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INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 18 Jan 1987 Volume 5 : Issue 40 Today's Topics: Can a screen inch be a laserwriter inch? Shutdown hook Re: APDA & book RE: What bugs you about the Mac user interface Programming Language Update from Macworld Expo MacApp update from Macworld Expo Dungeon of Doom Version 4.0 Macput updated for multiple file transfers with VersaTerm TeXtures Icon Hacker A few responses and a tip Re: Laserwriter prints Re: MacWorld Expo 68020 vs 80386 Looking for help in Engineering applications cable for mac+ to ventel 2400 baud modem? Mac+ DIN8 to Mac DB9 connector Need Unix tty --> AppleTalk hack Delphi Mac Digest V3 #4 Delphi Mac Digest V3 #5 Usenet Mac Digest V3 #4 Usenet Mac Digest V3 #5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 09:34:14 PST From: tuttle@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Mark S. Tuttle) Subject: Can a screen inch be a laserwriter inch? Silly me. I thought Mac+ + Laserwriter+ would be different than all the other "photo-typesetters" I've used, i.e. where beautification takes longer than writing. To whit: I am preparing camera ready copy with MacWrite (I know, I know), the kind where the page must be exactly 7" wide, etc. Using the MacWrite rulers I got all this laid out perfectly on the first try, at least on my imagewrite I. I used, as I was instructed by my friend with the laserwriter+, the "Times" font, which looks too small (clue?) on the screen, but great coming out of the laserwriter. Of course, when I ran my paper off on the laserwriter everything was too big -- a 3 5/16" column was more like ~4", etc. Using the reduction feature of the laserprinter driver we tried 90% and it is close to the right thing, though I'm not sure the vertical spacing did the right thing. Thus, is there any way I can compose (using MacWrite, I'm waiting for my Word 3.0 upgrade) using my mac+ and imagewriter I, and have an inch be an inch on the laserwriter. If it wants to rejustify the text, that's fine. I just want the absolute margin control. Suggestions or "work-arounds" appreciated. The laserwriter did a wonderful job with my Excel Charts and my StatView512+ scattergrams and regression lines, etc. Thanks in advance, -- Mark Tuttle tuttle@ernie.berkeley.edu Computer Science Div - EECS, UCB Medical Information Science, UCSF ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 17:54:12 est From: decvax!wang!ephraim@decwrl.DEC.COM Subject: Shutdown hook In info-mac v3#38, Godfrey DiGiorgi asks for a shutdown hook, and points out that switcher (apparently) uses such a thing. Alas, it's an illusion. It's the author of Finder that changes the ShutDown menu item when Switcher is installed. Switcher doesn't do anything but sit there. I asked Apple about a shutdown hook for device drivers, so that hard disks could park their heads. Their reply was "maybe next year." (That's this year, now, as it was October when I asked.) I'd be happy if the system would just *close* all the device drivers before shutting down, but it doesn't even do that. Ephraim Vishniac decvax!wanginst!wang!ephraim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 19:58:34 PST From: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu (Pierce T. Wetter) Subject: Re: APDA & book I joined apda, got my book and my membership card. BUT NOT IN THAT ORDER. After I had been a member for about a month APDA sent me a card saying they were out of stock for the book. (Not surprising.) Two months ensued and then the book arrived. If you havn't gotten your book yet just be patient, its probably coming Pierce Wetter -- Keep you Eye on the Ball, Your Shoulder to the Wheel, Your Nose to the Grindstone, Your Feet on the Ground, Your Head on your Shoulders. Now ... try to get something DONE! wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 87 13:29 CDT From: "1208::SEABAUGH%ti-eg.csnet"@RELAY.CS.NET Subject: RE: What bugs you about the Mac user interface In response to Julian Lebensold - What bugs you about the Mac user interface? One particularly useful feature would be a menu selection to allow a file to be dumped to the screen, not for word processing, just for viewing. Control-Q and Control-S could be used for stopping and continuing. Don't worry about formating; list the file in ascii with reasonable symbols substituted for control characters. This procedure should be defaulted to whenever an application cannot be found for the item. Bitmaps might be singled out and dumped to the screen. A keystroke or mouse click would return to the desktop. More generally a user-interface should not order you around. Warning messages which won't let you continue until you have clicked in an 'ok' box are humiliating and annoying. Maybe it's not ok! Default procedures could be defined in many cases, which, while they may not do exactly what you want, will give you immediate information (perhaps as much as you need). For those warnings where a default procedure cannot be defined, let any mouse or keystroke event remove the warning. