SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU.UUCP (02/22/87)
Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, 22 February 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: Government Forms on the Mac (6 messages) Hardware Help: Human Touch 3 to 1 (2 messages) Font Lib/HFS unauthorized RE: Investigations into Memory Usage Lightspeed Pascal (3 messages) MDS Edit 2.0 (2 messages) RE: protected files RE: TMON with FPD Rodime Drives (2 messages) RE: Multi-tasking and macDraw error RE: help on configuring system with davong New Jazz for a New Mac? RE: Carrying Case Warning Color Transparencies (3 messages) The Cache and cache bits. RE: non Chicago default font & temporary DA's Now I believe it too! (3 messages) ChemDraw (2 messages) bug GAUSS programming language (2 messages) RE: Reformatting "dead" Mac disks. RE: Icon bar Problem in MPW SF + List Manager ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM519 Subject: Government Forms on the Mac Date: 15-FEB 11:10 Business Mac Does anyone know of a commercial package available which produces forms or form facsimiles on the Mac? I work at a Mac-based office which wants to REMAIN Mac-based, but so far the only packages we have heard about run on IBM machines. We are most interested in processing the 5500 series, but there are a variety of others (1099,W-2, etc.) which would help as well. Send E-Mail or reply in Forum. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: RE: Government Forms on the Mac (Re: Msg 17319) Date: 15-FEB 11:49 Business Mac Did you check out MegaForm? I've ordered it and will have further comments on it when it arrives. Jeff ------------------------------ From: CADDMAN Subject: RE: Government Forms on the Mac (Re: Msg 17319) Date: 15-FEB 16:26 Business Mac FILEMAKER+ and HELIX, as well as MEGAFORMS, can work. ------------------------------ From: CADDMAN Subject: RE: Government Forms on the Mac (Re: Msg 17319) Date: 15-FEB 17:41 Business Mac There's also something called "MacFill-In"--$39 from Cognitive Concepts, 408/243-6886. And they have a $15 pack of tax form templates, too. Hope this helps! ------------------------------ From: MADMACS Subject: RE: Government Forms on the Mac (Re: Msg 17319) Date: 15-FEB 23:32 Business Mac We recently had a demo of a new program that lets you enter data by hand or merged from a database on to a 300 dpi image of a scanned form. The software is called MacForm (I think) and you can find out about it by calling Mitch Stein at Spectrum Digial Systems 608 244-4300 or write to 2702 International lane, Suite 112, Madison, WI 53704-3122. By the way, they also are selling a really neat SCSI scanner the guts of which are made by cannon. <15 sec to scan an entire page at 300 dpi. It also has good registration (alignment) so the form goes in straight. Best yet: it lists at $1500!!! -Doug (MADMACS) ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER Subject: RE: Government Forms on the Mac (Re: Msg 17319) Date: 15-FEB 23:40 Business Mac You could use ThunderScan to make copies of the forms and then use FileMaker Plus to get output -- Paste them into Filemaker and then put your database fields in the appropriate places at the appropriate size. Cost of FileMaker Plus and Thunderscan, about $500. Lofty ------------------------------ From: CADDMAN Subject: Hardware Help: Human Touch 3 to 1 Date: 15-FEB 16:37 Hardware & Peripherals I need help. I bought a Human Touch 3-to-1 board a few months ago. It replaces the 68000 in th Mac with a faster one (12MHz) and adds 1.5 megs. Worked fine. One day, I upgraded to a Plus; the 3-to-1 then caused zebra bars. I called Human Touch, and they sent me a capacitor on a DIP carrier to mount over one of the IC's, by pressing it on. It worked, and my speedy Mac was back in business. A couple of weeks ago, a power glitch occurred while I was in another room. When I looked at the Mac, it had the dreaded zebra bars. When I disabled the 3-to-1 board, everything was fine, and the Mac works as a regular Mac+. Human Touch, I found, had gone out of business, and left no forwarding 'phone number. Now, I suspect that the "rider" capacitor was damaged by the power glitch, in spite of my surge protector. The 3-to-1 external power supply still supplies 5 vdc. The capacitor tests "open" on my cheap multimeter, so I don't know if it is truly open or what. It is a very tiny brown one, with the number "528" on it. I tried replacing it with a .47 microfarad tantalum cap from Radio Shack, but that didn't work. