SHULMAN@slb-test.CSNET (Jeffrey Shulman) (03/15/87)
Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, March 15, 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: RE: Word Scatology MacApp "PD" Software (2 messages) laserwriter carts more word observations MAC SE RSG 3.0 Upgrades/Fixes FONTastic upgrades (2 messages) PCPC HFS Backup 2.0 Word 3.0 crashes (2 messages) BUGS (4 messages) Re: VBL tasks Re: Re: addq.w for popping arguments? Re: PROTECTING STATIC MEMORY asynchron serial driver calls (2 messages) laser spoolers Mac Plus and Hard disk powerdown Stresed Nodes More Press Releases... MacApp Developer's Association Newslette Mac SE first Impressions (2 messages) RE: Disk Repairs LW FONTS & FONDS Question about Mac SE overseas (3 messages) bootable 4.0 MacHack '87 Word 3.0 bugs Mac II monitor questions RE: Mulitple LW copies with MS Word 3.0 1000 miles... LoDOWN LD155 RE: Re: PROTECTING STATIC MEMORY ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PEABO Subject: RE: Word Scatology (Re: Msg 18037) Date: 11-MAR 00:19 Bugs & Features On a slightly related point, I wonder if the Microsoft spell checker accepts any very strange words that never appear in English or any other language known to humans? Such things are sometimes used to put a signature on a database so that it can be proved that you stole it. All Microsoft has to do is type one of these weird words in and notice that 'your' spell check thinks it's spelled correctly. Granthelwqgphlaerztng, peter ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: MacApp "PD" Software Date: 10-MAR 23:59 Programming My copy of MacApp 1.0 arrived today, and I noticed that Apple has included the license agreement with this version. In order to distribute a program built with MacApp, you must pay a blanket license fee of $100 per year and sign the license agreement. Paying the $100 gives you the right to distribute as many independent applications as you wish (unlike the System/Finder licenses). You do have to tell Apple the names of the programs within 90 days of release. You have to include Apple's MacApp copyright notice in the program and some disclaimer language in the documentation. I think just for fun :-) I'll call Apple Licensing and ask them about publicly distributed free programs and see what they say. peter ------------------------------ From: AESOP Subject: RE: MacApp "PD" Software (Re: Msg 18099) Date: 15-MAR 06:13 Programming Yah, if they have a copyrightable work, and want to see their copyright notice on derivative works, they have the right. However, doesn't this kind of indicate that MacApp is not the kind of tool that is suitable for "serious" programming - more for the Sunday bit-flipper? Laird ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: laserwriter carts Date: 11-MAR 01:12 Hardware & Peripherals I have noted a couple of times that Quill Corporation is a good source for computer supplies like fanfold paper, labels, ribbons, etc. (they are much too high on Mac disks, but I think they sell rather few to date). I was surprised to find that their new Microcomputer supplies catalog now lists Canon cartridges for the Apple Laserwriter, #203-S-CNEP-CART-BK, priced at $99.88 through April. If interested, you can write them at: Quill Corp, PO Box 4700, Lincolnshire, IL 60197 and request to be placed on their mailing list. To order, the phone # is 312-634-4800. Alf P.S. I have no connection with this company other than satisfied customer for several years. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: more word observations Date: 11-MAR 02:53 Business Mac I was real jazzed (no pun intended) with Word 3.0 for about the first 3 days. It's starting to wear a little thin already. The copy I have seems to be in love with the New York font--it constantly switches back to it when I change the font style. I suppose it's something I'm doing wrong, but I don't think I should have to study the manual for 2 weeks to use this program. I also just recently purchased a copy of More (finally!) and I am finding myself using More more and Word less (aren't Mac names fun!) . MS could definitely take a few lessons from Living Videotext. Joe ------------------------------ From: MICMAC Subject: MAC SE Date: 11-MAR 10:58 Business Mac I've seen the Macintosh SE and I found it very _UGLY_... I wonder if Jerry C. Mannock (the great designer of the Apple II and the Macintosh) is still at Apple? Looking at the SE and the Mac II the answer seems to be NO. Maybe he is at NeXt... (has anyone the answer?) [Sometimes young children are very beautifull; but when they've grown up, by education, they look as common people... It's too bad the Macintosh grown up that way!] And I wonder why they changed the Keyboard Mapping ?!? This has nothing to do with DeskTop Bus... And why no ROM Upgrade for other Macintosh? Is the presence of that same DeskTop Bus a valid excuse to not upgrade? I don't think so! There is AppleTalk in the 128K ROM's and most of people never uAppleTalk... I sometimes wonder if Mac PLUS can _really_ be upgraded till 4 megs (power supply! I mean, I sometimes wonder if Apple is playin' our bill... Michel Coste - MiC MAC Editor. PS. I'm very interested by NeXt. Has someone the same interest here? ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: RSG 3.0 Upgrades/Fixes Date: 11-MAR 21:01 Bugs & Features It's kinda fun trying to wriggle past the service staff at Letraset...grin. They obviously have little experience in dealing with software upgrades, so getting to a technical support staffer for questions involves a lot of repetition and explanation. At least they are very cordial and *willing* to listen, and while you may not reach your destination quickly, you won't be put on HOLD, either. Whatever else may have gone down in the deal with Boston Publishing, it does seem that Letraset is committed to support of RSG now that they have it. RSG 3.1 is in the works, with actual availability scheduled for May 1. While it will correct "all known" program bugs with RSG 3.0, they are trying to add some small new features as well, requested by users. Details aren't far enough along to say for sure, I was told, but they expect to handle the upgrade as they are currently doing for owners...if your copy of RSG 3.0 is not the latest (should have Dec. 15, 1986 as the Creation Date in Get Info) you send in your master disk for the newest version, freebie. In the meantime, the staff is happy to try to work around problems you might have with RSG 3.0. The support number is 1-800-634-3463. If you keep asking for "ReadySetGo 3.0 Technical Support", you'll get through. Alf ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: FONTastic upgrades Date: 11-MAR 21:02 Bugs & Features ..and now to a company not so helpful or interested in users, Altsys. I called to get information on FONTastic PLUS upgrades from FONTastic and reported problems having Fontographer fonts download to Laserwriters with the newest LW system files installed. I got neither. RE: the upgrade to FONTastic PLUS, I was told there would be an upgrade, and it would probably be $30, but they didn't really know. I was told that they will be trying to send out information to registered users on the upgrade in the next few weeks, but didn't know what it would be. As to the LW problem, first I was told that since Apple had not released the new LW files in anything but Beta-test versions, they had no information. After some talk, they admitted that they did receive release copies of the new System files last week but had not had time to install them, so they couldn't say anything about problem. I figured that as long as they were wanting to be evasive, I'd ask about copy-perversion. It won't be on FONTastic PLUS (yeah!), but it will remain on Fontographer (booo! hisss!). While they wouldn't come out and admit it, I gathered the reason was the price they would have to pay to use CP would up FONTastic PLUS ($79.95) out of the price bracket they want it in. After some semi-heated talk about the hassles of using Fontographer in its CP state, they admitted it would be better to have it non-perverted, "but not yet". Alf ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: FONTastic upgrades (Re: Msg 18070) Date: 11-MAR 22:16 Bugs & Features The new LW drivers change the way built-in fornts are referenced. Composite characters using Helvetica do not work unless Helvetica is used previously for at least one character. ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: PCPC HFS Backup 2.0 Date: 11-MAR 21:03 Bugs & Features And one for the road, as they say... Upgrade information from HFS Backup V1 to V2 will go out to registered users next week, according to PCPC. The upgrade price has been set at $15, high for a drink, low for a horse, but worth it if the upgrade helps you keep a backup of any one file from a visit through the hole in the ozone layer. Alf ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: Word 3.0 crashes Date: 11-MAR 22:20 Bugs & Features Jeff Angus of InfoWorld, Seattle bureau, has agree to act as an interface to Microsoft with regard to crashes while running Word 3.0, and has asked me to post this message. If you have a crash while running Word 3.0, please accumulate as much information as possible and call Jeff at 1-206-633-5105 ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Word 3.0 crashes (Re: Msg 18111) Date: 12-MAR 22:41 Bugs & Features I will foward any significant information on the thread to him. In particular I will give Jeff any phone numbers either in the thread or in Delphi mail messages to me. Jeff is interested only in the system crash problem, not in lesser bugs. There is one known way to produce a crash - Put a glossary FILE in the WORK menu, and open it from the menu. THIS IS NOT THE CRASH PROBLEM THAT PROMPTED THIS THREAD. If you have a crash during any "normal" editing please try to note as much information as possible and foward it. Problems of this nature are notoriously hard to track down. ------------------------------ From: MRCUTTERMAN Subject: BUGS Date: 12-MAR 00:34 Bugs & Features Does anyone else have problems with FileMaker Plus giving system