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 87 12:09:27 pst From: gould9!joel@nosc.ARPA (Joel West @ Western Software Technology) Subject: Programming Language Update from Macworld Expo Although this is a week late, I hadn't seen it anywhere, so I'm going to post my annual state-of-the-languages report from San Francisco. (MacApp is covered in a separate article.) Booths TML, Consulair, Think, Borland, ExperTelligence, APDA Others Apple (seminars), ICOM (around), Jasik (mooching off MacTutor) Now the news: MPW 1.0 is out, those who have betas should by now have near-final manuals. Final 1.0 manuals (with index) will be available March 1, and at that time, prices will go up to $150 for MPW, $125 each for Pascal and C, $100 for MacApp. Beta customers will be able to buy the final manuals for a "nominal" charge. MPW is on track but MacApp is several months behind. An alpha of MPW 2.0 was demoed, the main difference was the "markers" menu from the Lisa Workshop. 2.0 will include 68020/68881 compiler options. On other fronts, Borland and Think were demonstrating their products. Lightspeed Pascal will become more MPW Pascal-compatible although 100% compatibility is not a goal, and C/Pascal compatibility is not a high priority. TML says 3.0 is due after the IIgs product is out. I can't find it in my notes, but I think 3.0 is supposed to be MacApp compatible. Bill Duvall at Consulair feels real stomped on by the big foot of MPW. Darin Adler of ICOM says a new product is under development, it sounded like it was due in the 2nd quarter. Steve Jasik was showing his debugger, being his customary polite self; I didn't see a user manual, so, after MacNosy 1.0 and 2.0, it's of no interest to me. ExperTelligence said their ExperCommon Lisp is $700 (show special?) and is a compiled Common Lisp that produces fast stand-alone applications. Most fascinating was 'Interface Builder' ($300), a front-end to their Lisp, in which you draw your dialogs and controls with their program, add a few routine names for each control and a page of code, and you interactively have what built would take say 4-5 pages of MacApp source. (If I had time to learn Lisp this year, it would be #1 on my list of development tools). A Lightspeed C version is reportedly planned. APDA may focus on becoming a professional association. They have a mix of big guys and little guys, the little want cheap products, the big guys want fast delivery. Perhaps 40% of members have no company or a 1-2 person company. 40% also have MS-DOS machines, 60% with Macs. Scott Knaster basically reiterated Tech Note #2, follow top-level interfaces, many things "almost guaranteed to change." The QD global screenBits.bounds got mentioned several times, although he admitted that it was reasonable for a programmer to assume a rectilinear display (even if an unnamed product violates this rule.) Joel West ihnp4!gould9!joel Western Software Technology joel%gould9.uucp@NOSC.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 87 12:10:49 pst From: gould9!joel@nosc.ARPA (Joel West @ Western Software Technology) Subject: MacApp update from Macworld Expo The MacApp Developer's Association met for the second time. (No polo shirts this time, darn!) TEView is the biggest improvement since 1.0b2; most of the rest of the time was providing a complete (application-quality) memory management system. If you're using MPW Pascal {$LOAD} directives, the biggest bottleneck right now is the link. The developer's association will be distributing source code disks (including Schmucker's QuadWorld, since the Hayden disk distribution died when Hayden was bought). Closing date will be 6/87 for a disk available at Boston. Schmucker is working on a new example for Bix subscribers to watch and make suggestions, and