INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA (Moderator David Gelphman...) (11/22/86)
INFO-MAC Digest Friday, 21 Nov 1986 Volume 5 : Issue 14 Today's Topics: Copying Resources Lightspeed Pascal Bug, and Workaround... Lightspeed Pascal Wishes... SCSI driver id numbers? Re: Info Wanted: Macintosh in the Laboratory Macintosh in the Laboratory Posting of Moose Frazer, Launch Fkey, and LaserWriter Reset DA Xerox 9700/8700 font editor DynaBook Lives! Re: Apple's responce about Bugs in Apple Software The new system Re: Apple // emulation on Lisa RE: Wanted: the MacBinary specification RE: document can't be opened Re: Adding Fonts to the fonts menu Usenet Mac Digest V2 #95 Delphi Mac Digest V2 #60 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 86 20:23 PST From: PUGH%CCX.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA Subject: Copying Resources Can anyone help me with this? I want to copy a file's resources to another file. Is there a straightforward way of doing this? I have to play games that seem to be unsafe to close all the resource files except for the one I am looking at so that CountTypes and CountResources will only report on that file. What point am I missing? Is it possible to do a block copy of the entire resource fork from Pascal? Any clues? Reply direct please, I'm in a hurry (as usual). Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 10:56:33 est From: rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel) Subject: Lightspeed Pascal Bug, and Workaround... I was porting a program from the TML Source Code Library over to Lightspeed Pascal the other day, and LSP kept crashing on a call to GetItemStyle, which, given a menu handle and an item number, returns the QuickDraw character style of that item. procedure GetItemStyle (m : MenuHandle; item : Integer; var s :Style); LSP was crashing with an odd address exception... I called THINK, explained the problem and an hour later I got a call from one of the LSP developers. I explained the problem, and 3 hours later he had an explanation and a work-around. This piece of code generates the crash: program MenuCrash; var m : MenuHandle; s : Style; begin m := GetMenu(300); {assuming that there's a menu 300 in our resources} InsertMenu(m, 0); {put in the menu} DrawMenuBar; GetItemStyle(m, 1, s); {Pascal will crash here} DisposeMenu(m); end. The reason Pascal crashes is due to the way that LSP packs sets. They couldn't be more specific than that, though... The fix is the following: at the very beginning of your VAR declarations, declare TWO Style variables: var bogus, itemStyle : Style; when you call GetItemStyle, call it the usual way, except that after the call, look in the variable called BOGUS for the actual value, like this: GetItemStyle(menuH, itemNum, itemStyle); itemStyle := bogus; It sounds really strange, but it works. I've tried it, and it works fine. The person I talked to called it "a really slimeball fix".... It's a rather esoteric bug; however, it may also apply to other calls that return packed set-types; I don't know.... Hope this helps... --Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 11:01:56 est From: rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel) Subject: Lightspeed Pascal Wishes... When I talked to THINK, I asked if they were going to implement the Object Pascal standard on Lightspeed Pascal, and when the next release would be. They responded that they were waiting to see if Object Pascal was only a fad; they also said that they were market-driven, and they really want to hear response from users; if they get enough requests for a feature, they might just implement it... Since the good people at THINK don't have access to the net, it probably would be best if you called them directly or sent a letter; alternatively, you can all send me mail, and I'll collect the requests and send them in... --Rich Richard M. Siegel Bitnet: rs4u%andrew.cmu.edu@wiscvm Decnet: rs4u%andrew.cmu.edu@cmccte Mailnet: rs4u%andrew.cmu.edu@carnegie Arpanet: rs4u@andrew.cmu.edu US Mail: Box 698 5115 Margaret Morrison Street Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213 Phone: (412) 268-4224 Disclaimer: Disclaimers are bogus. Mannheim Steamroller rules, and Dave Grusin is his prophet, and David Lee Roth cleans the bathroom. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 86 22:45:25 PST From: <DAVEG@slacvm.bitnet> Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: SCSI driver id numbers? I've been using the Dreams of the Phoenix DA installer+ to install more than 15 DAs into my system file. I've had it work well (I've manually gone in and set the MENU nonpurgable bit myself since that is not done correctly by the program) and haven't had any problems with the extra DAs. Of course there are 10**6 DAs available now and I'd like to have even more installed than I currently do. The way the installer works is to first use the 15 'Apple OKed' slots, then the 'Apple Reserved' slots, then the SCSI drivers slots, etc. You can set this priority ordering if you wish. I've filled up all the 'Apple Reserved' slots and now am eyeing the SCSI drivers slots. The question is how do these slots work? I am currently using 1 SCSI device and sometimes use a second drive also. If I leave 2 of these slots available will I run into problems? I figure there is no problem if I never use a SCSI device. How do the driver numbers for a SCSI device get assigned? David Gelphman BITNET address: DAVEG@SLACVM Bin #88 SLAC ARPANET address: DAVEG@SLACVM.BITNET Stanford, Calif. 94305 UUCP address: ...psuvax1!daveg%slacvm.bitnet 415-854-3300 x2538 usual disclaimer #432 applies: my employer apologies for the fact that I have access to this net. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 09:48:00 est From: rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel) Subject: Re: Info Wanted: Macintosh in the Laboratory The past two summers, I worked at NASA/Langley Research Center. For the past two years, we've had Macintoshes there, that have mainly been used for wordprocessing, and preparing presentations, but not for acquisition and control, even that was the eventual goal. The programmer that was (and still is) there is a genius, but he got his degree in Computer Science, not in physics or material science, so although he's a great programmer, he couldn't write code to drive the Macintosh properly in a lab environment. Enter me. I'm an undergrad Physics major, and certified developer. My boss gave me a Macintosh with a Hyperdrive, an adaptor to connect the Macintosh's RS422 port to an IEEE-488 bus, and a task. I had to trigger a loadframe, and then read simultaneously a voltmeter and a frequency counter, store the readings, and when the run is done, plot the information on the screen, do a regression, and display the results. And of course, use the Macintosh User Interface, and be able to print the whole thing out on any standard printer (Imagewriter, LaserWriter).... I wrote the whole thing in about a month, and it ran faster than the old version of the program, running in BASIC in an HP micro. The next project was to replace an overloaded VAX 780's task of reading a Nicolet 1170 Signal averager; read the digitizer's memory, and plot the information, then save it for uploading to the Vax for processing. This task was also accomplished in about a month, using this Rs422->IEEE488 box. The Macintosh was able to perform this particular task about 4 times faster than the Vax. Basically, the Macintosh has the horsepower to read and control lab equipment. If you wanted to do real-time work, a Prodigy board (I wasn't using one, but I will be) would probably make life easier; otherwise, the serial ports, even at 57.6KBaud, are fast enough to work nicely. Also, the key is to write the critical parts (acquisition and control) FROM SCRATCH for a specific task; this guarantees that it'll run as fast as it can; of course, the basic serial i/o and user-interface routines can be re-used... If you write the code yourself, it'll invariably run faster than a commercial package such as LabView. I haven't covered everything here, so feel free to ask.... --Rich ------------------------------ From: BGT.WB%GEN.BITNET%cernvax.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Date: 21 nov 86 11:45 GMT +0100 Subject: Macintosh in the Laboratory In reply to the query by Barbara Weintraub (INFO-MAC V5 #13), CERN has experience of using MacVEE Plus systems in the laboratory for data acquisition, experiment control and monitoring, as well as for equipment development and test. MacVEE (Microcomputer Applied to the Control of VME Electronic Equipment) provides direct memory-mapped access from the Macintosh (or Macintosh Plus) to up to 8 VMEbus crates, or up to 7 VMEbus crates and 8 CAMAC crates via Mac-CC, a dedicated Macintosh CAMAC crate controller. Small physics experiments have been successfully completed in which the only computer used was a MacVEE system with CAMAC. At a large experiment, such as UA1 at the proton-antiproton collider, the data acquisition itself is performed by a distributed system of 65 VMEbus CPUs and 134 other VME/VMXbus modules, and a dozen MacVEEs are used in the control room for the programming, control and monitoring of these. One MacVEE is dedicated to perform as the data acquisition console, and it also carries out automatically the functions of the old experimenter's log book (recording all operator commands, selected histograms, diagnostics