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I really miss the extra speed & memory. Thanks in advance. -Joel Orr ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: Hardware Help: Human Touch 3 to 1 (Re: Msg 17323) Date: 15-FEB 20:03 Hardware & Peripherals Well, .47 microfarad is not 'tiny' (although it may be physically small). Capacitor value coding is not anywhere as uniform as resistor coding, so it's hard to say what '528' means. If the capacitor is a small disk, then its value is probably a lot smaller than .47 microfarad. A disk cap that size would probably be around an inch in diameter and the thickness of a nickle. Capacitors normally test 'open' on a multimeter. If they don't they are either shorted or they are electrolytic caps measured in the wrong polarity. If you take the suspect capacitor to Radio Shack, they can probably help you measure its value and determine if it is damaged. User LOGICHACK might be able to give you some advice generally on the Human Touch board. peter ------------------------------ From: JIMWEINRICH Subject: Font Lib/HFS unauthorized Date: 15-FEB 20:12 User Supported Software WARNING: "FONT LIBRARIAN HFS" IS UNAUTHORIZED David Richey, one of the forces behind the program called "Font Librarian," visited me recently in Cambridge Mass. I told him thanks for revising the Font Librarian to run under HFS and he said, "HFS? We never did that! Font Librarian is very risky under HFS, and I can't imagine how it could be modified to work right. We certainly didn't do it." So let it be known: "Font Librarian/HFS" is an UNauthorized revision of the Font Librarian program. David also wants me to point out that, for this reason and others, they will no longer be accepting shareware payments for the Font Librarian, and will return or toss out any they receive. So: Use Font Librarian/HFS at your own risk! --Jim Weinrich CompuServe 74726,3610 Delphi JIMWEINRICH Contributing Editor, Mac In Touch magazine ------------------------------ From: IVANOVIC Subject: RE: Investigations into Memory Usage (Re: Msg 17325) Date: 16-FEB 05:51 Programming Peter, Oh dear me, this is going to be embarassing. I can tell already... The alert that TurboCharger puts up has some numbers and a label that says "Application Size". Since every RAM disk and cache I have ever come across lets you set the size of the RAM disk or the cache, I never caught on the TurboCharger's control lets you set the size of what it is NOT going to use. Everything makes sense now... Peter, please don't let this get out. People might think I'm daft. Dream up some explanation. -- Vladimir ------------------------------ From: IVANOVIC Subject: Lightspeed Pascal Date: 16-FEB 05:55 Programming Well, I finally succumbed and plunked down my $89 and got a copy of LSP. Now that I've been playing with it for a couple of days, is it worth it? Absolutely. No question. I would recommend it to any serious programmer, and to novices as well. Here are some thoughts. I am porting a 7734 line program to the Macintosh. I wouldn't even consider doing it in TML Pascal. LSP's integrated environment makes it doable. The last time I used TML, the linker kept on crashing. In general, the LSP compiler gives excellent error messages. I think it is outstanding that the manual has 68 pages of error messages complete with code fragments illustrating examples of each error and how to fix them. In contrast, TML Pascal has 4 pages which merely repeats the text of the error -- no explanation, nothing. I do have one beef about errors: why force the programmer either to click in the bug alert or to press <Return>? Why not allow any key press or a mouse click anywhere? What does one gain doing it LSP's way? I have to make an extra movement to get rid of the bug alert, and God knows, I have enought of them! I haven't gotten to debugging yet. TML permits Macsbug or TMON. LSP has an integrated debugger plus Macsbug or TMON. It supports _Debugger and _DebugStr calls. I couldn't find any reference to the two calls in TML's documentation: it doesn't have a section on debugging -- LSP has 16 pages. I can't wait until THINK Technologies comes out with a MacApp version -- it'll be awesome! ANSI/IEEE/ISO Level 0 standard Pascal! Yeah! At last, an compiler that accepts standard Pascal. Instantly obsoletes TurboPascal and TML PAscal. When are we going to get conformant arrays (ISO Level 1) I wonder? I do hope that they fix the following small items before they come out with their Object Pascal/MacApp version. No assembly language output. For serious programming, you really need it. I use it once in a blue moon, but when I do, I really need it. That feature is essential for checking the output of the compiler, and I don't think that the LSP people would claim that their compiler is perfect. Close, I'll buy... No cross-referencing. If you program is larger than, say, 10 pages, it takes forever to find an obscure identifier and everywhere it's referenced. Cross- referencing can also shows the size and type of identifiers. 