INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (Moderator David Gelphman...) (01/12/87)
INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 11 Jan 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 36
Today's Topics:
MacWorld Expo
Re: MacWorld Expo
TE Hooks
General Programming Question(s)
C-MACPROTOS.H
talking-keys.hqx
Asynch Appletalk DA
DirACTAry
FKEY-MANAGER.HQX
New Levco product and lower prices
ETH modula-2 and postscript bitmap reduction
Re: TTY Printer Driver
Daisywheels --> Mac
Pictures in Word
Downloading program
Need references on scientific software/CAD for Mac
Looking for recommendations for Hard drives/tapes backup
Mac User Interface
Copy II Mac v. >= 5.2
Backdrop INIT file
Usenet Mac Digest V3 #2
Delphi Mac Digest V3 #2
Delphi Mac Digest V3 #3
Usenet Mac Digest V3 #3
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 87 20:39:09 PST
From: chuq@Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: MacWorld Expo
I spent a number of hours at MacWorld Expo today, and since nobody else has
dropped off any notes on it yet, I thought I'd make some comments on it.
Note: this is not intended to be an exhaustive comment -- I wasn't trying
to look at everything, and I didn't bring home a lot of material that wasn't
directly related to what I was looking for (primarily DTP, books, fonts, and
new toys to play with). Others can either add to this report or post their
own exhaustive summaries.
This year's MacExpo was HUGE. They are expecting 30,000 people over three
days. It was jammed on Friday.
This year the Expo was at Moscone center. It has simply outgrown Brooks
Hall, where it has lived in previous years. Moscone is a beautiful
convention center, an oasis of glitter in a less than wonderful
neighborhood. Walk two blocks in the wrong direction, and the neighborhood
gets very grungy. The wonders of redevelopment. I miss Brooks hall, the
haven of the early days (West Coast Computer Faire lives there, too, from
back in the days when 16K was a lot of RAM. sigh.) This just goes to show
how BIG the Mac world is these days.
Also how professional. Anyone who says the Mac is a business failure has
not looked around recently. Gone are the user groups (with a few
exceptions, like BCS and BMUG). Gone are the booths around the edge with a
couple of hackers with glazed eyes and a semi-finished product. Gone are
the ponytails and T-shirts, coats and ties and nylons are uniforms now.
Apple announced no new products. Disappointing, not surprised. From what I
can tell, there were four big winners:
o Adobe Illustrator. The next generation graphic program. As far ahead
of MacPaint as the Mac is ahead of the PC. The first graphic program
with no bitmap, it is all line and shading, and takes the full
capabilities of PostScript to the limit.
o Dbase Mac. Announced previously, but it was here and it is. Another
sign that the Mac is serious business. Doens't really change the state
of the art, but legitimizes it. To be shipped Real Soon Now.
o WordPerfect. To be shipped 2Q87. The ultimate word processor for the
PC comes to the Mac. They were there, they were talking about it, but
they weren't really showing it. Again, compared to some Mac word
processors, it doesn't extend the state of the art, but it is one less
excuse for people to NOT buy a Mac. Whether it will hold its own
against the Mac programs and against Word3.0, I don't know.
o Word 3.0. Demoed at the show, shipping the end of January. I don't
know about you, but after reading the literature and watching the demo,
this thing might just do my laundry. We'll see, but I'm impressed.
Word 1.05 is functional, Word 3.0 is glitzy. Like a Ford and a BMW.
Controversy of the show: LetraSet and Boston Publishing Systems. If you're
reading any of the Mac magazines, you've seen the heavy advertising for
Letrapage. LetraSet bought the new release of MacPublisher II from Boston
Publishing, raise the price extraordinarily high, and advertised the hell
out of it. A short time before MacExpo, they handed the software BACK to
BPS, leaving them in the lurch, and are now pushing Ready Set Go! 3.0 as the
LetraSet DTP solution.