he also is on Genie. The 2 half-day course was very successful (60+ people) and probably will be repeated in Boston. Harvey Alcabes (Apple's product manager) asked/offered ideas on new building blocks for MacApp, and took a poll of the audience. Among the ideas considered: Full AppleTalk support (definite) Document views > 65536 x 65536 pixels UDialog simplified (don't use CatViews) TextEdit > 32,000 chars (75% said yes) Text with formatting (75% said yes) Serial (50%) MacPaint bitmap views (?) SCSI (little interest) There was a suggestion that the MADA could help out by solving some of the simpler areas, such as better collections. C++ is no longer "C+-" but "minimal C++". Apple is working on it but since it's research, no guarantee as to when it will be out. This seems to be their #1 request. Larry Tesler, Apple VP for Advanced Technology, gave a pep talk about making object-oriented languages a reality. He hinted Apple was doing other things in this area he couldn't announce. Also suggested that MacApp would be important for IIgs and unannounced Macintosh products. Estimates are that only 50 to 100 companies (or individuals) are using MacApp, and only 10 to 15 for substantial projects. MacApp is being used by Apple for small projects in-house. Joel West ihnp4!gould9!joel Western Software Technology joel%gould9.uucp@NOSC.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 87 15:35:51 PST From: David Gelphman <daveg%slacvm.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Dungeon of Doom Version 4.0 Date: 11 Jan 87 13:00:05 GMT Sender: root@felix.UUCP Reply-to: macintosh@felix.UUCP (The Moderator) [ from usenet news ] This is part one of five of Dungeon of Doom version 4.0. It is shareware for $25.00 and is written in Lightspeed C. Enjoy! [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-DUNGEON-OF-DOOM-40-PART1.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-DUNGEON-OF-DOOM-40-PART2.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-DUNGEON-OF-DOOM-40-PART3.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-DUNGEON-OF-DOOM-40-PART4.HQX [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>GAME-DUNGEON-OF-DOOM-40-PART5.HQX DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 12:32:04 PST From: <DAVEG@slacvm.bitnet> Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Macput updated for multiple file transfers with VersaTerm A new improved VersaTerm (3.0) has been released and it now has a number of significant features. One new item is that it can now do multiple file downloads and uploads automatically using KERMIT or XMODEM. Lonnie Abelbeck, author of VersaTerm has provided the source for a new improved MACGET which will work with VersaTerm to transfer multiple files. I'm posting this new Macget as well as a 'differ' file which indicates the differences between the 'standard' macget and this posting for those who may have otherwise modified macget in other ways. David Gelphman BITNET address: DAVEG@SLACVM Bin #88 SLAC ARPANET address: DAVEG@SLACVM.BITNET Stanford, Calif. 94305 UUCP address: ...psuvax1!daveg%slacvm.bitnet 415-854-3300 x2538 usual disclaimer #432 applies: my employer apologies for the fact that I have access to this net. [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>MACGET-MULTIFILE.C [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>MACGET-MULTIFILE.DIFF DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 87 19:29:00 EST From: Richard Zaccone <ZACCONE%BUCKNELL.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU> Subject: TeXtures My major complaint with TeXtures has also been the fonts. I've been using TeXtures with LaTeX, and it is common for LaTeX to want to use an 18 pt font for a title or section heading. So far, the output produced by TeXtures has not been very good when printing these larger fonts. In fact, the larger fonts look terrible. Of course I could hack up LaTeX so that it uses the Laserwriter fonts whenever it needs 18 pt or 22pt, but after paying $500 for TeXtures, I expect *all* fonts to look great. These comments are based on version .95c of TeXtures. I haven't seen the output produce by .95f yet. Rick Zaccone zaccone@bucknell.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 87 16:09 EST From: Joe Mastroianni <JDM%SMVL%rca.com@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Icon Hacker Gee, Im sorry, im guilty of two evil things. These pertain to the version of Icon Hacker posted here. I need to re-post it, taking a little more time to be civil in the process. 