2500 line limit for units in the editor. Too small. How about infinite? OK, so the symbol tables might get a trifle large. LSP should handle 100,000 lines, easy. Remember, we're only talking about a 10 minute compile. Also, don't forget that in a few short weeks, Apple will announce (hush, this is S-E-C-R-E-T information!) a 16 MHz 68020 based Sun/microVAX-killer with mega-memory, slots and an outboard french fryer. I'd like to be able to use LSP on this machine. BTW, when I write code, I modularize thngs. When I port code, I make do with what I got. All in all, a superb product. -- Vladimir P.S. I have no affiliation with THINK Technologies except as a customer of their products. ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER Subject: RE: Lightspeed Pascal (Re: Msg 17336) Date: 16-FEB 22:12 Programming Unfortunately, the outboard French fryer works only with peanut oil, while Lightspeed Pascal requires safflower.... If the Linker kept crashing with TML Pascal, it may be that you compiled MacIntf.Pas to a disk that didn't have enough room on it. The compiler wouldn't notice but the linker will crash. At least that happened to me. I use Lightspeed all the time to prototype, then convert to TML for production code. The code is a lot tighter, and I can tweak the .ASM output if I need to -- for speed, for efficiency, or (in doing DA's and FKEYs) to get the header the way I want it. -Lofty ------------------------------ From: IVANOVIC Subject: RE: Lightspeed Pascal (Re: Msg 17345) Date: 18-FEB 23:47 Programming About TML's linker crashing... I have a hard disk with 2000K to 5000K free at any given time. For a while I was conivinced that it was trying to stuff more than 32K in a single segement, but I eventually solved that problem. After a couple more attempts, I gave up. I do want to keep TML around for the assembly language stuff (are you listen THINK?), but it's news to me that TML produces better code. I'll keep that in mind. -- Vladimir ------------------------------ From: IVANOVIC Subject: MDS Edit 2.0 Date: 16-FEB 05:56 Programming It seems that MDS Edit 2.0 can't handle large files. Hangs or crashes on saves and prints. Fails to update the active window, messes up the elevator button. Does anyone know what the cutoff in size is? Does QUED have these problems? Does anyone make a robust editor? What does Apple use internally? -- Vladimir ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: MDS Edit 2.0 (Re: Msg 17337) Date: 17-FEB 00:21 Programming QUED is RAM based, but if you've got a Mac Plus with a megabyte or more, you'll be able to handle large files. It has a few oddities, but seems to work well. I'd recommend it over Edit; it's a much more powerful program. Ric ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: protected files Date: 16-FEB 22:20 Network Digests With regard to Andrew S. Glassner's problem with protected files; the latest ve version of MacTools (with COPY II Mac) can handle the protect bit for HFS files. It probably can also force a reformat. ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: TMON with FPD (Re: Msg 1262) Date: 18-FEB 01:49 Tools for Developers It uses the upper-left part of the Radius screen; I suspect this is so it works on any non-512*342 display. ------------------------------ From: HALL Subject: Rodime Drives Date: 18-FEB 23:24 Hardware & Peripherals Does anyone know anything about Rodime's new SCSI drives for the Mac? Specifically, the external 45MB. Or any comments on Rodime in general? I can't remember ever hearing anything bad about Rodime... Brian ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Rodime Drives (Re: Msg 17379) Date: 19-FEB 08:39 Hardware & Peripherals I think the access time is stated to be 28ms. The warranty is for a year, if I remember rightly. Ric ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD Subject: RE: Multi-tasking and