etc). Other MacVEE systems are used for the control of trigger processors comprising farms of SLAC/CERN emulators of IBM mainframes (six 168 and six 3081) through their VMEbus interfaces. In a MacVEE system, the selected external VMEbus or CAMAC address space simply appears within the address space of the Mac's 68000, so that no special drivers are required to access it. User-vectored interrupts from VME can be handled, as well as CAMAC LAMs. A composite video signal output is provided for use by remote video monitors. Mac-CC is equipped with a standard auxiliary controller bus (like a type A2 crate controller) allowing multiple controllers in a CAMAC crate, and operates in conjunction with standard LAM graders. The MacVEE VMEbus interface module has system controller capability as well as allowing multi-processing in the VMEbus crates. The introduction of the Macintosh has led to some interesting new approaches to providing interactive user interfaces to laboratory experiments. For example, when a data acquisition MacVEE detects any abnormality in the statistics, it highlights the corresponding histogram on its mutli-histogram display (and outputs a speech message). To obtain more detailed information, the operator just has to click on a chosen histogram with the mouse to see an expanded display with additional diagnostic data. It proves much easier for the physicists on shift to master this type of user interface to a complex apparatus than to have to remember the sequences of a conventional command language. A total of 176 MacVEE systems are currently in use. I can provide a limited number of copies of the MacVEE User Manual to other professional researchers. B.G. Taylor EP Division CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) 1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland Bitnet: bgt.wb@gen Arpanet: bgt.wb%gen.bitnet@wiscvm.arpa Usenet: bgt.wb@gen.bitnet.uucp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 86 21:57:10 PST From: <DAVEG@slacvm.bitnet> Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Posting of Moose Frazer, Launch Fkey, and LaserWriter Reset Subject: DA Here are three programs which came into my hands to be posted. The Frazer allows the user to add new phrases to the talking moose file. Be sure and backup your original Moose Phrases file before you start. The Launch Fkey allows you to transfer to another application. It does it in a relatively dirty way, so close your files before you transfer. The LaserWriter DA allows you to reset the laserwriter without powering it off. I'm just posting these and can't take any credit for writing them. David [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>UTILITY-FRAZER.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>FKEY-LAUNCH.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DA-LWRESET.HQX DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 09:04:59 PST From: <LOGANJ@byuvax.bitnet> Reply-to: LOGANJ%BYUVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Xerox 9700/8700 font editor Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 08:17 MST From: <LOGANJ@BYUVAX.BITNET> Subject: Xerox 9700/8700 font editor To: INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM X-Original-To: INFO-MAC-REQUEST@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD We have a font editor for Xerox 9700 and 8700 laser printers. It runs on the Macintosh and presently works on small fonts only. You can use the editor to create, modify, copy, and delete letters in a font. Creating and modifying letters is done like 'fatbits' in MacPaint or like a very simplified INTRAN system. We might be willing to share this application while it's under development if there's enough interest. Interested? Then, respond to Jim Logan at loganj@byuvax.bitnet (I won't be able to respond to questions until early December). If there's enought interest I'll post a BinHex'd version of the program to net.sources.mac or mod.mac.binaries and send a copy to INFO-MAC - in December or January. Regards, jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 16:04:24 PST From: gunther.pa@Xerox.COM Subject: DynaBook Lives! I just received a collection of Mac-related bingo cards. Included was a card advertising the "Dynamac" which is a *fully portable* Mac+ compatible. Apparently this machine was briefly reviewed in MacWorld but I had not seen that article. I recently asked Info-Mac about a similar machine being developed by Colby but the response was underwhelming, so I'm assuming this machine may be interesting news (more on Colby in a minute). I rang Dynamac Computer Products Inc. in Colorado. Here is how the machine is configured: Grid style package - dark brief-case type Fully Mac+ compatible 800K disk with 20 or 40 MB internal hard disk 300/1200 baud internal modem U.S., European voltage compatible power supply (no ext. transformer required?) 