1) The documentation to Icon Hacker is in MacWrite 2.2 "Entire Document" format. However, the file type is set to TEXT instead of WORD. This is because I used this file to test out my attribute changer ( inside Icon Hacker), and packed it instead of the unhacked file. If you are adventure-ish type, you can change the TEXT in the file type field to WORD (using resedit, fedit, File Hacker, or Icon Hacker) and all will be well. 2) Icon Hacker is shareware. I wanted to make sure my copyright notice would not be removed by non-registered users. So I put a checker in there that makes sure the notice isnt tampered with. However, even though I used NO 128K ROM SPECIFIC calls in the program, users with 64K ROMS will fail my checker. I dont know why. Im sorry. I dont have a Mac with 64K ROMS to do my Beta Testing on. I will do two things in response to the piles of mail I have been getting: 1) I will pack the CORRECT UNHACKED documentation along with 2) a recompiled version of Icon Hacker with the copyright checker removed. These I will post to Info-Mac as quickly as is reasonable for someone in my condition (half-crazed). I promise to be good in the future. Joe ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 87 13:41 EST From: HALLETT JEFFREY A <HALLETT@ge-crd.arpa> Subject: A few responses and a tip I'd like to respond to a few things from vol. 5 #39 and offer a tip. 1. Many people here have experienced severe data loss from their external drives. The major reason is that they have been keeping them on the left side of the Macintosh housing. DO NOT store your external drive either on the left side or on top of your Mac. The power supply is on the left side and it gets too hot on top. (This goes for Harddisks too). 2. To "Lisa" who needed a Laserwriter. Send me a disk and I'll only ask fro the cost of the paper back if it is too large. REspond to "hallett@ge-crd.arpa"if interested. (I tried to mail to her directly, but couldn't get a path.) 3. How compatible is a Jasmine 20 with the SCSI port offered with the Levco memory upgrades? Some one told me once that the SCSI port on Levco's Monster Mac upgrades is not a "true" SCSI port; it only mimics the protocol used by some SCSI drives. True? False? JAH ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 1987 11:27:50 PST Subject: Re: Laserwriter prints From: Richard Gillmann <GILLMANN@C.ISI.EDU> There's a place in Marina del Rey called Alphagraphics. They are some kind of new instant printer. The have four Mac+ workstations, a Laserwriter, and some kind of monster photocopier. I've been able to go in with a Mac disk, have it Laserprinted and duplicated, all in just a few minutes while I wait. This is some kind of franchise too, so there may be others around that are closer to you. They say soon they will have modem input too, which will be fantastic. They charge $2 a page for Velox laser printing, $12 an hour to use] their Mac+ workstations, and the usual rates for photocopying. Not cheap, but very fast and handy, in my opinion. Richard Gillmann ------------------------------ From: korn%cory.Berkeley.EDU@berkeley.edu (Peter "Arrgh" Korn) Subject: Re: MacWorld Expo Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 00:33:59 PST Please, PLEASE, let's not let a good desktop publishing forum degenerate into a Mac vs. Atari vs. PC vs. xxx debate/mud-slinging match. EVERY machine has it's strengths and weaknesses. Some are better suited to desktop publishing than others (an intel 8088 just doesn't cut it, I think we'll all agree). Some are better positioned in the business community than others (it's very hard to compare to the installed user base of MS-Dos machiens). BUT... what does any of this have to do with the purpose of this forum? Let's return to discussions of desktop publishing, ok? Peter P.S. folks, it's 'mac', or 'Mac'. But it's not 'MAC'. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jan 87 11:40:00 EST From: <bouldin@ceee-sed> Subject: 68020 vs 80386 Reply-to: <bouldin@ceee-sed> Given the hype in Infoworld and other big name media it is interesting to get some actual numbers for 68020 vs 80386 performance in a real world application. The standard benchmark for number crunching is a floating point benchmark called a whetstone. Like all benchmarks, this does not test every feature of a chip, and it tests a compiler along with the chip. However, the benchmark has been run on almost every large, and many small, computers. Since I have just seen the first quoted whetstone result on the Compaq 386, I thought it would be useful to summarize some numbers here. Computer/Compiler Single Prec. Whetstones (kilo-whets) Vax 11-780/ VMS Fortran(1) 1050 Mac+/Absoft Macfortran (2) 41 Mac+/Novy 020/881 upgrade(3) 214 Mac+/Prodiy 4 upgrade (4) 500 Compaq 386/ Lahey Fortran (5) 232 Compaq deskpro 286/Lahey(6) 98 Comments on the hardware/software: (1) Unloaded Vax 11-780 with VMS 4.x and latest release of the Fortran compiler. (2) Standard Macintosh with Absoft/Microsoft Compiler. (3) Mac+ upgraded with Novy 68020/881 board, running Absoft MacFortran 020 compiler. Clockrate is still 8 Mhz and data path is still 16 bits. (4) Mac+ upgraded with Prodigy 4 running Absoft MacFortran 020 compiler. Clockrate is 16 Mhz and data path is 32 bit. The factor of 2 over the Novy board is from clockrate increase and bus bandwidth. Except for the Mac's infamous "video refresh through the cpu" this benchmark would be closer to 750K whetstones. The Prodigy Prime and the Ryad 020/881 upgrades should provide essentially the same performance. (5) Compaq 386. Uses 16 Mhz 80386 with harware floating point supplied by a 12 Mhz 80287, since there is, as yet, no available 80387. Lahey Fortran compiler. (6) Compaq Deskpro 286, 80286/80287 running at 8 Mhz. Lahey Fortran Compiler. These results show pretty clearly the problems of the 80386 in the present MS-DOS environment. Despite the hype in the popular press the 80386 machines are only giving (roughly) a clockrate improvement over 80286 or 8086 machines. Some improvement will follow when 80386 specific compilers and software start to appear, but it is doubtful that this will make up the appoximate factor of 2 speed advantage of the 68020/881. Ironicallly, after years of dominance by the 8087 and 80287 it now appears that Motorola has a solid advantage in floating point chips with the 68881. The most interesting part of the benchmarks is to see how close we really are to providing true Vax level performance from a cheap desktop machine. By the end of this year, upgrade Macs will likely match or exceed VAX 780 performance. Here is the code for the whetstone benchmark in Absoft Fortran for the Mac. I think that, except for the routine that reads the time from the system that this will port to almost any fortran environment. [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>WHETSTONE-BENCHMARK.FORTRAN DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 02:03:59 PST From: <CVRRTAA@technion.bitnet> Reply-to: CVRRTAA%TECHNION.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Looking for help in Engineering applications I am a new Mac owner, my main fields of interest are Petroleum Engineering, Flo w in Porous Media and fluid mechanics. In the last few months I had the chance to see a lot of application for the mac. However, these had nothing to do with Engineering in my fields of interest. Since i read in few of your INFO-MAC tha t the Macintosh is more Engineering oriented than the IBM PC, I wonder where ca n I find information about Engineering applications for the Mac. I know that St anford University has the best Petroleum Eng. School in the world and since you are also located in Stanford I hope some help might come from you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 87 23:42:30 PST From: markt%cogsci.Berkeley.EDU@berkeley.edu (Mark Turner) Subject: cable for mac+ to ventel 2400 baud modem? Where in the San Francisco Bay Area, or from what mail order house, can I get a cable to hook a ventel 2400 baud modem to a mac+ ?? I think i need a male RS232 end and a a male circular 8-pin end. Thank you. markt@cogsci.berkeley.edu [ note from moderator: ComputerWare in Palo Alto sells all sorts of adapter cables. The 8pin to modem connector is $15. Their numbers for mail order are 800-323-1133 in CA and 800-235-1155 in the rest of the US. DAVEG ]16-Jan-87 15:00:25-PST,948;000000000001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 87 14:56:21 PST From: PUGH%CCC.