macDraw error Date: 19-FEB 06:34 Network Digests To: HALLETT JEFFREY A <HALLETT@ge-crd.arpa> Re: Multi-tasking and macDraw error I would have to guess that MacDraw subscribes to the "3K Scrap" convention, to avoid stack overflow. You must have had many items on your diagram. Maybe the Macintosh does not need multi-tasking. Print Spooling sure can come in handy though. Other than that, editing messages and transcripts while a file downloads or uploads is pretty useful too. A Mac comes with three or four ports - no reason not to use them all at once. (oops, I forgot the sound synthesizer...) From a technical standpoint, the Macintosh is not a multi-tasking computer. Its hardware does not function as discrete units, and there is no memory lockout between system and application tasks. However, what the Macintosh does provide is applications which are similar enough that a user can use them with no muss nor fuss. The interface helps us look in the right places.. Laird J. Heal "You can lead a man to wonder, but you can't make him think" ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD Subject: RE: help on configuring system with davong Date: 19-FEB 06:39 Network Digests To: uucp: allegra!kautz : kautz@allegra.UUCP (Henry Kautz) Re: help on configuring system with davong The Davong hardware is currently being remarketed. It is not listed by name, but "R.A.L. Consulting" advertises in "Computer Shopper", and sells the controller boards, cases, power-supplies and drives. He includes Davong software and a manual - but has no apparent direct connection with them. The Davong Volume Manager application has a problem running with the 128K ROMs. Let's rephrase that: it had to be patched to run. It is an easy patch for anyone with Inside Macintosh Volume IV. I sent the patched application and a boot-from-floppy application I put together to the vendor. Other than that, all the software has run fine on my Macintosh 512K enhanced. You should have no problem with upgrading your Macintosh (aside from the Volume Manager patch) but I advise only getting the ROM/Drive upgrade, and shopping around for a 2MB RAM clip-on if you want more memory: I hear Macintosh Plus upgrades eat power supplies for breakfast: SNAP! CRACKLE! POP! AppleTalk seems to run alright when you connect the Macintosh to the Davong via the Modem port and then put AppleTalk on the other. The Davong senses which port it is on. Caveat: I only wire AppleTalk up occasionally, and neither have nor really need a LaserWriter. Best telecomputing advice is to have the Davong on the Printer Port and capture text either to RAMdisk or a floppy. You can lose some data otherwise; the Sony driver only saves Modem port data. Using the latest version of Macintosh System software should be fine. Be sure to have the same version of System on the boot floppy as on your hard drive's volume (my application checks for this too), as it is important. You only need to "Install Drivers" on the boot volume, not on the hard disk. Running (in Volume Manager) with HFS active formats HFS volumes; an earlier System yields MFS volumes. Guess where I put MacDraw? [on an MFS volume with a System Folder] Formatting a volume under HFS (128K ROMs or "Hard Disk 20" installed at startup) presents a quirk. The Davong driver parks the heads when the disk is unused for about 10 seconds. With MFS, you can wait, choose "Shut Down", and power down, but HFS writes to his volumes as a part of unmounting them. The Macintosh shuts down without parking the heads. I could start up Volume Manager to unmount the volumes, but it is more convenient to have a spare boot disk that does not activate any volumes automatically. I reboot using the second disk, wait until the heads park, "Shut Down" again, and then power off. A very nice feature of the Davong controller (if yours and mine are the same) is that when this drive wears out, its replacement can have a higher capacity. The manual lists some compatible drives; my Seagates work just fine too, and any ST-506 interface drive is worth trying. I did have one trouble with the Acta DA on the Davong. I eventually diagnosed it to a DRVR 18 problem. Since I could work around it by installing another DA as DRVR 18 (I cloned Acta, actually) I did not bother looking harder. Laird J. Heal USnail: P.O. Box 1485, Salem, NH 03079 Delphi: MACLAIRD Sorry, no UUCP: Anyone desiring to pay me for the privilege of being on it is invited to! ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: New Jazz for a New Mac? Date: 19-FEB 11:38 Business Mac According to a report in this week's Computerworld, Lotus Development is planning to release a souped up version of Jazz the first week of March, to coincide with the rollout of Apple's new machines. As is often the case with unsubstantiated reports of unannounced products, very few more details were provided. peter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Carrying Case Warning (Re: Msg 16930) Date: 19-FEB 11:51 Business Mac I got a call from Robin Caswell, VP of ComputerAid today, about the problem of static build-up. She seemed genuinely concerned and said they would be looking into the problem and correcting it. ComputerAid apparently manufactures dust covers as well, which they use an anti-static cloth for. If you'd like more information from the company itself, call Robin at 401-245-0532 in Rhode Island. I think she'd also appreciate feedback, positive or negative, from other people who have experience using their carrying cases. (A group at Dartmouth College apparently buys quite a few.) Ric Ford, "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: JEFFS Subject: Color Transparencies Date: 19-FEB 20:33 Business Mac I would like to use my ImageWriter II to print color transparencies. Anyone find a combination of transparency material/colored ribbons that don't smear when printed? So far all I get is smeared output :-(. Jeff ------------------------------ From: NWOLF Subject: RE: Color Transparencies (Re: Msg 17395) Date: 22-FEB 01:04 Business Mac As far as I know you're outta luck on that one - for now. But if you find out be sure to let me know. I'll do the same for you. There appear to be 2 approaches to the problem: finding a material which will accept the ink; inking the ribbons with a non-smearing (quick drying?) ink. The latter is much more likely. My experience with these type of inks is limited to rubber stamps - but there's no reason why you couldn't ink a new (uninked) ribbon with them. They are not water soluble, dry quickly, and will print on almost anything (glass, plastic, etc.) There is a solvent usually sold with them which will revive them, also. Sorry, don't have brand names. Check with a rubberstamp place. The ink isn't too expensive and could easily be applied with a MacInker. If you choose to do this, lemme know how it turns out. I haven't got a MacInker or I would've tried it already. Perhaps I'll check it out as I'm currently teaching a class for which I must make up transparencies every week. So far, I either print them on the LaserWriter or with a copier. It'd be neat to do them in color on the IW, though. MacInker now has a modelk avaialable which will ink the 4-color ribbons. Using a new ribbon and the 4 primary colors, one might be able to do wonders.... ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: RE: Color Transparencies (Re: Msg 17459) Date: 22-FEB 01:35 Business Mac Oh yeah...I meant to reply to this one. I had to prepare some trans overlays a few months back, and wanted to use color. I tried several different acetate types, trying for a bit more "tooth" to hold the ink from the color ribbon in the IW. I, too, found smearing a big problem. My solution won't help if you have a great quantity to prepare, but I ended up just shooting the outline graphs to the Laserwriter (these were pie charts) and printing them in same on the 3M acetate sheets. With these nice clean sheets, I took a few bottles of Cel Paint, such as used by Disney animators preparing acetate cels for a cartoon, and painted in the parts of the charts with it. A pain, but the beautiful, rich colors were great on the screen. Alf ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: The Cache and cache bits. (Re: Msg 17393) Date: 19-FEB 22:20 Network Digests >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 87 17:26:28 est >From: levine@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jonathan M. Levine) >Subject: The Cache and cache bits. > After discovering the extra speed the cache gives to the Finder, I tried >turning the Cache Bits on (via ResEdit) for a bunch of files. I turned it >on for Switcher, MacWrite, MacDraw, Finder, Imagewriter, System...I think >that's it. > > Anyway, I was running Switcher 4.4 with a 128K Cache, and MacWrite and Draw It is not necessary to use the Cache bits (the bit doesn't actually do anything). But DEFINITELY get rid of Switcher 4.4! You should be using Switcher 5.0 or 5.0.1 with System 3.2! peter "In any context, half of all references PEABO @ DELPHI are local and half are global." ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: non Chicago default font & temporary DA's Date: 20-FEB 03:52 Network Digests > From: Samir Kaleem <XSAK%ECNCDC.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> > How do you make the Mac+ use a default font other than Chicago? The default font is actually Geneva on most systems, but Lofty Becker's got several programs to change it (I use KeyMap). A lot of programs ignore the "Application Font" anyway (e.g. MacWrite). To change the "System Font" (used for menus, window titles, etc.) you need to install the font you want to use, then edit the resource FOND 0 in your system file. Just change the entry "12" to the appropriate resource ID of the font ( and size) you want to use. > How about a DA that lets you install fonts temporarily? Lofty Becker wrote an FKEY called Fontsie to do just that. David Dunham "Whenever you see a sign 'No Exit,' it means Maitreya Design there is an exit." ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: Now I believe it too! Date: 20-FEB 00:56 Business Mac There have been reports from time to time about rare cases where the Finder doesn't detect errors while copying files. This just happened to me too. I copied a file from floppy disk to my hard disk and when I went to open it with an editor, the editor said it was empty. Come to find out that the Finder copied the resource fork, but not the data fork of the file! Investigation with Fedit showed that two sectors in the data fork of the file on floppy (making up a 1K block) were unreadable (error code -81, unable to find sector). The floppy disk had been recorded on a different machine, so I got another disk, went back to the machine that wrote the one that wouldn't copy and did a full disk copy by dragging the bad disk over top of the good one. This second disk copies just fine to the hard disk. I'm saving the bad disk for testing new Finders with. I don't think I'll lose any sleep over this one, since it is not a frequent occurrence, but it is a bit bothersome that the Finder would copy only part of a bad file without alerting the user about the problem. peter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Now I believe it too! (Re: Msg 17401) Date: 20-FEB 04:24 Business Mac That's *real* bothersome, and I trust that you're using an absolutely standard Hard Disk 20SC? Ric ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: Now I believe it too! (Re: Msg 17404) Date: 20-FEB 12:37 Business Mac There is always the possibility that "something in my system" did it. It was repeatable (I tried several times to copy) but I didn't try rebooting or powering down. That's the next step. I will also try a bit copy of the disk to see if the problem can be reproduced easily. I am hoping this is not a Phase of the Moon problem, because if it is, it will be quite difficult to troubleshoot. peter ------------------------------ From: GBERKOWITZ Subject: ChemDraw Date: 20-FEB 14:47 SIG Business Hello. Can anyone out there please tell me the source of ChemDraw, a molecule drawing program for the Mac? If you know of any other applications for 2- dimensional drawing of molecules, please let me know. Thank you, --Gene ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: RE: ChemDraw (Re: Msg 17408) Date: 21-FEB 01:33 SIG Business Hi Gene, ChemDraw is available from Cambridge Scientific Computing, P.O. Box 2123, Cambridge, MA 02238 617/495-4707...get a good grip on your mouse....it is priced at $495.00. Unless you are synthesizing particularly sought after chemical compounds, I'd think it'd be hard to justify the price. You might try contacting the Coordinator, Microcomputer Program, Office of Computing Services, Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA 19104. The have recently completed V 1.0 of Molecular Editor, "a software-based construction kit for building molecules, crystals, or other structures that can be represented by interconnected points or spheres in three dimensions. You can build or edit structures of over 100 atoms from any element in the periodic table (or by subjecting your input device to streams of radioactivity, maybe create some new "miceotopes"...grin). Three-dimensional versions of Cut, Copy, and Paste allow you to build any molecule from an initial collection of basic structures and functional groups." - From the Fall '86 Wheels For