SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU (Jeffrey Shulman) (10/30/86)
Delphi Mac Digest Thursday, 30 October 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 55 Today's Topics: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14178) (7 messages) PhoneNet/LaserWriter+ problems (3 messages) New Excel Version Re: Re: Prob: interpreting Pascal to C - Computers and Medical Charts (3 messages) Packbits News from the Meadow RE: LightSpeed C/Loadseg hangs! (Re: Msg 935) (3 messages) MS Word 3.0 for the Mac (5 messages) RE: Word 3.0 -- A Mirage? (Re: Msg 14275) (2 messages) Re: Lisa to Mac compatibility Weird font problem DrawMenuBar() tidbit alarm clock menu blink RE: TeX (Re: Msg 14274) RE: INFO-MAC Digest V5 #2 (Re: Msg 14282) (2 messages) Word / WriteNow Dataframe Squeal (2 messages) DiskTimer results ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HSTARR (14186) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14178) Date: 25-OCT 14:45 Programming Try a _FlushVol on the volume before you Eject it. ------------------------------ From: DMCWHERTER (14187) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14186) Date: 25-OCT 15:37 Programming OK, I'll try it, but I think that's going to update sector two also. Thanks ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (14190) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14187) Date: 25-OCT 20:47 Programming If the problem is the fact that there was another disk in that drive prior to the copy, you should Eject(vRefnum), UnMountVol(vRefnum) to tell the OS to forget that disk completely, then handle the Disk Insert Event for the target disk (MountVol(drvnum)), do your copy, then Eject, Unmountvol the copy. Maybe this will help! ------------------------------ From: DMCWHERTER (14207) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14190) Date: 26-OCT 11:44 Programming That's not exactly the problem. It's the Eject itself that causes sector two to be updated (written with old data). In fact I've discovered that just mounting an HFS disk also causes sector two to be written (with the volume write count field bumped by one). I think I've got it solved by effectively nop'ing the _Write trap until I <really> want to do a write. That stops the unwanted updates which occur on Mount and Unmount. Thanks for your help. Dave ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (14210) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14207) Date: 26-OCT 13:43 Programming As noted to you elsewhere: Offline copy using device-level calls to .Sony driver Eject Unmount ------------------------------ From: PEABO (14225) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14207) Date: 26-OCT 19:41 Programming Are you using something like IAZNotify to make sure you don't lose control (as by a bomb) with the _Write trap still jiggered? peter ------------------------------ From: DMCWHERTER (14227) Subject: RE: DS copier beta - problem (Re: Msg 14225) Date: 26-OCT 19:51 Programming Thanks to Steve Brecher's suggestion, I don't have to 'jigger' the _Write trap. To my mind, that's a relief just for reasons you suggest. BTW, Disk Dup+ in the database must have had the same problems I had 'cause he also plays with the _Write trap. I don't know if he uses IAZNotify, though. Dave ------------------------------ From: MADMACS (14188) Subject: PhoneNet/LaserWriter+ problems Date: 25-OCT 16:35 Hardware & Peripherals We recently installed PhoneNET in our offices. I have had trouble getting the thing up and running smoothly (I am responsible for it) and am appealing to you all for some help. The problem is this: We can not get out LaserWriter Plus to come on to the network with out causing problems. I notice that when I connect a Mac to the net using the control pannel, the connection is rapid when the LW is offline and very slow when it is on. Since the main reason for the net is to print, we must have the LW on the network. I have tried printing to the LW with a single Mac connected to it, and that usually works (although it is still a little flaky sometimes). But when I connect in the rest of the PhoneNet printing stops and the status window in MacWrite just shows "status: preparing data" As soon as I disconnect the other line to the LW (i.e. only on Mac is connected to it) the printing continues. I have tried various ways of connecting the LW on the net but without success. I bought MazeWars+ (to test the network, of course) and