errors on a 512K mac (not enhanced). I am running with the system that Filemaker included. Not the brand new one but the one before it. I can't remember the numbers. I have a feeling that the system is causing the memory to get full before sending the data to disk. Any how it's getting me worried Any comments will be appreciated. ------------------------------ From: FRIED Subject: RE: BUGS (Re: Msg 18083) Date: 12-MAR 03:39 Bugs & Features I am running Filemaker Plus on a 512E, and when I first got it, I had a few crashes, but I haven't had any lately. I *think* the crashes had more to do with disk space problems than memory, because when I removed the system files from the disk, the crashes seem to have disappeared. I moved the System to another disk because my files are large, but I have had few problems since, at least of the crash variety. Sorry I can't be more specific. After using FM+ for a few months, I can tell you that I would not even bother TRYING to use it if all I had was two 400K drives. It's tight enough with two 800K drives. On the other hand, I really like the package, because it's extremely easy to do what I want, and as long as I design the database right the first time (and I always do, of course <grin>), it's trouble-free. Bob ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: BUGS (Re: Msg 18083) Date: 12-MAR 17:35 Bugs & Features One thing is to work on only one document at a time, instead of opening multiple files. That could help. Ric ------------------------------ From: CHUQ Subject: RE: BUGS (Re: Msg 18083) Date: 12-MAR 22:59 Bugs & Features I've never had a problem with FileMaker Plus on my 512Ke (with new ROMs). As far as I can tell, it is solid as a rock. Perhaps a ROM incompatibility is showing up -- or something you have to load into RAM because you don't have the ROM's is getting to you. Are you running RAM based HFS, for instance? chuq ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: VBL tasks Date: 12-MAR 04:54 MUGS Online To: <MAX%TAMLSR.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: VBL tasks and ADDQ instructions > If you place a task in the application heap and don't remove it before > quitting, the Vertical Retrace Manager will try to call the task anyway > and crash. In the 128K ROMs, Launch removes VBL tasks in the application heap -- in fact, anywhere above the system heap, including above BufPtr. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: Re: addq.w for popping arguments? Date: 12-MAR 04:55 MUGS Online To: Tom.Lane@zog.cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Re: addq.w for popping arguments? > When more than 8 bytes are to be popped, you have to use "adda #n,SP". Lea n(SP),SP is a little faster. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: Re: PROTECTING STATIC MEMORY Date: 12-MAR 04:55 MUGS Online To: GDCWOOD%CALSTATE.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: Re: PROTECTING STATIC MEMORY > Is it possible to protect the portion of RAM, kept active by the battery, > so that control panels changes cannot [a]ffect original settings. How about... an INIT that stores the startup contents of PRAM, and a ShutDown task (installed using the ShutDown trap present if System 4.0 or later is running) that restores the PRAM contents. Of course, any software-only technique loses if the Mac is powered off or reset without Shut Down. Install a sign on the machine that says "Please Shut Down before turning off"? ------------------------------ From: INTECO Subject: asynchron serial driver calls Date: 12-MAR 16:14 Programming I have big troubles using the asynchron I/O feature of calls to the serial driver! Does there exist a working example which is different from DumbTerm.Pas from TML. The problem is as follows: DumbTerm posts one readcall in the Event loop. So I added after the asynchronus call took place in the called routine a call to post another read. That is somehow recursive but the only way to keep up with the input stream of 1200 baud. The problem is that I have to control the incoming data and have to send back control chars, the display of the data itself takes longer than receiving the data. But the amount of data to receive is limited to 2kBytes. So I need some way to receive and check data in the background. If all data for a display unit is present I post an application event. The looping main program picks the event up in the main event loop and takes care of displaying the data. What is allowed to do in an asynchronus I/O call? I know what IM says but perhaps someone has application experience. Any sugestions? I would even replace the serial interupt driver if necessary. Uwe ------------------------------ From: BRECHER Subject: RE: asynchron serial driver calls (Re: Msg 18103) Date: 13-MAR 07:56 Programming The problem with asynchronous serial input is that your completion routine is called with interrupts disabled, so it doesn't have time to do very much. If the only control of the incoming data you have to do is to send XOFF/XON for management of the input buffer, then the serial driver can do that for you. If you have other things to do in real time in response to each incoming character you may have to write your own driver. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: laser spoolers (Re: Msg 18067) Date: 12-MAR 17:29 Network Digests To: jonathan@mitre-gateway.arpa (Jonathan Leblang) Subject: laser spoolers We've tried all three spoolers and prefer Think's LaserSpeed by far. I use it constantly (but downloadable fonts must be downloaded "permanently"). Ric Ford ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: Mac Plus and Hard disk powerdown (Re: Msg 18067) Date: 12-MAR 17:32 Network Digests To: Dan Stewart <STEWART_SYS%uta.edu@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Mac Plus and Hard disk powerdown. I leave my Mac (with an external fan) and hard disk running overnight while I'm in the apartment. I turn if off if I'm gone, because I've heard of Macs going up in smoke (flyback transformer?), and I worry about big AC power problems that could occur while I'm away and unable to turn it off. Ric Ford ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: Stresed Nodes Date: 12-MAR 20:37 Business Mac Interesting press release today from MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. on a new stress and vibration analysis program for the Mac. While very few of us might have use for the program itself, titled MSC/pal, I found their approach unusual. The program comes in three versions, a 500 node for Mac+ (req. 1M RAM) at $1495; a 300 node version to run on a Mac512KE at $995; & a sampler 25 node version at only $45. Since all three versions come with a 300 page manual, they are promoting the sampler as a teaching tool replacing a textbook. None of the program versions are copy-perverted. If you'd like more info you can write: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp., 815 Colorado Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90041 (213) 258-9111 Alf ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: More Press Releases... Date: 12-MAR 20:38 Business Mac Various Press Release Notes RE: Mac II & SE: CRICKET SOFTWARE: New versions of Graph & Draw available. Both take advantage of speed and color. New versions priced at $295 and $395, respectively, and current owners can upgrade at $100. LIGHTSPEED: Plans to ship a turnkey system of Mac II, 19" color monitor, color input scanner and software for a color desktop layout system, compatible with their high-end color design workstation based on Sun Microsystems hardware. No price given ;-). NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR: Memory expansion modules for the Mac II using one megabit DRAMs, consisting of a mother-daughter board, configurable as 4MB, 8MB, 12MB or 16MB, occupying a single slot. Full 32 bit native code addressing, to allow total memory capacity of 4 Gigabyte. 24 bit address mode also supported and RAM disk simulator and print spooler will be included. Shipping April '87. SIGMA DESIGNS: Laserview Display Screen has display of 1664 dots by 1200 lines, consists of adapter board and choice of 15" or 19" monitor, both landscape. Scan frequency 74.75 KHz, refresh rate 60H in non-interlace mode, bandwidth of 160 MHz. Alf ------------------------------ From: RCONGDON Subject: MacApp Developer's Association Newslette Date: 14-MAR 01:54 Programming Interesting info in the latest MacApp DA newsletter. MPW products shipped: 1100 Workshop, roughly 800 to 900 units of MPW C and MPW Pascal, and between 300 to 400 units of MacApp. Of course, this is for Beta software so this these figures should be going up now that 1.0 is shipping. Anyone have figures on how many copies of Lightspeed C and Pascal, TML Pascal, Turbo Pascal, etc. are out there? ------------------------------ From: NETMAN Subject: Mac SE first Impressions Date: 14-MAR 09:02 Hardware & Peripherals I am fortunate enough to have a loaner Mac SE with 20MB internal hard disk to check out for a couple of days. It does seem somewhat faster than my Plus but nothing quantifiable yet..(Ric will be doing benchmarks later) This sucker is a bit noisy though..I am used to the quiet of my FX-20 humming under my desk but this guy is alot louder (ie. louder than a HD-20SC if that gives you any reference points.) The new newboard (Apple Keyboard) is nice but why the avante-garde lettering of the letters on the keys? I feel like i have to sit sideways or tilt my head to see the letters right. My biggest concern thusfar is that I CANNOT connect my GCC FX-20 to the SE. Anyone got any ideas on this one. The SCSI disk is addr. 0 and my FX-20 is 5. If the FX-20 is powered on and connected to the SCSI port on the SE I get the old sad, frowning Mac with '00000001' and '0000000F' underneath. If the FX is not turned on, there is no problem. If I turn on the FX after I've powered up the SE I cannot access it. The Apple HD-20SC 'manager' application sees the drive at address 5 and can 'test' it okay but nothing beyond that. If I try to launch the FX manager application it says ...'searching for Hyperdrives' then crashes (la bomba) (Sorry, can't remember