BPS will be marketing their stuff as MacPublisher III. LetraSet has NOT to
date returned BPS's customer lists, though, so if you own MacPublisher, you
need to contact the vendors so they know you exist. Letraset gets my slimy
award. Note: RSG3 is still being marketed by Manhattan Graphics -- it is
not a buyout, LetraSet just re-sells it. My suggestion: buy RSG3 from
Manhattan, tell Letraset to take a hike. RSG3 is available now, stable, and
significantly higher functionality than MacPublisher III will be.
Prediction: 1987 will be the year of the laserfont. The laserwriter is
remaking how we look at text, and companies are just starting to deal with
how to remake the laserwriter. Look for really wonderful font and clip art
offerings just for the laserwriter.
Prediction: It will also be the year of Postscript, as new tools
continue to make it available to the user (Word 3.0 and RSG3 both have
Postscript capability currently).
Prediction: Word 3.0 will redefine the state of the art of the Mac user
interface. User definable menus (a short, Write like menu, a full menu, and
you can pick&choose what items you want on it) is just one feature that I
think makes the existing interface obsolete. Give the user all the power he
can handle, and let him re-arrange it to fit his needs. Word 3.0 is going
to lead the way. Watch it.
There were a lot of business things. Ultimate spreadhseets. Tax preparers.
Accounting packages. Large, fast, mean looking SCSI disks. 1986 was the
year the Mac got serious and took over DTP. 1987 is the year it goes legit
and takes over the rest of the office.
chuq
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Date: 10 Jan 87 16:53:23 PST
From: starkweather.pa@Xerox.COM
Subject: Re: MacWorld Expo
Before the MAC takes OVER the office from the PC it has to get INTO the
office. As a user of both machines, MAC is glitzy the PC useful. True,
with some spreadsheet and word processor mixes now coming to the MAC
world it can begin some inroads to the PC but it will not easily
displace the 6 million odd PC's that have satisfied (not ecstatic)
users. It has to get rid of the puny screen and monochrome tube. If an
illustrator for the PC comes along (as is rumored) the MAC will have to
do all the running it can just to stay in one place. Ventura Publisher
by Xerox for the PC supercedes Aldus and also drives the LaserWriter. It
should be interesting to see what happens in 1987.
Cheers, Gary Starkweather - Xerox PARC
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Subject: TE Hooks
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 87 09:47:47 -0800
From: duggie@portia.STANFORD.EDU
I have been fooling around with the Text Edit hooks that TECalText uses,
TERecal and TEDoText. The registers don't seem to behave quite as described
in IMVol1 pg 391, and I can't figure out exactly what they are supposed to
do. I replaced TEDoText with the address of my own routine, which then
stored the values of the registers in a handle and called the original routine,
and it seemed that as long as I intercepted the routine at all something got
screwed up. The only difference when the original is called is that the stack
is a bit deeper -- it has an extra return address on it. Nothing crashes,
text just thinks it is 128 points. Since I can't see the text, it makes it
difficult to determine just what the registers control.
I thought these hooks were explained somewhere, but the Supplements don't seem
to refer to them (at least in the index). Can someone tell me how to use
these? I want to use TE but change the length of lines on a per-line basis
so text can flow around graphics.
Thanks.
-- Doug Felt
duggie@portia.stanford.edu
"insert witty and pithy saying here"
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Date: 10 Oct 1987 15:55-EDT
Sender: ZAKAR@A.ISI.EDU
Subject: General Programming Question(s)
From: ZAKAR@A.ISI.EDU
First the background.
I want my application to create a document window that I can use to display
a picture from a PICT resource. Then, I want to create an m x n lined grid
that I can drag around the window. I intend to have handles on the grid to
allow me to 1) increase m only, 2) increase n only, and 3) increase or
decrease the grid spacing.
I originally thought of drawing the grid in a second window that had a
transparent background so I could see the picture in the first window.
However, that means I have to define my own custom window. I'll do it if
need be, but the thought doesn't thrill me. Regions seem like a possibility
but you can only paint them with a pattern and I can't guarantee that the
grid spacing won't become too large to define an appropriate pattern.
The question:
What's the best way to go about coding up those grid manipulation functions.