that works fine when the LW is not on the net, but slows way down as soon as the LW is included. This tells me that the network and the connectors are OK. SO what is the deal with the printer? Is there someting special to get it to work OK? And yes, I am using system 3.2 on all of the Macs, and have tried LW driver 3.1 and 3.1.1b. Help!! And THANKS! Our shop technician, who ran all of the wires, and is very pro-IBM-clones is getting ready to pounce!!! -Doug (MADMACS) ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (14251) Subject: RE: PhoneNet/LaserWriter+ problems (Re: Msg 14188) Date: 27-OCT 08:51 Hardware & Peripherals I wonder if it's a problem with the L.W. itself. Can you substitute AppleTalk cabling for the PhoneNet cabling just for a test? Maybe you could get the dealer to check out the L.W.? Ric ------------------------------ From: MADMACS (14319) Subject: RE: PhoneNet/LaserWriter+ problems (Re: Msg 14308) Date: 29-OCT 22:21 Hardware & Peripherals Thank you all for your suggestions. And yes, we did call Farallon and they suggested that it is a problem with termination of the lines. This was the case, apparently. They suggested one way of terminating the lines and our technician said that it should be done another way. (Sorry, but he did not tell me the details, I can find out if you are interested.) Basically, if you leave the ends of long runs un-terminated you get bad reflections that confuse the network. The solution is to put a 120 Ohm resistor across the yellow and black (PhoneNet) wires at the ends of the long runs. (This is and impedance match that makes it appear as if the wire is infinitely long.) So once this was done everything was working perfectly (my faith restored). The technician, howver, is still stubborn (won't those IBM'ers ever concede that the Mac can do anything well). When I pointed out that or about $34 a node and the cost of phone wire, we had set up a local area network that servers three floors and (presently) thirteen Macs, he was not phased. I don't know much about the "token ring" and such, but we didn't have to buy a thing extra, besides the connectors and the wire. No boards or rewiring. And each member of the network assigns itself a unique ID when it joins-- besides the reflection problem it was basically hassle free. Now I can print anything that (most) any Mac program can generate--at 300dpi and nearly WYSIWYG. Oh well, you can't teach old dogs new tricks. Thanks again for your help, -Doug ------------------------------ From: MACSPARKY (14193) Subject: New Excel Version Date: 26-OCT 00:20 Business Mac When is version 1.05 of Excel available to owners? ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (14196) Subject: Re: Re: Prob: interpreting Pascal to C - Date: 26-OCT 03:17 MUGS Online To: dlc%a@LANL.ARPA (Dale Carstensen) Subject: Re: Re: Prob: interpreting Pascal to C - HELP! > The routine that has VAR thePt:Point where Inside Macintosh states only > thePt:Point is MenuSelect ... Evidently Lisa Pascal and some other > development environments correct IM's error in their "glue." IM's description of MenuSelect(startPt: Point) is correct; the parameter is passed by value; it is not a VAR parameter. ------------------------------ From: PIZZAMAN (14213) Subject: Computers and Medical Charts Date: 26-OCT 16:26 Business Mac The most amazing thing happened at the hospital yesterday. I was accused of unethical behavior because I used my computer to prepare a conference for the Department of Surgery! Let me explain.... I am the Clinical Coordinator of the Department of Surgery at a rural community hospital. This is a voluntary job, in addition to my regular practice of surgery. My responsibilities include the preparing of the mortality and morbidity conferences each month, as well as trying to put together educational topics of interest for the other surgeons. Having trained at a University Hospital in Philadelphia, I enjoy doing this teaching. In order to prepare for one of these conferences, I took my Tandy 100 to the record room, and took my notes on it. When I got to the office, I plugged the Imagewriter cable into the RS-232 connector on the back of the Tandy, and using Smartcom II, loaded the information into the Mac for work processing, spread sheeting, and graph creation. Now, I am being accused of taking confidential information out of the hospital in the form of patient records and doctors names! All I had on the computer were my