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa Subject: Mac+ DIN8 to Mac DB9 connector One thing I forgot to mention about the MacWorld Expo was that Andy Hertzfeld showed me a bit of hardware that Thunderware was going to be releasing. It is a connector that will siphon power from your disk drive port to power an old style DB9 connector. It consists of a DB25 on one side with a DB25 and a DB9 on the other and a DIN8 on a short cable to plug into one of the Mac+ serial ports. It will eliminate the need for a transformer for such things as the Thunderscanner and MacNifty sound digitizer. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 87 11:35:34 CST From: pat@a.cs.uiuc.edu (Pat Kane) Subject: Need Unix tty --> AppleTalk hack Hi Macs, A few months ago I saw a program fly by on either infomac or usenet that took input from a Mac's serial line and sent it to the appletalk port... handy for routing postscript files from a Unix host to an Apple LaserWriter. I now need the code for a demo. Do you have a pointer to it? Pat Kane, Uo'I, Urbana IL ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 87 18:37:25 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #4 Delphi Mac Digest Saturday, 17 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 4 Today's Topics: File Transfers To/From IBM System 38 (6 messages) RE: imagewriter II problems RE: New Products Introduced at Macworld (2 messages) TML Pascal (3 messages) Database Appl (2 messages) lynx trackball DragGrayRgn and Scrolling (2 messages) Telescape-PRO VT100 RE: Database program RE: looking for information on connecting typewriters ... (2 messages) RE: Printer Spooling w/Mac+ RE: Surge Suppressors RE: Re: MacWorld Expo RE: bargain WP offer for Mac for $29.00? RE: Votes sought for 'most overrated' (2 messages) New Acta version Internet mail utility for Appletalk (2 messages) BCS Shareware Awards [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DELPHIV3-4.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 87 18:43:00 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #5 Delphi Mac Digest Saturday, 17 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 5 Today's Topics: RE: MacWorld expo note SuperLaserSpool for DataFrames Cricket Draw (4 messages) shut down hook (4 messages) Better screen fonts LaserWriter labels (2 messages) Stock Market (2 messages) Re: Program control of the MacPlus disk OS9 trap patches (14 messages) Animal, Vegetable, Mineral? (2 messages) ListMgr/TextEdit Data >32k (2 messages) RE: Pictures in Word RE: downloading postscript Re: Excel templates Re: mac cooling [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>DELPHIV3-5.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 87 18:58:12 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #4 Usenet Mac Digest Saturday, 17 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 4 Today's Topics: Rom Debugger -> Finder QUED 1.3 Re: Surge Suppressors Re: Rom Debugger -> Finder Hard disks Re: Should 64K ROMs be supported? YAFQ (Yet Another FORTRAN Query) Mac Serial Number ChipWits availability Finder 5.4a2 questions Print-Preview Saviour More MacinTalk info Andy - Servant Re: LSC 1.02 Interfaces Wanted: International Phonetic Alphabet for Mac/Laserwriter or QMS That rascally Macsbug Re: Request C program to drive Macintalk LaserWriter in Executive HalfTone Icons, Bundles, and Friendly Applications Setting Laserwriter Linewidth Re: Surge Suppressors Information, please. Drivers with Lightspeed Pascal Typing tutors for Mac [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>USENETV3-4.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 87 19:05:11 EST From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #5 Usenet Mac Digest Saturday, 17 January 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 5 Today's Topics: MS Word 3.0 delayed Re: Wanted: International Phonetic Alphabet for Mac/Laserwriter or QMS Re: YAFQ (Yet Another FORTRAN Query) Macintosh 100 (Delphi digest V3, #2) Re: Information, please. Sample Macintalk program (Lightspeed C) Please explain TextEdit feature... Re: Rom Debugger -> Finder _launch Mac+ to DMP 105 Printer or Other Prinerters???? HELP!!!! resources in other files in the blessed folder Bengali Font Re: Information, please. Re: resources in other files in the blessed folder IBM PC -> Imagewriter Re: Sample Macintalk program (Lightspeed C) Re: Hard disks Re: MacDraw file format? Aztec C upgrade Porting IBM PC Applications AppleTalk, ATP-timeout question Re: MacWorld Expo [ archived as [SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU]<INFO-MAC>USENETV3-5.ARC DAVEG ] ------------------------------ End of INFO-MAC Digest **********************