I'm reminded of the way the rows of cards in the game Klondike were
manipulated and wish I knew how it was coded.
Bonus question:
I seem to recall a discussion in info-mac some time ago about problems
with the cursor freezing on the screen. Well, I find
myself with that problem now. If anyone remembers that discussion,
could they please summarize it or point me to the archive file that
contains it?
My thanks -- Joe Zakar Zakar at A.ISI.EDU
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 11:24:02 est
From: stew%lhasa@hucsc.HARVARD.EDU
Subject: C-MACPROTOS.H
/* MacProtos.h */
/*
These ANSI C prototypes for the Macintosh toolbox functions are based
on Tech note 45, with additions for the 128K ROMs from Inside Mac V4.
They have been checked fairly carefully, uncovering a few misspellings
and other bugs in that tech note.
Note: I have made a few small changes and additions to MacTypes.
In particular, I think that ProcPtr should be a pointer to a
procedure, i.e., a function returning void. I also defined the
type FilterProc to be a function returning a Boolean.
Changes from the definitions in Inside Mac: The functions NewWindow
and GetNewWindow take a pointer to a window record, or NIL to allocate
in the heap. Inside Mac declares these as Ptr. I made them WindowPeeks.
Likewise NewDialog and GetNewDialog ought to take DialogPeeks. Finally,
UnloadSeg is documented as taking a Ptr. I made it a ProcPtr.
I think that's it. Please send any corrections to me:
Stew Rubenstein
stew@lhasa.harvard.edu
seismo!harvardlhasa!stew
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 08:31:42 est
From: jonathan@mitre-gateway.arpa (Jonathan Leblang)
Subject: talking-keys.hqx
Here is a desk accessory from GEnie that speaks letters and words as you type.
It is in packit III format, and includes documentation.
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 87 14:03 EST
From: Evan Bauman
Subject: Asynch Appletalk DA
Here is a DA that I got from GEnie that converts data bound for
the Appletalk connection to an asynchronous type. The BinHexed
PACKIT II file contains the DA and 3 short documents that describe
some technical espects, the eventual commercial product and
instructions for using the DA with the Appletalk Intermail Demo.
___|\__________|_
| | \ | \ gkn3m2@irishmvs (bitnet)
| | \ | | gkn3m2%irishmvs.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu (arpa)
| | \ | | MacCHEG BBS (219)-283-4714; 6PM-8AM only
_|_|________\__|_/
| \|
Evan Bauman
Dep't of chemical engineering
University of Notre Dame
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 87 11:52:40 est
From: jonathan@mitre-gateway.arpa (Jonathan Leblang)
Subject: DirACTAry
[uploaded from ngp by J. Leblang]
Here is a file which makes a directory of your floppy or hard disk in
Acta format.
[ note from moderator: I've used this and it is incredibly useful. You find
files in folders which you didn't even remember existed. DAVEG ]
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 08:29:53 est
From: jonathan@mitre-gateway.arpa (Jonathan Leblang)
Subject: FKEY-MANAGER.HQX
Here is a utility uploaded from compuserve that allows you to install and
remove FKEYs. The files called keypad and pop-keys should be in the system
folder. They are INITs. Pop-keys allows you to have a pull down menu with
FKEYs, and keypad lets you use the Mac+ keypad to access FKEYs with one
keystroke. In the same file I also packed some shareware FKEYs.
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Date: 8 Jan 87 21:08:00 EST
From: <bouldin@ceee-sed.ARPA>
Subject: New Levco product and lower prices
Reply-to: <bouldin@ceee-sed.ARPA>
This is a message posted by levco about there new product, the Pridigy Prime
and about lowere prices on the Prodigy 4. I guess we have to wait until after
Macworld for specific details.