notes. The paranoid medical staff is afraid that having this information in my "COMPUTER" is dangerous, in some way. Since I consider my two computers just extensions of other work tools that I use, I can't understand this. Would they be just as paranoid if I used a legal pad to make notes instead of the computer? By the way, the bylaws of the hospital allow for the use of records for research, and I had permission from the President of the Medical Staff to do the study in question. Pretty amazing paranoia, huh? Do people really still fear computers this way? Any physicians out there have similar experiences? Any legal advice? ------------------------------ From: PEABO (14226) Subject: RE: Computers and Medical Charts (Re: Msg 14213) Date: 26-OCT 19:45 Business Mac It might have something to do with Legislators, who tend to know even less about computers than hospital staff. I've read some stories about how some corporations are getting concerned about what J. Q. Middlemanager is taking home to work on using his own computer after downloading from the company mainframe. peter ------------------------------ From: LAMG (14239) Subject: RE: Computers and Medical Charts (Re: Msg 14213) Date: 27-OCT 01:20 Business Mac Yes, it's paranoid behavior, but no, it's not amazing, I'm afraid. In my institution (UCLA Dept. of Radiological Sciences) most of the data used for teaching and research is in "machine readable" form at one time or another. Clearly there is a valid issue related to the removal of confidential patient records from the hospital (I don't know what the regulations are there) but these would apply equally to data whether in handwritten, printed or machine readable form. You didn't say exactly who is objecting to your work and on what grounds, but it sounds like they don't have a very good idea of what you're using the computers for. I can't give you legal advice though. -Franklin Tessler, M.D. ------------------------------ From: JIMH (934) Subject: Packbits Date: 26-OCT 19:42 Programming Techniques Does anyone know how to unpack something packed with packbits if you dont kow the original #bytes packed? thanks jim ------------------------------ From: APPLEDAYTON (14246) Subject: News from the Meadow Date: 27-OCT 06:03 MUGS Online In the Friday, October 10, 1986 edition of The Cincinnati Enquirer, Lise Olson of the Gannett News Service described the activities of a Livonia Michigan computist who illegally reproduced several of Berke Breathed's "Bloom County" cartoons, featuring the consumate hacker Oliver Wendell Jones, in an underground newsletter named Telecomputist. The Washington Post Writer's Group, which owns the strip's copyright, asked the Telecomputist to "cease reproduction of 'Bloom County' comic strips or images of 'Bloom County' characters." Andrew S. Rosen, counsel for the Washington syndicate, "decided not to seek the death penalty in this situation" but said that the reproduction was a "serious matter." Jones and his "Banana 6000" personal computer are popular symbols among Apple Macintosh enthusiasts. According to Al Leeds, sales manager of the Washington group, small publications can legally reprint the strip for as little as $6.50 a week. In addition to flouting the copyright laws, Telecomputist published such information as Secret Service radio frequencies and classified goverment phone listings - the kind of thing that gives hackers a bad name. Breathed is sympathetic to hackers but not to rip-off artists. He warned: "If we catch you, we're goin to nail your toes to the wall and hang you upside down, pull out your tongue and dip it into a nest of red ants. Let this be a warning." ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (938) Subject: RE: LightSpeed C/Loadseg hangs! (Re: Msg 935) Date: 27-OCT 00:46 Programming Techniques The same thing has happened to me. However, it had creamed the MacTraps library. It had put a $0000 across an instruction in FSRead, causing all sorts of weird crashes at non-sequitor locations. (It had creamed the argument popping cleanup of the stack). My only resort was to replace MacTraps from a master. I have never been able to reproduce the problem. ------------------------------ From: CHUQ (940) Subject: RE: LightSpeed C/Loadseg hangs! (Re: Msg 938) Date: 27-OCT 23:44 Programming Techniques Just to keep people informed, I recompiled my program from scratch (re loading all 5 libraries and 30-odd source files...). No change in