the ID...I think 01). Has anyone got any documentation that describes this problem. I assume that it is GCC's problem now unless I am doing something fundamentally wrong. Jonathan Oski "MacInTouch Newsletter" ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Mac SE first Impressions (Re: Msg 18173) Date: 15-MAR 02:16 Hardware & Peripherals Benchmarks are coming (initially, it looks 10-20% faster on our standard benchmarks, just as claimed); but first, the SCSI compatibility problems. Along with the HyperDrive FX/20, the Mac SE also chokes and won't boot with the DataFrame XP40 (Init 2.1), and the Rodime 45 Plus (external). The symptoms are the same as Jon described above, and I suspect they may be due to controller incompatibilities. This is an SE with the internal SCSI drive. An SE with 2 800K floppies may or may not have the same problem. Another problem with this set-up is disks, like the AST 4000 base unit, and the Sunol SCSI 245, which are set to SCSI ID 0 and can't be changed easily. They hang on boot, with the access light on, and you can't even get the light to go out many times. The LoDOWN disk (LD155) won't boot at all. It won't mount, although the SCSI address is set to other than 0. (So were the Rodime and XP40). Disks which *do* work are as follows: Peripheral Land PL172 (very fast) CMS S240 (also fast) Northern Telecom S261 (ditto) Mirror 172x Peak 20 Magic 20 (you must find the location and add jumpers inside) Jasmine Direct Drive 80 (no problem, also speedy) Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Disk Repairs Date: 14-MAR 11:34 Network Digests To: daveg@dartvax.UUCP (Dave Green) Subject: Disk Repairs Dave, You should also check out the Berkeley Macintosh User's Group disk-fixing tools. They are useful and not duplicated elsewhere. They also have published extensive docuementation on disk recovery. In addition, Mac Zap Recover HFS seems to be a very powerful tool, well worth buying. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: TSTEIN Subject: LW FONTS & FONDS Date: 14-MAR 18:10 Creative Pursuits I need some help with FONDs and FONTs and the LaserWriter. I would like to change the font the LW uses when I specify Courier in my document. I have the new font coded, and I will download it to the LW under the name, say, NewCourier. Then, when I specify Courier in my document, I want the LW to use NewCourier. For Courier bold and italic I still want the old LW fonts: CourierBold and CourierItalic. What do I change on the Mac side? Can I modify the FOND tables (using something like FEDIT or RESEDIT, or even writing simple programs if necessary) somehow so that the LW picks another font? Where exactly is the correspondance between Mac font and LW font set up? Tim Stein ------------------------------ From: PEABO Subject: Question about Mac SE overseas Date: 14-MAR 18:13 Hardware & Peripherals I received the following inquiry by MAIL: From: BOS1B::HVNZ 14-MAR-1987 02:58 To: PEABO Subj: 230V MAC I HAVE JUST JOINED DELPHI AND ICONTACT FROM NEW ZEALAND. I HAVE BEEN USING A MAC 512K E BUT WANT TO GET A MAC SE 20 CPU FROM THE STATES. I AM ORIGNALY FROM S. CALIF. AND CAN GET ONE FROM THERE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO TELL ME IF THE DOMESTIC MODELS CAN BE SWITCHED TO 230 V.A.C. I'VE BEEN PLAYING TELEPHONE TAG WITH THE STATES AND IT'S STARTING TO COST A LOT OF KIWI DOLLARS. I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME. I CAN BE CONTACTED THROUGH DELPHI MAIL. THANK YOU, JOHN LIPKE USERNAME HVNZ ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: RE: Question about Mac SE overseas (Re: Msg 18191) Date: 14-MAR 19:08 Hardware & Peripherals According to releases from Apple, both the Mac SE and Mac II feature a "universal power supply that operates with any voltage". I bel;ieve I read that this is done via switches on the back of the unit, but I don't have that particular source handy. The above quote is from the press releases on both the Mac SE and Mac II. Alf ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: RE: Question about Mac SE overseas (Re: Msg 18195) Date: 15-MAR 01:02 Hardware & Peripherals I opened the sucker up. Inside is a nice power supply in a steel box marked "Sony," but apparently manufactured by another Japanese company. Yet another sticker on it indicates that it will operate at 50 or 60 Hz. and up to 240 V. Don't trust my guess, but it seems like this would allow you to simply plug into a European socket (with adaptor plugs), and start "cooking" (so to speak). Ric ------------------------------ From: JOSEF Subject: bootable 4.0 Date: 14-MAR 19:09 Business Mac I seem to be unable to create a bootable System 4.0 disk by copying the System Folder from a know working bootable System disk to a freshly intialized disk. Using the new 'Write Boot Blocks' utility doesn't help. The only thing that seems to work is doing a full disk copy. No big deal but somewhat annoying. Anyone else have this problem? Joe ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER Subject: MacHack '87 Date: 14-MAR 19:13 Programming (Press Release) MacHack '87 - The Second Annual Macintosh Developers' Conference The response to MacHack '86 was overwhelmingly positive. Therefore, the Univ. of Michigan, in combination with Apple Computer Inc., Broadacre Network, and the MacTechnics Group, are pleased to announce MacHack '87. It will take place on Jun 10, 11, and 12, 1987 at the Holiday Inn West in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The theme for this year is Communication, Decentralization, and Shared Information. Topics that will be covered include: Developmental Tools; Artificial Intell.; Courseware development; Communications - AppleTalk, serial port communications; Multi-User applications; Communication to mainframes; Q&A - Future Apple directions (possibly limited to Certified Developers); ROM 64 vs 128 vs 256 vs ? - making applications work on all of them; Database products and technologies; Business aspects of software development, marketing & support. The conference will include multi-tracked conference sessions, a 24-hour machine room, a banquet, a vendor exhibit area, and a vendor forum room for detailed product demonstrations. Attendance will be limited. A two-day intensive workshop covering the essentials of Mac programming will be held in the same hotel June 8 & 9. The organizers welcome suggestions on any of the above. You may contact: Aimee Moran, Conference Manager, Expotech Inc., 1264 Bedford Road, Grosse Pointe Park, MI 48230 for more info, or respond via network address: Aimee_Moran@um.cc.umich.edu (DisClaimer: I don't claim to know anything about dis. Alf) ------------------------------ From: MOUSE1 Subject: Word 3.0 bugs Date: 14-MAR 21:38 SIG Business Another complaint on Word. When I tried to convert a document written in columns from the old Word -- guess what? Kaflooy! Most of the formatting was lost, headers were lost in many cases, and plain text came up underlined when only headers were underline d originally! Lots of fun trying to fix that one. I finally gave up, called MS and was told there was probably something wrong with my convert program (which, by the way, they do *not* tell you how to do in the manual!) They told me to send in an zerox of my document, a disk with the document as it now appears and they would fix it. All I can say, is Thank God, I finished it before changing to the update --formatting in col. is icky to say the least. Formatting with Word is *still* painful. Judy ------------------------------ From: LOGICHACK Subject: Mac II monitor questions Date: 14-MAR 21:54 Hardware & Peripherals Does anyone know if the Mac II video card/monitor combination support csCode 11 in the video device driver? This call allows a program to set things like contrast and brightness which are normally located on knobs and dials of convention monitors. Seems like a pretty nifty feature to me... In a similar vein, anyone know if these monitors power down automatically along with the Mac? Seems to me if the ShutDown command actually shuts the machine off, then it only makes sense to power down the monitor at the same time. Just curious and impatient... Paul :) ------------------------------ From: DSACHS Subject: RE: Mulitple LW copies with MS Word 3.0 Date: 14-MAR 22:13 Network Digests Tell Eric Mazur that he can get multiple LaserWriter copies printed quickly by holding down the shift key, while selecting the PRINT command with the mouse. The The LaserWronger's own dialog box will appear. Enter the number of copies desired, and click OK. Then select Print (without the shift key) and request 1 copy. The proper number of copies will then print, with all copies of each page together. After this select Print with the shift key again and set the number of copies to 1. ------------------------------ From: INC Subject: 1000 miles... Date: 15-MAR 01:16 Network Digests Jeff... can this 'quirk' in the game be reported to: jayr@well.UUCP (Jay Roth) who I guess wrote it... When the game runs out of cards, it doesn't seem to realize it and just sits there unless the player can win. So I doesn't officially 'hang' but can't do anything from there except a total restart of the game. thanks. josh ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH Subject: LoDOWN LD155 Date: 15-MAR 02:08 Hardware & Peripherals What would you think of a disk that bombs under System 3.2, apparently due to the use of caching in the disk driver and consequent collisions with Apple's cache; which requires three iterations of a Mount utility to come online at all, which can't be booted directly, and which doesn't work at all with the Mac SE? It's called the LoDOWN LD-155. Ric ------------------------------ From: AESOP Subject: RE: Re: PROTECTING STATIC MEMORY (Re: Msg 18095) Date: 15-MAR 06:13 MUGS Online OR, How about removing the Control Panel from the System file running on the Mac? There might be some little wires or PC traces you could cut to write-protect Parameter Ram, but then again there are a lot of other things one can cut with a razor blade, aren't there? Laird ------------------------------ End of Delphi Mac Digest ************************