[net.micro.atari8] 256k Upgrade/DOS 2.5 Modification

wrd@tekigm2.UUCP (Bill Dippert) (04/01/86)

Well I did it, I went out and bought two of the RAMBO XL 256k upgrade
kits.  (My last posting called them the ??? brand as I forgot who they
were.)  RAMBO XL is put out by ICD, Inc. who also puts out SpartaDOS,
US Doubler, etc.  I chose them over the original BYTE kluge, the CDY
upgrade or the Newman upgrade only due to the ability to use them to
upgrade my old faithful 1200XL.  (Soon to be renamed the 1200XE, likewise
I will rename the 800XL to 800XE.)  I still do not like SpartaDOS and in
fact since it does not come with the kit, I will for now use Atari DOS
2.5.  RAMDOS XL will allow Atariwriter +, BASIC XE and other XE type
programs to see 130k RAM.  Until DOS 2.5m [2.6] comes out, I will have 
130k unuseable RAM.  Since RAMBO XL is fairly new, I will post any 
problems that I encounter when installing it.  The instructions that come 
with it are quite clear both for the 1200XL and for the 800XL.  They seem 
to have thought of everything including which ANTIC chip you have.  Is 
there anyone out there who has already installed RAMBO XL?  I do not know 
if the 130XE version of SynCalc will work -- the instructions only say that 
SynFile+ was checked.  PaperClip is also shown as working -- including the 
ability to see all 260k RAM.  Later....
--Bill--
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DYOUNG@USC-ISID.ARPA (C. David Young) (04/04/86)

I would like to make a couple of points of general interest. First, CDY does
not manufacture its own 256K upgrade. It buys them from Newell and resells
them like any distributor.

Second, I have heard from people about at least 2 problems with the RAMBO
256K upgrade. First, it does not support ANTIC at all. If you put your
screen memory down in the bank area and flip banks your screen goes
away. The Newell version has logic to keep ANTIC in main memory even
when the CPU is switching banks and it has a switch option to allow
ANTIC to follow banked memory. As an example as to why this is important,
I am in the process of converting AtariWriter Plus to work 80 columns.
The only room left to put the 80 column screen was in one of the banks.
This conversion has no chance of working with the Rambo board. The second
problem with the Rambo board is that it does not protect main memory
when banking is occurring. With this board it is possible, for example, to
access zero page or the stack via one of the (illegal) banks in the
$4000-$7FFF range. With the Newell board this dangerous situation is not
possible.

On the positive side, it is nice that the Rambo board will install in a
1200XL. Newell will only do this in house.

David Young
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