functionality -- it still hangs in loadseg. It looks like it isn't a corrupted application file (sigh). I AM amazed that LSC could compile 55,000 lines in about 35 minutes or so -- now, if it only worked! (grin!) chuq ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (941) Subject: RE: LightSpeed C/Loadseg hangs! (Re: Msg 940) Date: 28-OCT 02:07 Programming Techniques Just a thought -- check the total amount of Initialized data that you have. From memory, I don't think it allows more than 31.?k. Also check your segment sizes. The Loadseg patch is for the CREL stuff -- it relocates certain things within CODE segs as they are brought in. Also check that 'ResLoad' is NOT False at a call to another Segment. ------------------------------ From: HALL (14259) Subject: MS Word 3.0 for the Mac Date: 27-OCT 20:14 Bugs & Features According to the Wall Street Journal, Microsoft was supposed to unveil MS Word 3.0 for the Mac today. List price: $395. It supposedly will enable Macs and PCs to easily share documents and word processing tasks. It enables documents and files produced on the Mac to be edited on the PC and vice versa. Brian ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (14277) Subject: RE: MS Word 3.0 for the Mac (Re: Msg 14259) Date: 28-OCT 08:16 Bugs & Features Yes, InfoWorld and ComputerWorld also had short pieces on it. They said that it would run with TOPS. Ric ------------------------------ From: INC (14283) Subject: RE: MS Word 3.0 for the Mac (Re: Msg 14277) Date: 28-OCT 20:01 Bugs & Features Brian, unless we read different articles, they were just _announcing_ the product today, even though it will not be shipped until early 87. (January). MS is heralding some great vaporware although the final product, which is said to be able to be read directly by IBM and Macintosh versions of Word, looks hot. Style pages, better headers, and more make it seem to still be the only choice (or at least it will be the only choice) in WPs for the Mac. Heres a hot rumor... Lotus' manuscript, recently announced for the IBM, might be making its way over to the Mac. Hmm... Josh ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER (14295) Subject: RE: MS Word 3.0 for the Mac (Re: Msg 14259) Date: 28-OCT 22:57 Bugs & Features What The WSJ didn't say is that Word 1.05 can trade files with the MS-DOS version already. Lofty ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (14298) Subject: RE: MS Word 3.0 for the Mac (Re: Msg 14295) Date: 28-OCT 23:23 Bugs & Features The reports indicated that even the new version would not be able to show multiple columns on the screen, as WriteNow can... Ric ------------------------------ From: MACMAG (14281) Subject: RE: Word 3.0 -- A Mirage? (Re: Msg 14275) Date: 28-OCT 15:29 Business Mac We've had Word 2.0 for quite some time now. We demoed it at the ICONtact party in front of a few users (DDunham, MacIntouch, MicMac) etc.. The news we have is that the program will NOT be released until 1987. Rich. ------------------------------ From: NAKMAN (14307) Subject: RE: Word 3.0 -- A Mirage? (Re: Msg 14275) Date: 29-OCT 01:23 Business Mac I was excited when I saw the InfoWorld article too, until I found out that it was based on them calling BMUG last week. <sigh> -- Raines Cohen BMUG, Inc. also known as VaporRumorMongers, Anonymous ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD (14267) Subject: Re: Lisa to Mac compatibility Date: 27-OCT 23:03 Network Digests To: richa@tekred.UUCP (Rich Amber ) Re: Lisa to Mac compatibility If you want to read the Lisa programs for Macintosh consumption, I'm presuming the programs are Pascal and that you have the Lisa Pascal Workshop running on the Lisa. If you have one of the Unix systems, or the Lisa Office System only, think about running terminal programs with the Mac ImageWrite cable on the serial ports. With the Lisa Pascal Workshop, you can read/write Macintosh-format diskettes with the Maccom utility. This is available through the Software Supplement to the Pascal Workshop, not on the original Workshop 3.0 disks. There's also a Transfer utility in the Workshop which can work as a basic terminal program on the Lisa side for transferring files to the Macintosh. Finally, MacWorks lets the Lisa run Macintosh software, but removes its ability to run or read Lisa programs. Have fun with it..I sure do. Laird J. Heal ------------------------------ From: TSTEIN (14276) Subject: Weird font problem Date: 28-OCT 07:40 Business