640 x 400 "gold" electroluminscent display (that's where the cost is) "E-machine" to provide output to a 1024 x 808 external display Mouse (Mac type?) I think it is not battery powered, but I'm not certain Available in Jan. '87 starting at $4995. Keep in mind that the initial target is the business market. Dynamac Computer Products Inc. has an established agreement with Apple Computer Inc. to develop and market this product. It is not clear to me that Colby is yet in this position. It seems this is closest approximation yet, to Alan Kay's original "DynaBook" vision. Neil Gunther.pa@Xerox.com Usual disclaimer inserted here. I'm employed by Xerox PARC and you already no that story....(sigh!). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 08:54:52 PST From: woody%junk-in-lnames@Iago.Caltech.Edu (William E. Woody) Subject: Re: Apple's responce about Bugs in Apple Software Having worked in a large company (National Cash Register) for a short time (summer intern), and having seen their "Software Trouble Report" and procedures, I can tell you that Apple's treatment of bugs in their software is excellent. After all, that Apple is able to (1) manage a large number of suspected bug reports, not all of them real bugs, (2) distribute updates of their software to the [100k, 1M, how many Macs are out there?] users using Macintoshes, and (3) develop new software for their computers, all in the relm of a unique and somewhat overwelming user interface, is an extremly impressive accomplishment. Let me put it this way: Suppose YOU ran Apple. Would YOU have as good a track record doing: (1) Organizing suspected bug reports in order of priority, priority dictated by (a) the market place [what's the point fixing a bug when there is a workaround, when there's another which is blowing away user documents?], (b) the audience of the bug [it's better to have Users happy than programmers, as there is a h*ll of a lot more of them than us!], (c) the level of difficulty of the bug, and (d) the programmers who will eventually have to fix the bug. (2) Get the bug report to the proper programmers, with a proper level of priority. Note that the programmers must also have time to work on future software (usually only 20% of their time should be spent fixing bugs, else they may simply give up, and move on to another company--after all, would you like to spend the rest of YOUR life fixing bugs you made five years ago? Eventually, you'd simply say "to H*ll with the rest of the world; I quit!") (3) Have the programmers properly test the bug, along with the right support personal, in order to find the bug so they can fix it. This is a problem in itself; after all, many people may write in, saying "MacWrite just ate my document when I tried to quit." No other details. (AND DON'T FLAME ME BY SAYING THAT USERS TELL APPLE MORE THAN THIS! MANY DO NOT!!!!! I know; I spent some time fixing bugs from bug reports sent in by System Operators, and Programmers, and some of the bug reports were even more Vague than the above!!!) All right. "MacWrite just ate my document when I tried to quit." Where in 30,000 lines of pascal is that bug? Note that there is a side problem in all this; many of Apple's software was developed by outside venders (read MacWrite). When the software bug report generated by Apple for something like MacWrite gets sent to another company, the same process (steps 1 through 3 above, and all of the below steps) are EXACTLY duplicated by the company. After all, the company who developed the software may already be fixing the bug Real Soon Now, and they have to discover which bugs comming into their queue are duplicated down the road. (4) Now, the programmer must fix the bug. Usually, the level of priority of a bug sets a deadline as to how much time a programmer has to fix the bug. For example, at NCR, a Level 1 priority bug ment that the programmer had three days (yes, 3) to fix it. Of course, those three days included three nights as well. God help the poor soul who has to fix 20 level 1 bugs;\ he won't have any sleep in over 2 months. And I bet you he'll collapse long before then. (5) While the bug is being fixed, the management must deside exactly how the fix is to be distributed. Usually in a company like DEC or NCR, where the audience may be as small as 50 users, the fix may be distributed in a patch tape or a new release, sent free of charge. They can do it, as there are only 50 tapes to be made, and the users spent well over $30k for the product. The $10.00 tape won't make much of a difference. But Apple has an audience of a h*ll of a lot more