[net.micro.atari8] Using Atari's As Printer Buffers

wrd@tekigm2.UUCP (Bill Dippert) (07/20/86)

Due to our editor being out at the moment, I cannot send email, just news.
At any rate, I do not understand your message to me.  I am not into software
to any great extent and did not intend to write any software, in fact was
not aware that it would take software.  In my Legend 1380 printer there
exists a 4k p.b. and I thought that somehow (thru the joystick ports?) the
1200XL could be made to look like another buffer.  To make a null modem
using the standard Atari daisy chain cables involves what pins?  

In the system that I had in mind, I would be using either two or three 1050
dd's, an 850, an Hayes compatible modem, and the Legend 1380 printer.  However,
I have several other setups that I might also want to use it on.  The other
setup would be either an 800XLE or 1200XLE with one or two 1050 dd's, an 1027
printer and a 1030 modem.  I have seen printer buffers available that merely
connect in and I though that with appropriate cabling something similar could
be done with a spare 1200XL unit.  

If anyone else has any ideas, let's open up the discussion on the net.

Thanks in advance,
--Bill--

cbbrowne@watnot.UUCP (Christopher Browne) (07/25/86)

> Due to our editor being out at the moment, I cannot send email, just news.
> At any rate, I do not understand your message to me.  I am not into software
> to any great extent and did not intend to write any software, in fact was
> not aware that it would take software.  In my Legend 1380 printer there
> exists a 4k p.b. and I thought that somehow (thru the joystick ports?) the
> 1200XL could be made to look like another buffer.  To make a null modem
> using the standard Atari daisy chain cables involves what pins?  
> 
> In the system that I had in mind, I would be using either two or three 1050
> dd's, an 850, an Hayes compatible modem, and the Legend 1380 printer.  However,
> I have several other setups that I might also want to use it on.  The other
> setup would be either an 800XLE or 1200XLE with one or two 1050 dd's, an 1027
> printer and a 1030 modem.  I have seen printer buffers available that merely
> connect in and I though that with appropriate cabling something similar could
> be done with a spare 1200XL unit.  
> 
> If anyone else has any ideas, let's open up the discussion on the net.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> --Bill--
This is something which I have looked at, and discovered that it is certainly
possible, although somewhat complex (as far as hardware is concerned).  Note 
that I am not a hardware person - for someone into hardware hacking, the job
would be trivial.

Using joystick ports is the cheapest way of doing things - however - it may not
be possible on the 1200.  I have used hardware on an 800XL to impliment printer
hookup through the joysticks.  A similar setup, with similar software, routing 
output to another computer would not be difficult.  Unfortunately, the interface
that I built (it was in an ANALOG of several years ago) would only output 7 bits
rather than the standard 8 bits that current dot matrix printers support.  It 
meant that I could output listings and other text, BUT, I could not output any
graphics.  That has not been a hardship to me, but could be for some.  Perhaps
this interface has some outputs that it uses that are necessary for proper
compatibility with the printer (i.e. - the printer NEEDS certain signals) which
would not be necessary in communicating with another Atari.

There is another difficulty (which I gather would not affect you, but would 
affect others, including myself).  One needs suitable software in both computers
in order to operate this buffer.  You seem to have enough drives to make it 
almost convenient to have one hooked up to the 'Buffer' computer.  In my case, I
have one drive, which makes it quite inconvenient to load software into both 
computers.  This could be remedied by using a cartridge ($ :-) ), but this 
complicates matters quite a bit.

Are there any hardware experts who can tell us if going through joystick ports
is practical?  I could probably find out by consulting my library, however,
I do not have access to it at this time (being at school 480 km from home, 300
miles to the non SI people here).  I will be interested to hear any information
on the idea of using an old computer as a buffer.

                                       Christopher Browne
                                       University of Waterloo