[net.sf-lovers] what do _you_ think of sf?

oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicious Oyster) (05/23/85)

In article <14580@watmath.UUCP> jagardner@watmath.UUCP (Jim Gardner) writes:
>[...]
>
>Because mundane literature receives more attention and respect than genre
>literature...
>I have read that she has had to put up with a lot of
>criticism from the British writing establishment -- SF is not respectable
>literature, even though her SF novels have the same quality of prose
>and thought as all her other work.

   Agreed.  Another case in point:  a few (well... many) years ago I 
took a course in Comparative Literature here at the university entitled
"Fantasy and Science Fiction."  I remember the professor commenting that
she had to put up with a lot of flack from her peers for stooping to such
dizzying depths.  (And she didn't even assign any Heinlein!) 

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thomas@utah-gr.UUCP (Spencer W. Thomas) (05/26/85)

There was an interesting "editorial" in the book review column of this
month's Asimov's SF (don't have it here, so I don't know if it is June,
July, Aug, or Sept :-).  Recommended reading if you are interested in a
comparison between "mainstream" and "genre" literature.

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julian@osu-eddie.UUCP (Julian Gomez) (05/30/85)

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Remember they said DH Lawrence (for example) wrote "garbage" and
"trash" when his spicier works first came out.
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michaelk@azure.UUCP (Michael Kersenbrock) (05/30/85)

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There are at least several decent SF books availiable.
These include a Brave New World, "1984", Farenheit 451, and the like.

More may come to mind with a bit of thought.

Does "Rearden Metal" (static power, etc) allow "Atlas Shrugged" to count
as SF?  Probably not, but then again....


Mike Kersenbrock
Tektronix Microcomputer Development Products
Aloha, Oregon

myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Latitudinarian Lobster) (06/02/85)

> 
> There are at least several decent SF books availiable.
> These include a Brave New World, "1984", Farenheit 451, and the like.
> 

My, fond of anti-utopias, aren't we?  I, for one, would hesitate to classify
any of these as SF.  Give me A.C. Clark any day.

Jeff M.

brust@hyper.UUCP (Steven Brust) (06/03/85)

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> Remember they said DH Lawrence (for example) wrote "garbage" and
> "trash" when his spicier works first came out.
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> 	Julian "a tribble took it" Gomez
> 	The Ohio State University
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Er, DH Lawrence is a her.  I think her works, spicier and
otherwise, aren't really very good.  She insists on explaining
what her characters are like, rather than showing it, and
I've never been able to identify with any of them.
		-- SKZB

leiby@masscomp.UUCP (Mike Leibensperger) (06/05/85)

In article <208@hyper.UUCP> brust@hyper.UUCP (Steven Brust) writes:
> Er, DH Lawrence is a her.  I think her works, spicier and
> otherwise, aren't really very good.  She insists on explaining
> what her characters are like, rather than showing it, and
> I've never been able to identify with any of them.

You must have your D.H.'s confused.  The D.H. Lawrence to whom
Julian refers is David H. Lawrence, an English author of the
Modern period (I think that's what it's called-- been a long time
since English Lit. 305) whose primary theme is redemption through
sensuality.  His works are mostly set in the coal producing areas
of England, near Nottingham and Newcastle.

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clarise@petfe.UUCP (Clarise Samuels) (06/05/85)

D(avid) H(erbert) Lawrence, English novelist, 1885-1930, is not a her.

julian@osu-eddie.UUCP (Julian Gomez) (06/10/85)

> > Remember they said DH Lawrence (for example) wrote "garbage" and
> > "trash" when his spicier works first came out.
> 
> Er, DH Lawrence is a her.  I think her works, spicier and
> otherwise, aren't really very good.  She insists on explaining
> ...

David Herbert Lawrence (1885-1930)
The son of a coal miner, ...
See, for example,
"The Random House Encyclopedia", New Revised Edition p.2360
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