than 50 users!!! Distributing a floppy to everyone who bought the software (including those who didn't register, or who has moved in the meantime) is an extremely expensive proposition, especially when they didn't spend $30K per program. So Apple almost always must rely upon distribution to their dealers, (imagine the management and manpower problem just to distribute software to every Apple authorized dealer, from the ones in Los Angeles, to the one up by Bass Lake in the foothills of the Sierras above Fresno--could YOU find it?), and Apple can rely upon having a new release. Apple may be in the fortune 500. Apple may be a lot larger than some other small companies (employing 5 people, who have only one product). But because Apple is a lot larger than Megamax doesn't mean that Apple sould be able to go a lot faster than Megamax; in fact, the size of Apple creates management problems which make managers not sleep, management consultants rich, and paperwork problems which boggle the imagination. And that management and paperwork is necessary to keep Apple's relatively high level of quality as some of the people at Apple must be held by the hand to work properly with the rest of the community. Apple does NOT have "infinite" resources. Shucks, IBM doesn't have infinite resources, and IBM is the largest company in the world (by ranking of Business Week). So don't complain that Apple is doing a poor job. Granted, Apple could probably do a better job. But how? (And I can assure you that for each money saving, quality improving, speed increasing suggestion that exists, Apple probably really WANTS to know. It makes their lives easier, as well as making your lives easier.) And realize that their personal cannot work 24 hours a day; they'd quit first. And the fact that people at Apple actually read the network news is absolutely remarkable; that average run-of-the-mill Apple programmers answer network mail is incredible. Note that though DEC and NCR and IBM also do this, the personal who answer are PAID to answer network mail. I've yet to hear of an Apple person who is PAID to give out information (or, usually, disinformation--YES, I KNOW firsthand that some of the information IS disinformation) to the rest of us. I'm so sorry that this message is so long, but I had to get it off my chest. Flames to: - William Woody mac > /|\ && ][n woody@juliet.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 86 20:30:49 EST From: Peter.Su@gnome.cs.cmu.edu Subject: The new system >>>From: ST401385%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU > The advantage of the new finder is that it now knows about folders. >For an ordinary mac without a hard disk, this is a dubious improvement, >especially as the people who wrote the new finder chose to show you >everything that's in a folder when you open something from within >an application, even the things that you can't open. This may have > Er um, last time I checked, the Finder had no control over what files you could open from insdie, say Macwrite. It seems to me the only extra files that show up are folders, which makes sense, since how could you get into them if you couldn't open them?? Folders DO make a lot of sense even if you are only working with floppies. This is because the floppies hold nearly 1Meg worth of data...which is a LOT of files. If HFS wasn't there, the Finder would spit up and die trying to figure out what was on the disk all the time. >the system (I'm using--or trying to use--the program Ramstart 2.22, >which seems to be the latest version available. The program bombs >when you try to put the system on the ramdisk and then run it.) This Ramstart 2.2 doesn't work with HFS. You need Ramstart 2.23 I think. > The new system is pretty stupid, too. It continuously wants >disk swaps, even when you can't figure what in the world it wants >them for. It is far too stupid to use free memory or even cache Sounds like a Mac to me... ;-) Seriously though, I think the new system stuff shows people what the Mac can really do. It is slick, it is fast, and just all around pretty neat. Pete ---- ARPA: hugo@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa BELL:412-681-7431 UUCP: ...!{ucbvax,ihnp4,cmucspt}!hugo@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa USPS: 5170 Beeler St., Pittsburgh PA 15213 QUOT: "What's that I smell? I smell home cooking. It's only the river!" _ Talking Heads ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 20:15 MDT From: <SLRS9%USU.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> (Harold Stuart) Subject: Re: Apple // emulation on Lisa The Apple // emulation mode on the Lisa (Mac XL) does not work. The mode appears to directly poll hardware addresses, and the XL gets the system bomb as soon as the program is run. The mode does appear to work correctly on a "real" Macintosh. It's an interesting idea, but it's time has not come on a Lisa. Harold Stuart SLRS9@USU.