu Subject: MODERATOR ERROR Unfortunately I made an error while preparing a recent info-mac digest and at least 10 submissions were deleted. I ask those who may have submitted something to infomac between Friday Sept 26th and Sunday Sept 28th to please resubmit your items again. Again I am sorry for the goof up...hopefully everyone will repost and any important messages will not be missed. Thanks for your patience, David Gelphman, moderator ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 86 23:17:25 PDT From: c160-ed@zooey.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Norman Fong) Subject: Hard Disk 20 SC We just got our Apple HD20sc in today..here's some unbiased dirt on it: Size about same height as HD20, length is about 1 inch longer! than mac! width is the same as a mac.One red led in front, lights up when drive is active. Fan is noisy! As noisy as a becktech fanny mac. Drive does not make much noise during access. FLAME ON! Drive does not come with cables! You have to buy a scsi cable.. WORSE YET! you have to buy a fricking SCSI terminator! ($40!) because the drive doesnt have one builtin, as does every single other drive on the market. I think this sucks royally! FLAME OFF! It comes with software..some at least. Find File DA, a HFS global search-type utility..(useful if you forget a path) and Disk First Aid, a great disk scavenger/recover program for ANY HFS volume inc. DS disks and hard disks. Havent used it personally, but have heard it works. Drive performance: When formatted, 19264K is available. Where's the other 536K? (Floating in the bit stream?) DiskBench 1597 1594 and 234. Not too fast..Good Access time though DiskTimer 20.5 20.5 Acces 3.8 (Fair) (Dataframe 40 gets 13.4 13.7 3.8) Actual speed diference approx 10% slower. IE excel loads in 10s on HD20sc, 8s on Dataframe. The drive retails for $1298 which is high compared with $1098 Dataframe and $599 Jasmine drive? Its just comes down to whether you can afford the $$ to buy a reliable drive from Apple. We sure will trust this sucker more than any other scsi drive as the HD20 NEVER gave us problems, guess the extra $$ was insurance.. Hope this helps.. Norman Disclamer: I Dont work for Apple or any hardware manufacturer. Claimer: I work for FWB Software, which sells software geared for hard disks, so I hope I know what I am talking about...(Sometimes) ------------------------------ From: stew%lhasa.UUCP@harvard.HARVARD.EDU Date: 29 Sep 86 11:21 EDT Subject: Levco Prodigy 4 exorbitant? Before you flame them too badly, remember that they are operating under a major limitation: whatever they do has to fit into the Mac case. The major part of that price is 4 Mb worth of 1Mbit memory chips, between $2200 and $3600 currently (I don't know what speeds or quantities they're getting). For a while they were talking about a Prodigy 2 with 2Mb of 256Kbit chips at quite a bit less; I haven't heard any more on this... Stew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 86 22:11 PDT From: PUGH%CCV.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA Subject: RE: MacMemory Upgrade Horror Story While I am very sorry for Werner, it is things like this reaffirm my cowardice and urge to inspect everything that is done to my Mac. When they told me they could wedge another banana board in there, I wasn't sure I believed them. Now I'm glad I didn't. I would advise others of the same thing. Remember, without internal vigilance it could happen to you! ------------------------------ Date: Mon 29 Sep 86 11:19:30-PDT From: Barry Eynon <EYNON@SU-SCORE.ARPA> Subject: DA-SETPATHS.HQX To: info-mac@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA Message-ID: <12242849247.53.EYNON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Here (from GEnie) is Setpath v1.3. To quote from the manual: Set Paths is a desk accessory which maintains a list of up to five path names. Once Set Paths has been used that list will be searched any time a file open operation occurs. The point is that if the file is not found where the programmer told the system to look, the system will start searching your list of paths and will fail to find the file only if it is in none of them. Hopefully this will solve a number of incompatibilites that arise with some applications running under HFS - you know, the ones that require that their working files be in the same folder as the application. The main purpose of Set Paths, though, is to make life easier for developers who have source files, object files, compilers, linkers, and editors littered all over their disks. -Barry Eynon [ ARCHIVED AS [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DA-SETPATHS.HQX DAVEG ] ------------------------------ From: korn%cory.Berkeley.EDU@BERKELEY.EDU (Peter "Arrgh" Korn) Subject: UTILITY-SUPERMAC-30.HQX Date: Mon, 29 Sep 86 13:41:49 PDT It seems that many folks out in net.land own DataFrame 20s. I just got permission from the kind folks at SuperMac to post their latest update...so here it is. This file contains a binhexed, packit-ed file containing SuperSpool3.0, the queue DA, & docs; SuperPark & docs; and Update (who's function I'm somewhat confused by, but at 4K, I figured it's worth putting in). Peter Peter "Arrgh" Korn I know lots of honorary jews! Why, korn@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU some of my very best friends {decvax,dual,hplabs,sdcsvax,ulysses}!ucbvax!korn are honorary jews! [ ARCHIVED AS [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-SUPERMAC-30.HQX DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 86 13:58:43 EDT From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: usenetv2-79.arc Usenet Mac Digest Monday, 29 September 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 79 Relational Database Query Scroller / pager ResEdit bugs Re: DataFrame changes Re: Warning about More MacServe Info Wanted Re: DataFrame 20 (actually, shutting down Mac) LightspeedC Update! Apple HD20sc Re: Odd Mac+ behavior (and "mouse thaw" FKEY?) Converting DMS Design MacSCSI to Mac+ compatability Re: Porting UNIX Applications to the Mac Virtual drive packages Review of SMASH HIT RAQUETBALL Aztec C vs. LSC? Wierdness with serial drivers Wanted: TextEdit class for NEON Re: Keyboard Layout Pascal pointers vs. Mac pointers Keyboard Re: BYTE issue of September 86 focuses on the 68000 Convering Data fork stuff to a CODE resource DiskTimer results Re: STR# resources (Re: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #45) [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>USENETV2-79.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 29 SEP 86 14:42-EST From: AEBERSOL%WILLIAMS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: chinese word processor Our East Asian Language department is trying to locate word processing software which will handle Chinese text. Any advice/recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Dennis Aebersold aebersol@williams.bitnet ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************