Fm: Duane Maxwell 74075,1666
To: Matthew Carr 74176,3413 (X)
Since its already in the press, I will tell you right here. Why buy
a cheap 68020 upgrade when you will be able to buy a Prodigy for MUCH
less than before. Our prices have dropped on our 4 meg Prodigy as of
7 Jan 87. We are also announcing a newer Prodigy called the Prodigy
Prime at the MacWorld show, which will be able to go from 1 to 4 megs,
and it also has some other dandy features that I can talk about at the
show. (I'm probably not supposed to say this much.) Ours may still
cost a bit more when we are done, but you also need to look to the
future and see who will be there to support your products and keep you
on the leading edge. A small example.. remember all of the cheap 1 meg
upgrades before the Mac Plus came out? How many allowed you to use the
new Mac ROMS? How many of those companies are still around? Keep in
mind that when you are buying a Prodigy, you are not just buying a box
full of expensive chips, you are also buying compatability and also
service for a long time. We will be here for a long time...
Doug Gilbert - Levco
Along the same lines--the latest Electronics magazine claims that there will
be yet another logic board upgrade for the Mac+, to a 16Mhz 68020 with
socket for an 881, 1 meg of 32 bit memory, probably running with 2 wait states
(too bad!) but that the upgrade is $1000.
I believe the Prodigy Prime is likely just a P4 with 256K rams instead of 1
megabit rams. Ryad already sells the equivalent of a Prodigy prime for $1950,
so that is the price that Levco must be at (or near) for the Prime to sell.
If the Apple upgrade is true, all this 3rd party stuff may now be academic,
anyhow.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 12:57 EDT
From: <JCLARK%UTKVX3.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU>
Subject: ETH modula-2 and postscript bitmap reduction
Does anyone know if there is any an update to the Macintoshy ETH Modula-2
compiler to make it compatible with system 3.2? Alternately, if no such
version exists, is there a more recent one than that of summer 1985--in
particular, one with a faster linking time?
I'm also looking for a commented copy of the LaserPrep (version 3.1)
Evidently there is an alteration on how bitmaps are handled between the
earlier commented version (LaserText and LaserText-Reid) and the
current version.
Why? I'm interested in placing bitmaps generated by using ps dumps of
SuperPaint files in reduced form at precise locations on a page. Evidently of
all the paint programs (MacPaint, FullPaint, SuperPaint), SuperPaint is the
only one that uses the usual LaserWriter driver--insofar as being able
to generate ps dumps is concerned.
Also, I'm not sure where any reduction occurs. For example, if you print a
SuperPaint bitmap at 25% reduction, is the reduction done via postscript or
before the postscript is generated. In general, when using any scale
factor other than 100%, is the reduction done in the printer or before
the ps is sent?
Any pointers or comments will be appreciated.
Jim Clark
UT Martin
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 10:07:43 est
From: rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel)
Subject: Re: TTY Printer Driver
I don't know of such a driver, but if you print using the "Draft" switch on
the ImageWriter, (in the dialog box), the printer simply sends ASCII
characters to the ImageWriter, so I see no reason you couldn't use any RS232
printer instead of the ImageWriter.
--Rich
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 10:09:30 est
From: rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel)
Subject: Daisywheels --> Mac
The only wordprocessor I know that supports daisywheels is MicroSoft Word.
It'll also print to some other printers (Brother, i think) besides
daisywheels...
There may be others, but Word's the only one I've heard of.
--Rich
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 87 00:02:38 PST
From: <DAVEG@slacvm.bitnet>
Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Pictures in Word
I'm posting this for someone else...see their address in order to respond.
David
Received: by husc4.HARVARD.EDU; Thu, 8 Jan 87 01:01:48 est
From: cohen_3%husc4.harvard.edu@harvunxt.BITNET
Recently I wanted to put Excel charts into Word documents. Getting the charts
into the scrapbook was easy as was pasting them into the document. Then I got
into trouble--I tried to print without having saved the document and the whole
thing froze and I got a window with a ">" type prompt--evidently a system error
of some sort (incidently, if anyone knows why there was a prompt that seemed
to accept keyboard input in the window and not the usual system error window
that we all know and love (!?) I'd be interested--this was with system v.3.1).