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 86 01:47 N From: <INFOEARN%HLERUL5.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> (Thomas Fruin) Subject: RE: Wanted: the MacBinary specification Thanks to Ric Ford over on Delphi for answering my MacBinary query (you mean CompuServe does and ICONtact _doesn't_ have the specification!? :-). I'm posting this message though, because I live in Holland and there is _no_way_ for me to reach C'serve (well, at least without losing that arm and leg). If there is anybody out there who has this specification, could s/he mail it to me? Or if somebody has Dennis Brothers' address, I'll mail him myself. While I'm at it, I'm also looking for the Binhex specification, since that's something which I think should be done during up- and downloading too and I'd like to include it in my program as well. Where can I get that? Let's try to get this very useful information around. -- Thomas FRUIN@HLERUL5.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Thu 20 Nov 86 23:11:37-PST From: Lance Nakata <K.Kirin@HAMLET.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: RE: document can't be opened If MacWrite 4.5 gives a "This document can't be opened" message, there might be paragraph damage to the file. Perhaps it tried to save a portion of the file on a bad disk sector. In any case, you can try using the Utility-WriteRecovery.Hqx program (known as Rescue) that is in the Sumex archives. There is no guarantee that Rescue will work, especially if the damage is severe. But it is definitely worth a try. But first, use Copy II Mac to sector copy the damaged disk!! Always work on the copy. If Rescue doesn't work, you will have to find a local Fedit expert. Fedit Plus 1.0.7 can piece together files that even MacTools 6.2 (that's right, version 6.2) can't recover. Too bad you don't live a little closer to Stanford. I would have been glad to help out. Good luck. Lance Nakata K.Kirin@Hamlet.Stanford.Edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 86 09:34 PST From: PUGH%CCX.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA Subject: Re: Adding Fonts to the fonts menu In the Sumex archive is an FKEY called Fontsie 1.5 that adds fonts to the menu named FONT. It works for the duration of the session and has a few minor display problems (the font doesn't get checked and the sizes aren't outlined), but it works very well. I use it (well, not much now that I have a hard disk). Check it out. Jon ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 86 11:03:58 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #95 Usenet Mac Digest Thursday, 20 November 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 95 Today's Topics: Re: Mac pictures inside a troff doc?? Re: Help - Kermit eats HD20 space Re: Algorithmic and implementation references about Quickdraw Re: Video problems with upgraded 512K Mac Re: Help: Bomb Recovery Applications needed. MAC with HP Laserjet ??? Word -> MacWrite? Word Lists On vague or cryptic error messages Re: Snobol for the Mac? Re: Snobol for the Mac? Summary of answers to my laserwriter questions Need cheap Mac printer Re: Small bug in MacMETH toolbox-interface Re: Help - Kermit eats HD20 space InfoWorld this week covers LANs and LaserPrinters Re: ZoomWindow...Help Needed Mac+ Keyboard Bug? milliseconds & NCR 5380 split baud rates? [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>USENETV2-95.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 86 14:35:54 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #60 Delphi Mac Digest Thursday, 20 November 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: RE: Hard disk drives (Re: Msg 14839) (4 messages) Hyper Drawers warning RE: Booting SCSI & HD20 Hard disk RE: human touch "One Touch" board (alter (Re: Msg 14845) (2 messages) RE: Apple fellows & "Application already open" message? RE: Expanding your system heap (3 messages) power supply parts New Apple Sales Promotion? (3 messages) Programmers at Work (2 messages) DataFrame 40 XP is _Fast_ RE: Wanted: the MacBinary specification RE: Computerworld Focus 11/12 RE: IBM-PC <-> VAX <-> MAC network? RE: APL for the Mac (2 messages) RE: ZoomWindows...Help Wanted RE: Mac fan comparison Re: mac video - drawing into ScreenBits PCPC's HFS Backup (3 messages) RE: Font questions RE: HD vs. Floppy: $/Kb (3 messages) SCSI pinouts HFS Blues Revisited RE: mac video - drawing into ScreenBits fast? [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DELPHIV2-60.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************