Mac What is happening here? I am trying to capture some Vax screen images. I have Mac Terminal, Draw, and Word in Switcher on a Mac+ and a DataFrame 20. I am representing the screens in 10 point Courier. I get the screen with Terminal, select the text, Copy it, switch to Draw, and Paste it. Now, here's the fun part: The text I paste arrives in Draw in 10 pt Courier, as that is the default font I've set up. However, the size of the characters (horizontally) is not the same as the size of 10 pt Courier just typed into Draw, or pasted from Word. The text copied from Terminal is shorter than the same characters from the other sources. But it is all the same font and pointsize, supposedly. The discrepancy is small--about 31 characters from terminal equals 30 typed direct. Anybody have a clue about why this is happening? ------------------------------ From: PEABO (943) Subject: DrawMenuBar() tidbit Date: 28-OCT 02:36 Programming Techniques Don't call DrawMenuBar() from inside a routine called by MenuSelect() -- set a flag somewhere to tell your idle task to do it. Not only is this more efficient, but you will not find mysterious vertical patches of desktop grey appearing inside the menu bar. peter ------------------------------ From: RMUHA (944) Subject: alarm clock menu blink Date: 28-OCT 02:38 Inside Mac Does anyone know how to cancel the blinking apple menu once the alarm has gone off? I've figured out how to set the alarm (it's the 0x8000 bit in the SysParam.volClik word). I've read TN87(?) "Blinkin' Note" which makes a passing reference to a "time to blink" flag but naturally doesn't say where it is and what it should be set to... ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER (14293) Subject: RE: TeX (Re: Msg 14274) Date: 28-OCT 22:29 Mousing Around Ya, that's the only problem I've had with TeX, though A-W's version for the Mac is becoming more "Macish" with each release. Without a full bank of very scrollable menus, however, one couldn't really hope to allow for all of TeX's options in the Mac interface...it virtually allows control over the placement of each letter to within a tiny space. And while the control codes can seem a bit arcane, they do allow for a fantastic WP or layout construction set. If you don't like "\font\term\cmr10 scaled\magstep2" you can always define /doit to mean the same thing. So, while TeX isn't the ULTIMATE typesetting program (the one that sucks my thoughts out of a wire coming from my left ear, and lays them out in accordance with some warped vision I have in mind), it's not as bad as it sounds (at least, after you play with it for a few weeks). Alf ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER (14296) Subject: RE: INFO-MAC Digest V5 #2 (Re: Msg 14282) Date: 28-OCT 23:09 Network Digests Two comments on the INFOMAC stuff. 1. You can save Page Setup defaults as a WORD glossary entry. Not quite as nice as changing the default, but better than going to the Page Setup dialog. 2. Tom Mackie (Princeton MUG) is keeping an up-to-date list of Mac software versions. He posts from time to time on CIS, maybe GENIE too. Lofty ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (14297) Subject: RE: INFO-MAC Digest V5 #2 (Re: Msg 14296) Date: 28-OCT 23:22 Network Digests Lofty, How do you save Page Setup in the Word glossary?? Can it handle landscape vs. portrait page setup? Ric ------------------------------ From: INC (14300) Subject: Word / WriteNow Date: 28-OCT 23:44 Business Mac Do you have a working review copy of WriteNow? What are your first impressions and how does it compare with Word... josh ------------------------------ From: MACTUNES (14305) Subject: Dataframe Squeal Date: 29-OCT 01:11 Hardware & Peripherals Hi Yall... Any one had experience with their Dataframe 20 producing a high pitched squealing sound on start up. Usually last for jh just a few seconds. I was told that it was the antistatic brush. Also to expect some major crashes in possibly six months ? RJ P.S> So much for the new disk drives for the dataframe. ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER (14316) Subject: RE: Dataframe Squeal (Re: Msg 14305) Date: 29-OCT 21:50 Hardware & Peripherals On a related high pitched note, my DataFrame has started to ignore the power switch on turn on (anyone who suggests foreplay is asking for it...). I seem to recall some notes about that symptom either here or in Usenet. Anyone recall what the cure was? Thanks, Alf ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (14311) Subject: DiskTimer results Date: 29-OCT 03:59 Hardware & Peripherals These are reported results from the DiskTimer program as of Oct. 28, 1986. DiskTimer measures performance on large (32KB) data transfers and on access time (seeking, head movement). The results are independent of the file system, amount of free space, System and Finder versions, etc. There is no direct translation of these results to perceived performance in ordinary Mac usage. Multiple results from the same drive by the same submittor which vary by not more than 5% have been combined into one report by taking the best result for each of the three tests. Where three or more reports from different submittors on the same drive were available, I have omitted those having results on all three tests which fell between the best and worst shown below for that drive. Additional reports are welcome on hard disks not shown below or those which have only one report so far. Please disconnect Appletalk or other networks for the test, since network activity generates interrupts that temporarily suspend execution of the disk driver software. ----- time in seconds ----- 100 32KB 100 32KB 80 1MB Model, Vendor [Note] Reads Writes Seeks Reported by --------------------- -------- -------- ------ ------------ AST 2000, AST Research 25.7 25.5 4.7 Bill Steinberg AST 4000, AST Research 24.8 24.0 1.4 Frank Brooks Bernoulli Box 10+10 SCSI, Iomega 26.4 26.5 3.7 Netman, MacInTouch DataFrame 20, SuperMac 33.6 33.5 6.9 Robert Wiggins DataFrame 20, SuperMac 33.6 33.3 7.1 RONB/Delphi DataFrame 20, SuperMac [1] 29.0 29.1 4.2 DWB/Delphi DataFrame 40, SuperMac 13.4 13.7 3.8 Norman Fong Easy Drive 40MB, DC Systems [2] 56.4 59.5 3.7 Tim Smith Easy Drive 40MB, DC Systems [3] 18.2 42.3 3.7 Tim Smith Easy Drive 40MB, DC Systems [4] 24.2 24.4 3.6 Tim Smith Hard Disk 20, Apple 115.6 130.9 6.1 Steve Ellett Hard Disk 20, Apple 162.5 166.7 6.1 Robert Wiggins HardMAC+ 20MB, CMC 36.6 36.8 3.6 Pete Adams HardMAC+ 20MB, CMC 41.8 42.7 3.7 Joseph DiGangi HardMAC+ 20MB, CMC 18.3 18.5 3.6 C. McConathy, CMC HD20SC, Apple (SCSI) 20.5 20.5 3.8 Norman Fong HD20SC, Apple (SCSI) 20.6 20.6 3.7 Brian Hall HD20SC, Apple (SCSI) 20.5 20.6 3.9 P. Williams, Apple HyperDrive 10 (64K ROM), GCC [5] 130.8 114.0 6.1** Frank Brooks HyperDrive 10 (64K ROM), GCC [5] 132.1 131.8 5.4** Harry Conover HyperDrive 10 (64K ROM), GCC 25.1 25.1 7.8** L. Randy Lee HyperDrive 20 (64K ROM), GCC 26.5 25.0 2.9 Steve Ellett HyperDrive 2000, GCC 14.8 12.9 2.9 Harry Starr HyperDrive FX20 (SCSI), GCC 20.5 29.6 3.8 Tom Negrino HyperDrive FX20 (SCSI), GCC 20.5 30.5 3.8 Harry Starr Direct Drive 20, Jasmine 24.6 120.5 3.4 Jim Clark LoDOWN 20MB, LoDOWN 16.5 18.2 4.0 David Dunham LoDOWN 20MB, LoDOWN 16.6 16.9 3.8 Steve Ellett LoDOWN 20MB, LoDOWN 18.4 18.3 3.9 Michael Klickstein LoDOWN 20MB, LoDOWN 16.5 17.0 3.5 Bill Steinberg Mac20, Paradise (serial port) 226.4 227.1 6.7 R. W. Zehr MacBottom (serial port), PCPC [6] 68.0 112.7 6.4 Joseph Cortney MacBottom (serial port), PCPC [7] 68.4 113.9 10.1 Joseph Cortney MacBottom (serial port), PCPC 68.0 112.8 9.1 Steve Ellett MacBottom (serial port), PCPC 68.8 113.6 9.3 Robert Hafer, BCS MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 214 21.6 4.9 Steve Ellett MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 21.6 22.1 4.9 Linda Kaplan MacBottom HD21 (SCSI), PCPC 21.7 21.6 4.8 Bill Steinberg MacDrive, Tecmar 100.2 111.3 5.9 Chip Nicolais Magic 20, Rabbit Industries 18.4 42.8 3.8 Larry Halff MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 8.2 8.5 8.2 Rob Hahn MicahDrive 20 AT, MICAH 8.2 8.2 7.2 Ted May OverDrive 20/Prodigy 4, Levco 51.4 142.9 4.7 Harry Starr Photon 20, Warp Nine Engineering 23.4 28.7 3.9 Duane Williams ProApp20, ProApp 13.3 24.0 3.3 L. Randy Lee S-20+, Peachtree Technology, Inc. 21.6 21.6 4.9 L. Randy Lee S-20+, Peachtree Technology, Inc. 21.5 21.5 4.8 Dolph McCranie Notes: [1] 512E with Levco SCSI add-on and MonsterMac RAM upgrade [2] 1:1 interleave (as shipped) [3] 3:1 interleave [4] 4:1 interleave [5] These apparantly anomalous results are unexplained. [6] LaPine drive. [7] MicroScience drive. ** On HyperDrives, the seek test provides meaningful results only when run from a drawer which is contiguous for more than 1MB. Whether this was the case for these results is not known, but the results suggest it was not the case. ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************ -------