On a separate occasion, after someone in the office replaced the system folder,
which had system v.3.1, with a system folder containing system 3.2, a similar
thing happened--an unsaved Word document with charts moved in from Excel was to
be printed and then the system crashed--this time with the usual system error
dialog-box. The user was using Word and Excel with Switcher 4.4. I believe I
was not using the Switcher at all when I crashed the system. Someone suggested
that Word (incidently, we have Word 1.05) can not handle pictures. Is this
the case? If not, any ideas about what is causing this and how we can get rid
of it? Please post ideas on the newsgroup or send them to me at this address:
cohen_3@harvsc4.bitnet or cohen_3@husc4.harvard.edu . Thanks in advance.
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Name: David Cohen
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of the******
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 11:02:59 est
From: stew%lhasa@hucsc.HARVARD.EDU
Subject: Downloading program
Does anyone have a decent downloading program for the LaserWriter?
I've been using the one that came with Inside LaserWriter eons ago,
but it has no error handling and only sends to the laserwriter named
LaserWriter. Would be easy to write, but...
Thanx
Stew
[ note from moderator: The program UTILITY-SENDPS.HQX will download to
the LaserWriter and does give some diagnostics. I'm not sure whether it
is hardwired to use 'LaserWriter' but if it is, you *should* be able to
edit a string or something (like all good Mac software). DAVEG ]
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 87 10:38:22 cet
From: FALK%NORUNIT.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: Need references on scientific software/CAD for Mac
Please,could somebody give me some references on scientific software/Cad for Ma
cintosh. I'm looking for data analysis, and simple structural analysis of steel
structures.Unfolding of steel plates is another interesting subject.
I also have a problem with the MAC on alphabetic sorting. I suppose these routi
nes are managed by the SYSTEM, and any sorting from different applications are
by now as: A-The norwegian AE(Hex:AE)-B...Z, but the Norwegian alphabet are
A-B-C...Z-Hex(AE)-Hex(AF)-Hex(81).
I'd be very happy if somebody could tell me how to fix this problem.
My adress: FALK@NORUNIT.EARN
Or by mail: SINTEF, Division of fluid dynamics, 7034 Trondheim, NORWAY
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 87 11:27:34 EST
From: John F. Mansfield <jfm@mcnc.org>
Subject: Looking for recommendations for Hard drives/tapes backup
I wonder if anyone out in MacLand can help me. I'm about to buy
a Mac+ and probably a SCSI hard drive. Trouble is there are so many on
the market these days that it isn't entirely obvious which to get. It
would be nice to get a drive + tape system in one package, ala the
BigMackTwinPack (horrible product name!), as I am very paranoid about
crashes and data loss. Obviously cost is a major consideration as well
as reliability, yes I know that most of the drives are so new that we
cant tell how reliable they are but I'd like peoples opinions.
I kind of like the look and "sound" of the ProAPP drives,
particularly the new one that sits beside the mac. I dont want an
internal drive as I've heard to many horror stories about their
failings. Also, how safe is it to order one mail-order and have the
shippers play football with it en route.
Any comments on this would be welcome, except those suggesting
that I wait to get a Paris/Aladdin. My e-mail address is:
Csnet: jfm@mcnc.org
UUCP: !decvax!mcnc!jfm (I think).
USmail: John F Mansfield
MCNC
3021 Cornwallis Road
RTP
NC 27709
Phone 919-467-7996.
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Date: 7 Jan 87 14:11
From: Julian Lebensold
From: <lebensold%capone.crim.cdn%ubc.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Mac User Interface
As part of an ongoing research project in user interface design
at the Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal we would very
much appreciate your response to the following question:
If you could change any aspect(s) of the Macintosh user interface,
what would you like to see changed?
In other words, what bugs you about the Mac user interface?
Examples include ideas related to the desktop metaphor; the use of
windows, their sizes, placement, default views; menus; and so on. We
are less interested in hardware related aspects such as color, keyboard
layout, etc.
I would appreciate responses addressed directly to me, or to the network.
Thank you.
Julian Lebensold
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Date: 7 Jan 87 08:08 EST
From: HALLETT JEFFREY A <HALLETT@ge-crd.arpa>
Subject: Copy II Mac v. >= 5.2
I was wondering, what programs WILL Copy II Mac versions 5.3 and up copy?