The Mind...more there, if you can locate a copy. The do not mention a price, but state that a PD demo version is currently available. It looks like a nice program, including an animation feature, full LW and IW printout, and a collection of sample files. If you locate a copy of the PD demo, it'd be neat if you could upload it here... Hope it helps, Alf ------------------------------ From: STANKRUTE Subject: bug Date: 21-FEB 12:09 Bugs & Features A quick note to users of my Teleport* 2.81 program: after a long period of distraction, I've got my hands on a Mac with 128K ROMs. Certain ill-behaved programs, such as Word 1.05, crash when Teleporting under these new ROMs. I'm working on a major fix, but the temporary patch is as follows: using Fedit Plus (or a similar tool), change the string of bytes 404D0E to 40F6D8. The string occurs twice in Teleport* 2.81. This'll give you a version of Teleport* 2.81 that works with ill-behaved applications when running under the128K ROMs. It won't work with the offenders under 64K ROMs, so keep the original version around. I suggest you do some renaming: Teleport* 2.81 128K ROM and Teleport* 2.81 64K ROM. Oy, such a kloooodddjjjj... That's why the major fix is in the works. But it does work. Stan (embarassed but practical) Krute ------------------------------ From: GUSTAVO Subject: GAUSS programming language Date: 21-FEB 14:52 Programming Making an iterative model in matrix form I found GAUSS for IBM (that doesn't exist for Mac and a Mac version is not even in the most futuristic plans of the guys at Applied Technologies). I'm shopping around for and want to buy a program like this for Ma c and wander if anybody knows about it. Gauss is a programming language written in 8087 math-coprocessor code that uses matrices and vectors as basic units of calculation, with dot.operators to allow for operations between usually non-comformable matrices/vectors and with the possibility of wri ting multiple matrix operations in the same instruction. Looks quite unstructured (kind of BASIC look) so you don't have to declare matrix/vector dimensions before using them. The multi-operaton instruction capability is specially important for me. DOES ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT SOME MAC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE THAT CAN DO THESE KIND OF STUFF ???? If so please communicate with me either at BCS Mac user group or at Delphi (in both places codename Gustavo) or call me phone Off (617) 353 93 30 Home(617) 325 5029 Thanks a lot Gustavo ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: RE: GAUSS programming language (Re: Msg 17428) Date: 21-FEB 15:12 Programming I think APL is the closest match for what you're looking for. There is a demo of an APL for the Mac from Leptonic Systems in the database here, and LEPTONICSYS is on frequently and might be able to advise you further. In all there are two or maybe three implementations of APL. The other source I would suggest is the Apple University Consortium, since a lot of research projects see the light of day through them. peter ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: Reformatting "dead" Mac disks. Date: 22-FEB 03:52 Network Digests > From: Wayne <BILLING%UOFMCC.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> > Subject: Reformatting "dead" Mac disks. Another technique I've had to use with alarming frequency (my hard disk is frequently playing possum after a crash) is to run Apple's Disk First Aid program and repair the disk. David Dunham "If it has syntax, it isn't user-friendly." Maitreya Design ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: RE: Icon bar Problem in MPW Date: 22-FEB 03:52 Network Digests > From: creech@unc.UUCP (Jeff Creech) > Subject: Icon bar Problem in MPW Sounds suspiciously like your icon resources are purgeable, and getting purged. You might want to throw a GetResource() before the PlotIcon(). David Dunham "If it has syntax, it isn't user-friendly." Maitreya Design ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM Subject: SF + List Manager Date: 22-FEB 03:53 Programming Techniques Has anyone used List Manager inside an SFPut dialog? I'm getting a nasty crash when I say "no" to the "Really replace" alert. It doesn't seem to be the activate or update events, because I can put up other dialogs over the SF without any problems. And saying "yes" to the alert works, too. ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************ -------