If it is no larger than the list for 5.2, then is there a reason to keep
upgrading? (eq. I cannot backup my Excel with v5.2; how about a later
version?)
JAH
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Date: 7 Jan 87 15:17 EST
From: HALLETT JEFFREY A <HALLETT@ge-crd.arpa>
Subject: Backdrop INIT file
Say has anyone found a way to make the BACKDROP init work with MFS disks?
[ note from moderator:
This is the init which installs a MacPaint file as a background for the
desktop. It chooses randomly between the different paint pictures you have.
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Also, to whomever posted this, would you have the code that makes this baby
do what it does?
Thanx
JAH
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Date: 7 Jan 87 21:38:59 EST
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #2
Usenet Mac Digest Wednesday, 7 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 2
Today's Topics:
Re: MacIntax?
Re: Editing item numbers in resources
Re: STELLA
Re: MacIntax?
External rountines from Turbo Pascal
Bugs in LSC 2.0
Bug in ResEdit 1.0D12 ?
Re: Reflex
LightspeedC 2.01 project conversion quirk?
LightspeedC 2.01 and TransSkel
Fortran compilers for Mac+
The never ending penny (or, Tales From the Darkside)
Re: Reflex
Re: repeated Dataframe 20 controller failures
Fileservers for the Mac
DragGrayRgn & Scrolling
MacinTalk
SCSI HELP NEEDED
Surge Suppressors
New Macs in Electronics
Re: repeated Dataframe 20 controller failures
Re: Surge Suppressors
THINK Technologies on the net
Macintalk Answers...
Printer Spooling w/Mac+
Re: Delphi V2 #69
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Date: 10 Jan 87 12:02:12 EST
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #2
Delphi Mac Digest Saturday, 10 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 2
Today's Topics:
RE: Warning to Expo Travellers (3 messages)
Better LaserWriter formatting in PageMak
RE: Better LaserWriter formatting in Pag
Initialize? (2 messages)
miniWRITER + SuperSpool problem?
MS Basic Compiler
RE: Questions about Mac postscript, Technote 14,Postscript errors
MacUser Magazine bought by Ziff-Davis
Letraset Marketing Ready-Set-Go
New Products Introduced at Macworld Expo
Stepping Out (Macintosh Screen Extender)
RE: Stepping Out (Macintosh Screen Exten
SmethersBarnes Prototyper
Page Once, Automated Book Typesetting
Dayna FT-100 enhancement
perfecTEK MAC+PC
the Macintosh Bible
Macintosh 100 Awards
1st day expo impressions
MW Expo Report
more CP
New Macintosh; Macworld Expo; Alladin; (2 messages)
Design Tools
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Date: 10 Jan 87 12:02:57 EST
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #3
Delphi Mac Digest Saturday, 10 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 3
Today's Topics:
Loading a HD (2 messages)
MPW 1.0.1
imagewriter II problems
The Macintosh in 1987
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Date: 10 Jan 87 15:47:20 EST
From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #3
Usenet Mac Digest Saturday, 10 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 3
Today's Topics:
Dark Castle hints needed
VAX <--> Mac
Re: Smalltalk problems (version 0.3)
Who has the TeX reviews ??
Good External Disk Drives ??
Re: Macintalk Answers...
Re: Questions on Dataframe XP
Re: Printer Spooling w/Mac+
MaxChill
Looking for 68000 optimizer
Mac H/W Crashes -- Cause
Airlines -new regulations say you must x-ray?
Re: The never ending penny (or, Tales From the Darkside)
Are the upgrade P/S problems fixed yet?
PD Prolog Available???
mini review of Cricket Draw
Apologies: NONbugs in LSC V.2
Wanted: curses on the mac
Re: VAX <--> Mac
Re: Printer Spooling w/Mac+
Request C program to drive Macintalk
NEON
Re: Airlines -new regulations say you must x-ray?
Re: PD Prolog Available???
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